2024-25 NBA Thread

[Uncle Rico]

Apparently Jay Williams stated that "cancel culture" is the reason an American hasn't won the NBA MVP award in some time.  Are he and SAS trying to one up each other in idiotic statements?  Smh. 

He's right and it needs to end

[ATL MU Warrior]

He's right and it needs to end

The government needs to do the right thing and ban foreign players.

[MuggsyB]

He's right and it needs to end

Flagg in 5 yrs?

[MuggsyB]

Ant with a quick 12..  Maybe he read the thread?

[MuggsyB]

Wow. Minny up 31 at the half.

[GB Warrior]

Apparently Jay Williams stated that "cancel culture" is the reason an American hasn't won the NBA MVP award in some time.  Are he and SAS trying to one up each other in idiotic statements?  Smh. 

They're running

[MuggsyB]

They're running

From what?  Who's chasing them?

[MuggsyB]

Who will the Suns hire?  Mike Malone?

I'm also wondering what makes Brian Gregory qualified to be an NBA GM?

[tower912]

Years of college coaching.  Working with Ishbia at MSU.  Time in the Suns front office prior to being promoted.  Probably has a strong PowerPoint game.

Muggsy, you continually fall onto the trap of assuming you can go to your local Costco and find  a better coach, a better GM, a 7 ft PG who attacks the paint with aggression and shoots 45% from 3.

[MuggsyB]

Years of college coaching.  Working with Ishbia at MSU.  Time in the Suns front office prior to being promoted.  Probably has a strong PowerPoint game.

Muggsy, you continually fall onto the trap of assuming you can go to your local Costco and find  a better coach, a better GM, a 7 ft PG who attacks the paint with aggression and shoots 45% from 3.

These aren't parallel arguments.  Gregory doesn't exactly jump off the page as a GM.  Sounds like he's just a buddy of Ishbia.  One day there will be a 7 foot power PG with Curry like skills.   

[Uncle Rico]

The government needs to do the right thing and ban foreign players.

Honestly, it needs to happen.  Basketball was invented by an American and our sport has been overrun by Europeans who don't buy Ford Mustangs

[tower912]

They are.  Gregory is a basketball lifer.  He is in the right place in the right time and is friendly with the owner.  I don't know if he will succeed or not.  Every hire is a gamble and there isn't a GM's-R-Us store.   Same rules with college coaches.

Did you apply and they chose him anyway?

[Uncle Rico]

They are.  Gregory is a basketball lifer.  He is in the right place in the right time and is friendly with the owner.  I don't know if he will succeed or not.  Every hire is a gamble and there isn't a GM's-R-Us store.   Same rules with college coaches.

Did you apply and they chose him anyway?

Brian Gregory would be way down any other organizations list of potential GMs.

The Suns have an important off-season ahead of them and the GM has to nail a potential Kevin Durant trade.  Color me skeptical Brian Gregory is the guy to shepherd them through this

[The Sultan]

There isn't a franchise in the entire NBA that would have hired Brian Gregory after one year of NBA front office experience following a mediocre college coaching career. The only reason he was even in the Suns' front office to begin with was because the owner was a player at Michigan State when Greogory was coaching there.

The Suns are a terrible franchise with Ishbia making Suns fans unbelievably long for the days of Robert-f*cking-Sarver.

[JWags85]

There isn't a franchise in the entire NBA that would have hired Brian Gregory after one year of NBA front office experience following a mediocre college coaching career. The only reason he was even in the Suns' front office to begin with was because the owner was a player at Michigan State when Greogory was coaching there.

The Suns are a terrible franchise with Ishbia making Suns fans unbelievably long for the days of Robert-f*cking-Sarver.

