2024-25 NBA Thread

[The Sultan]

Make a list of worst lists.

1. Muggsy Bogues

[The Sultan]

Magic
Jordan
Lebron
Duncan
KAJ

Wilt
Malone  Garnett
Oscar  Steph
Kobe

Wilt, Shaq, Hakeem or Russell. Can't go wrong with any coming off the bench.

[Hards Alumni]

Wilt, Shaq, Hakeem or Russell. Can't go wrong with any coming off the bench.

Personally, I'm keeping Malone.  I think he's probably the most underrated player of the 90s.  Never got the respect he deserves.  Incredible amount of win shares, 4th all time VORP and still third all time in scoring.  No disrespect to Garnett either, who was an all timer as well.  Also, it's extremely close.

I'd be fine with Steph over the Big O.  Both are transcendent players and Steph played against better competitions.

[The Sultan]

Personally, I'm keeping Malone.  I think he's probably the most underrated player of the 90s.  Never got the respect he deserves.  Incredible amount of win shares, 4th all time VORP and still third all time in scoring.  No disrespect to Garnett either, who was an all timer as well.  Also, it's extremely close.

I'd be fine with Steph over the Big O.  Both are transcendent players and Steph played against better competitions.

I just think Steph can get on one of those rolls, like in the Olympics last year, were you just know he's going to hit shots. And you have more than enough ball handling on that team with Magic, Jordan and Kobe.

And I get it with Malone over Garnett. I just think Garnett would be a better rim runner with the offense on that team.

[GB Warrior]

Personally, I'm keeping Malone.  I think he's probably the most underrated player of the 90s.  Never got the respect he deserves.  Incredible amount of win shares, 4th all time VORP and still third all time in scoring.  No disrespect to Garnett either, who was an all timer as well.  Also, it's extremely close.

I'd be fine with Steph over the Big O.  Both are transcendent players and Steph played against better competitions.

Malone prefers to play a minor role

[Hards Alumni]

Malone prefers to play a minor role

If we're going to go down the hole of the guys on this list and their problems Karl wouldn't be alone.

[JWags85]

If we're going to go down the hole of the guys on this list and their problems Karl wouldn't be alone.

Yes, but nobody else on this list knocked up a 12 year old...

[Uncle Rico]

Yes, but nobody else on this list knocked up a 12 year old...

As an evangelical Christian, I never understood why this was a problem

[Hards Alumni]

Yes, but nobody else on this list knocked up a 12 year old...

That we know of

[Shaka Shart]

If we're going to go down the hole of the guys on this list and their problems Karl wouldn't be alone.

He may have impregnated a 13 year old when 20, denied paternity of multiple children he later admitted to after they were raised, and harassed Vanessa Bryant (whose late husband is also a very bad person who is sportswashed to an insane degree); but at least he is not woke and a man of god.

[Billy Hoyle]

If we're going to go down the hole of the guys on this list and their problems Karl wouldn't be alone.

but we can't mention Kobe. He's a "girl dad" so we must overlook his back door shenanigans.

[GB Warrior]

Whataboutism about pedophilia is a choice one could make

[Shaka Shart]

but we can't mention Kobe. He's a "girl dad" so we must overlook his back door shenanigans.

Overrated clutchness too. His PR team is unmatched

[Hards Alumni]

Whataboutism about pedophilia is a choice one could make

Nah, I'm not suggesting we ignore Karl's crimes, just not single him out when there are plenty of guys who shoot hoops well that have done real bad stuff as well.

[Jockey]

If Durant ain't #1, then this is a fake poll.

[Shaka Shart]

Nah, I'm not suggesting we ignore Karl's crimes, just not single him out when there are plenty of guys who shoot hoops well that have done real bad stuff as well.

Like Kareem speaking out against post 9/11 Islamophobia

[Hards Alumni]

Like Kareem speaking out against post 9/11 Islamophobia

[Shaka Shart]

I bet Yoda had a mean no look pass

[Billy Hoyle]

Nah, I'm not suggesting we ignore Karl's crimes, just not single him out when there are plenty of guys who shoot hoops well that have done real bad stuff as well.

I see your point, but the list of crimes worse than pedophilia is a very, very short one.

[Hards Alumni]

I see your point, but the list of crimes worse than pedophilia is a very, very short one.

I don't disagree.  Forcible rape is also kinda bad, no?

[GB Warrior]

I don't disagree.  Forcible rape is also kinda bad, no?

Kobe had a firey passion for his family

[The Sultan]

Kobe had a firey passion for his family

Especially when in a helicopter.

[Hards Alumni]

[wadesworld]

If Durant ain't #1, then this is a fake poll.

Despite 2 Finals MVPs, the guy can't lead a team to a title.

Unlike Jimmy Butler, who joined the same team KD joined and has 0 titles to his name.  Now that guy can lead a team to a title.

[Uncle Rico]

Despite 2 Finals MVPs, the guy can't lead a team to a title.

Unlike Jimmy Butler, who joined the same team KD joined and has 0 titles to his name.  Now that guy can lead a team to a title.

Jimmy is wildly overrated