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The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2024, 12:59:13 PM
People are "upset about this" because a lot of them do not like Lebron James for a plethora of reasons.  They believe this has nothing to do with Bronny, but instead is all about Lebron.   If I'm not mistaken he has been talking about playing with his son in the NBA for the past 5 years.  It's also worth noting that  Bronny being a McD AA may have had something to do with Lebron and not his basketball skills.

In my opinion, people are also "upset" because Lebron and the media are trying to insult their intelligence.   People are sick of being hoodwinked in general Pakuni, and this doesn't help. If the Lakers, Lebron , and sycophants  were just straight with the public no one would give a S.   Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it's not remotely "insane" that this bothers some people. 

A lot of people also really like Lebron. If it didn't drive eyeballs, ESPN wouldn't be so into it.

If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. It's not hard.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

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MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 23, 2024, 01:02:50 PM
A lot of people also really like Lebron. If it didn't drive eyeballs, ESPN wouldn't be so into it.

If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. It's not hard.

And if it bothers you that they pay attention to it and don't like it?  Stop lecturing people.  Guess what?  If people are annoyed, or "want to" be annoyed, that's their prerogative.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on October 23, 2024, 12:42:12 PM
It's insane the number and loudness of people who are legitimately upset about this. Why? It's meaningless. It's getting bothered for the sake of getting bothered.
It's akin to people getting mad every time the camera shows Taylor Swift during a Chiefs game. Different subject, same energy.
I know I shouldn't be in the business of judging what people should and should not  be upset about, but if this is something you're upset about, you probably are too online.

There are some people who are legit enraged about this.  And unless they are doing it for clicks or engagement...they need to touch grass.  If its having any impact on your daily life, thats just textbook chronically online behavior.

But for discussion purposes here or amongst friends in passing, I think the the dumbest part of the narrative is the pseudo-gaslighting.  Either "if you can't think this is super cool/special, you're just a hater who is bitter about everything."  You don't have to even be a Lebron hater to think its a bit overwrought in its spectacle. 

But further, the number of unabashed Lebron fanboys (people like Nick Wright and others) who are trying to pretend this is an pure meritocracy and you can't know what Bronny is gonna be, SO MUCH POTENTIAL HERE DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD HE WORKS?! like he'd really be getting this same chance in Philadelphia as Brian Jones, Jr.  Thats just stupid and worthy of ridicule, completely detached from the actual performance or stat line of Bronny.  My college roommate was a fanatical UF football fan and venerated Tebow.  He used to tell any of us listening how Tebow was gonna be an All Pro level QB because "he wanted it so bad" and "he will just outwork everyone else" to the point where we were like "all of us are ambivalent about Tebow but almost want him to fizzle so you shut up.

But ideally, the pomp happened last night, he becomes the 12th man, and we can just enjoy the legitimate petty NBA drama that arrives by Christmas every year.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: JWags85 on October 23, 2024, 02:10:35 PM
There are some people who are legit enraged about this.  And unless they are doing it for clicks or engagement...they need to smoke some grass.

FIFY

tower912

A player in the GOAT discussion pulled some strings in order to play NBA games with his son.    History was made.   Cool.   Now, on to the rest of the season.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Yeah, we need to talk about the NBA already coming after Embiid and the Sixers and how funny that is
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MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on October 23, 2024, 04:41:29 PM
A player in the GOAT discussion pulled some strings in order to play NBA games with his son.    History was made.   Cool.   Now, on to the rest of the season.

I agree about focusing on  the season but it's perfectly fine for people not to think it's cool.

MuggsyB

No Jojo or Paul George?  Bucks by 17?

MuggsyB

Just a dumb reach there by Giannis.

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2024, 06:39:47 PM
I agree about focusing on  the season but it's perfectly fine for people not to think it's cool.

Also, it's ok for people to think it is a BS story and not worthy of the hype. Bronny is not an NBA caliber player. Saying history was made, suggests it was a legit father/son playing together.

What occurred really isn't different than the Warriors signing Dell Curry to a bench role, and having Steph and him sign in to the game together in a blowout. That would be stupid, and not history, which is why the Warriors and the Curry's would never do it.

In the end, I personally don't care. To me it reflects poorly on LeBron who forces all this hype, and it is unfair to Bronny who ends up taking on haters, because his dad wanted a publicity shoot.

The Sultan

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2024, 08:09:16 PM
Also, it's ok for people to think it is a BS story and not worthy of the hype. Bronny is not an NBA caliber player. Saying history was made, suggests it was a legit father/son playing together.

What occurred really isn't different than the Warriors signing Dell Curry to a bench role, and having Steph and him sign in to the game together in a blowout. That would be stupid, and not history, which is why the Warriors and the Curry's would never do it.

That's really not a good comparison at all.  Dell Curry retired in 2002 when Steph was 14 years old.  Him coming out of retirement 8 years later is a lot different than Bronny being a G-League level player who checked into an NBA game with his dad.