The best owner for a franchise is one who is a big enough fan that they want to win no matter what, so they are willing to step back, hire the right people, and open the pockets.   The worst is one who needs to meddle in the on the court/field and front office operations because of their sense of importance and need for control.  The even worse version of that is the one that thinks they are uniquely qualified to impact and meddle in that front office business because they played the sport at a high level in the distant past.  Ishiba seems to be the latter

[The Sultan]

The best owner for a franchise is one who is a big enough fan that they want to win no matter what, so they are willing to step back, hire the right people, and open the pockets.   The worst is one who needs to meddle in the on the court/field and front office operations because of their sense of importance and need for control.  The even worse version of that is the one that thinks they are uniquely qualified to impact and meddle in that front office business because they played the sport at a high level in the distant past.  Ishiba seems to be the latter

Every sports fan wants their team owned by the likes of Peter Holt of the Spurs. Hire great people, provide resources, and deeply care about winning.

[Jockey]

From what?  Who's chasing them?

POTUS.

Stephen A. has said he is considering running in '28. (For real - believe it or not.) Apparently that is the job where we try to hide our idiots now.

[Billy Hoyle]

These aren't parallel arguments.  Gregory doesn't exactly jump off the page as a GM.  Sounds like he's just a buddy of Ishbia.  One day there will be a 7 foot power PG with Curry like skills.   

This. He's a yes man for the Ishbia bros. They have no idea what they're doing as owners.

[Billy Hoyle]

Apparently Jay Williams stated that "cancel culture" is the reason an American hasn't won the NBA MVP award in some time.  Are he and SAS trying to one up each other in idiotic statements?  Smh. 

He seems to be on the same wavelength ad Wade. He's saying coaches aren't allowed to be harsh on players anymore. I think he uses "cancel culture" incorrectly but it's not a far fetched idea (though I'd blame our AAU system more).

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/jay-williams-americas-mvp-drought-cancel-culture.html

"Just this week, Dwyane Wade told Pardon My Take how Tom Crean coached him to tears at times when they were at Marquette. And Wade was very appreciative for that. But the rate at which players transfer schools today undoubtedly makes it harder to develop the type of relationship and trust that allows for that type of coaching."

[MuggsyB]

He seems to be on the same wavelength ad Wade. He's saying coaches aren't allowed to be harsh on players anymore. I think he uses "cancel culture" incorrectly but it's not a far fetched idea (though I'd blame our AAU system more).

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/jay-williams-americas-mvp-drought-cancel-culture.html

"Just this week, Dwyane Wade told Pardon My Take how Tom Crean coached him to tears at times when they were at Marquette. And Wade was very appreciative for that. But the rate at which players transfer schools today undoubtedly makes it harder to develop the type of relationship and trust that allows for that type of coaching."

Ya...I eventually saw that.  He didn't understand what cancel culture is I guess.  But the most recent American MVP's ,other than Curry, have been one and done guys and Lebron.  I'm not sure how much coaching played a role.  Although Wade should have won the MVP on 08-09.  That was a 10 win team without him. 

Correction:  I see Harden and Westbrook played 2 yrs in college.

[wadesworld]

He seems to be on the same wavelength ad Wade. He's saying coaches aren't allowed to be harsh on players anymore. I think he uses "cancel culture" incorrectly but it's not a far fetched idea (though I'd blame our AAU system more).

https://awfulannouncing.com/nba/jay-williams-americas-mvp-drought-cancel-culture.html

"Just this week, Dwyane Wade told Pardon My Take how Tom Crean coached him to tears at times when they were at Marquette. And Wade was very appreciative for that. But the rate at which players transfer schools today undoubtedly makes it harder to develop the type of relationship and trust that allows for that type of coaching."

So the conclusion you're drawing from Wade saying he now appreciates how hard Crean coached him is that Wade believes cancel culture is why international players are winning MVPs?

Quite the jump in logic there. I listened to the interview and Wade had absolutely nothing to say about how players are coached today.

[MuggsyB]

McConnell is a heck of a backup guard. 

[Shaka Shart]

Former head coach of future Big east juggernaut Dayton Brian Gregory?!

[Mutaman]

It only took Thibs 80 some games to figure out that Cameron Payne should not be his backup point guard . So who does he replace him with- Delon Wright !!!

[MuggsyB]

This game has been officiated poorly. But the Pacers are doing a lot of stupid things out there.