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WhiteTrash

Quote from: PointWarrior on December 11, 2024, 11:25:54 AM"Wisconsin made the first two Big Ten Championship games in a division that featured Ohio State and Penn State." 

Yes, and OSU and PU were down those years.  And in 2011, OSU was 7-6.  In 2012, OSU was 12-0 but ineligible for the championship game (Wisconsin was 8-6, 4-4 in conference).

"Indiana almost did so this very year."  - Highly fluke / rare unbalanced schedule of IU, and they will also likely be in the bottom 8 each year.  Will not repeat after getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs.


Taking into account the fact I hate absolute statements and to somewhat concede to Hippie argument, anything is possible (i.e. Loyola in the Final 4). Also, my position was never intended to make a blanket statement UW or UofI or Miss will never win, but to assert that practically speaking, the chances of those programs winning a conference have been diminished to the point where they are realistically playing for 4th (or there abouts) most every year. The chances of OSU, PSU, Michigan having down years is far greater than OSU, PSU, Mich, USC and Oregon all having down years.

Also, I hear, but don't know enough to comment on, that schools like UW and Illinois don't have the NIL backing to compete with the elite programs.


WhiteTrash

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 11, 2024, 12:47:43 PMAppears Beichick to UNC is happening.  Fascinating
If I was a UNC fan, I'm not sure I'm very excited.

tower912

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 11, 2024, 01:44:47 PMIf I was a UNC fan, I'm not sure I'm very excited.
Can you imagine if he brings along Matt Patricia?

I agree with you.  I don't see the fit.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Herman Cain

Excellent move for Heels Football . Makes them relevant overnight .
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 11, 2024, 06:17:02 PMExcellent move for Heels Football . Makes them relevant overnight .

It's a terrible idea and won't make them relevant.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

tower912

Trying to picture the hoodie recruiting, dealing with NIL, and the portal.   

Failing miserably.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 11, 2024, 06:24:02 PMIt's a terrible idea and won't make them relevant.

It makes sense to Herm, so you know it's a disaster
Gard just gets it done

RJax55

Quote from: tower912 on December 11, 2024, 06:35:31 PMTrying to picture the hoodie recruiting, dealing with NIL, and the portal.   

Failing miserably.

To add, if part of the deal is to make Stephen the head coach in waiting, it makes the hire even worse.

Like I said, I get this from Bill's perspective. I have no idea why UNC thinks this is a good idea.


The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: RJax55 on December 11, 2024, 06:50:28 PMTo add, if part of the deal is to make Stephen the head coach in waiting, it makes the hire even worse.

Like I said, I get this from Bill's perspective. I have no idea why UNC thinks this is a good idea.


Michael Lombardi, who at best has had a checkered history as a personnel executive, is going to be his GM. His only college experience is with UNLV when Randall Cunningham played there.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 11, 2024, 06:53:32 PMMichael Lombardi, who at best has had a checkered history as a personnel executive, is going to be his GM. His only college experience is with UNLV when Randall Cunningham played there.
Maybe he'll get Bill Parcells to come in to rap with the freshman players on Satuday nights?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on December 11, 2024, 06:59:19 PMMaybe he'll get Bill Parcells to come in to rap with the freshman players on Satuday nights?

At this point, would you be surprised?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on December 11, 2024, 07:00:09 PMAt this point, would you be surprised?
Nope.

I will also not be surprised when UNC is looking for a new coach a year from now.

cheebs09

Based on his girlfriend, he does seem to be solidly recruiting those in their 20s.

Jockey

Quote from: RJax55 on December 11, 2024, 06:50:28 PMTo add, if part of the deal is to make Stephen the head coach in waiting, it makes the hire even worse.

Like I said, I get this from Bill's perspective. I have no idea why UNC thinks this is a good idea.



IMO, Having his son become head coach is the point.

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