Do people not remember what a wash-out Ken Griffey, Sr. was when he played for the Mariners?   
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2024, 08:09:16 PM
Also, it's ok for people to think it is a BS story and not worthy of the hype. Bronny is not an NBA caliber player. Saying history was made, suggests it was a legit father/son playing together.

What occurred really isn't different than the Warriors signing Dell Curry to a bench role, and having Steph and him sign in to the game together in a blowout. That would be stupid, and not history, which is why the Warriors and the Curry's would never do it.

In the end, I personally don't care. To me it reflects poorly on LeBron who forces all this hype, and it is unfair to Bronny who ends up taking on haters, because his dad wanted a publicity shoot.

I couldn't agree more.  When I went to work this morning I heard someone on the radio talking about "history being made".  He then proceeded to spew that Archie Manning was just too old to play on the same team as his kids.....as if Peyton and Eli were just fringe NFL players. 

tower912

Whether you like it or not, it was sports history. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 23, 2024, 08:24:28 PM
That's really not a good comparison at all.  Dell Curry retired in 2002 when Steph was 14 years old.  Him coming out of retirement 8 years later is a lot different than Bronny being a G-League level player who checked into an NBA game with his dad.

Do people not remember what a wash-out Ken Griffey, Sr. was when he played for the Mariners?

In all seriousness how many guys that are 6'2 or shorter are on an NBA roster with Bronny's skill set?  Now the kid is only 20.  He has time to get way better and perhaps make an NBA team but we're not talking about someone with a crazy upside.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 23, 2024, 08:30:44 PM
In all seriousness how many guys that are 6'2 or shorter are on an NBA roster with Bronny's skill set?  Now the kid is only 20.  He has time to get way better and perhaps make an NBA team but we're not talking about someone with a crazy upside.

He's way better than a 45 year old Dell Curry would have been.  Ole Dell was well over the hill at the end of his career as it was.

It was just a silly comparison.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 23, 2024, 08:44:31 PM
He's way better than a 45 year old Dell Curry would have been.  Ole Dell was well over the hill at the end of his career as it was.

It was just a silly comparison.

Bucks fans don't really have to look too far for a comparison. It's basically like the Bucks having Thanasis the last few years. At the end of the day, the last player on an NBA bench isn't too big of a deal. If it keeps the best player happy, that's probably worth it.

JWags85

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 23, 2024, 09:04:27 PM
Bucks fans don't really have to look too far for a comparison. It's basically like the Bucks having Thanasis the last few years. At the end of the day, the last player on an NBA bench isn't too big of a deal. If it keeps the best player happy, that's probably worth it.

I hate this comparison though.  Thanasis was drafted by a completely different NBA team and played NBA minutes for the Knicks before Giannis even made an All Star team.  And in the seasons before he came back to the Bucks, Thanasis was an All Star on the best team in Greece on back to back title teams.  He's been a Buck to keep Giannis happy, of course, but he isn't/wasn't solely some Make a Wish case favor

forgetful

Quote from: cheebs09 on October 23, 2024, 09:04:27 PM
Bucks fans don't really have to look too far for a comparison. It's basically like the Bucks having Thanasis the last few years. At the end of the day, the last player on an NBA bench isn't too big of a deal. If it keeps the best player happy, that's probably worth it.

I think almost everyone generally agrees with that (even though as Wags points out Thanasis was a legit prospect). People get annoyed by the media making a big deal about this when it's just an orchestrated charade for publicity.

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 23, 2024, 08:44:31 PM
He's way better than a 45 year old Dell Curry would have been.  Ole Dell was well over the hill at the end of his career as it was.

It was just a silly comparison.

It's not, both would have been players that shouldn't be in the NBA and that would only be in the NBA for publicity, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Also, Ole Dell at the end of his career was still significantly better than Bronny. Dell even in his old age still had a marketable skill, shooting. Bronny doesn't have any NBA level skills.

You are just disagreeing to be disagreeable.

Jockey

Outrage as performance art.

MuggsyB

What exactly is "The Wall" at Intuit dome?  Just a section with one exit and staircase? 

MuggsyB

Quote from: forgetful on October 23, 2024, 09:34:19 PM
I think almost everyone generally agrees with that (even though as Wags points out Thanasis was a legit prospect). People get annoyed by the media making a big deal about this when it's just an orchestrated charade for publicity.

It's not, both would have been players that shouldn't be in the NBA and that would only be in the NBA for publicity, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Also, Ole Dell at the end of his career was still significantly better than Bronny. Dell even in his old age still had a marketable skill, shooting. Bronny doesn't have any NBA level skills.

You are just disagreeing to be disagreeable.
..

Speaking of Dell, Steph's favorite player growing up was Muggsy.   :)

MuggsyB

Huge game for LeMelo.  34, 11, and 8.

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