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MuggsyB

#1075
April 16, 2025, 08:50:45 PM
What am I missing about Billy Donovan?  Next year will be his 6th season in Chicago7. They have a few good young players but this team is going nowhere. 

WhiteTrash

#1076
April 16, 2025, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2025, 08:50:45 PMWhat am I missing about Billy Donovan?  Next year will be his 6th season in Chicago7. They have a few good young players but this team is going nowhere. 
Billy best attribute is cashing checks. Gotta give him credit, he wins just enough not to get fired. He's not good but, as has been said before, Billy isn't a top 5 problem in Chicago.

Karnišovas is bad at his job, but what makes it worse is he honestly thinks he's the smartest guy in the NBA. It took him years to trade a guy like LaVine because the other 'idiot' GMs wouldn't give him a KD like value in return.
He recently said the best way to win a championship in the NBA is to have 9 good players; all-stars and top draft picks are how stupid people build great teams.

MuggsyB

#1077
April 16, 2025, 09:24:41 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 16, 2025, 09:18:43 PMBilly best attribute is cashing checks. Gotta give him credit, he wins just enough not to get fired. He's not good but, as has been said before, Billy isn't a top 5 problem in Chicago.

Karnišovas is bad at his job, but what makes it worse is he honestly thinks he's the smartest guy in the NBA. It took him years to trade a guy like LaVine because the other 'idiot' GMs wouldn't give him a KD like value in return.
He recently said the best way to win a championship in the NBA is to have 9 good players; all-stars and top draft picks are how stupid people build great teams.

Good grief.  Bulls fans deserve better.  I thought that was some of the worst defense I've ever seen.  At any level. 

cheebs09

#1078
April 16, 2025, 09:33:29 PM
Billy is just waiting for that call from Marquette.

WhiteTrash

#1079
April 16, 2025, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 16, 2025, 09:33:29 PMBilly is just waiting for that call from Marquette.
I think a 6th grade, 15 game, basketball season is more work than Billy is up for.

MuggsyB

#1080
April 16, 2025, 09:46:56 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 16, 2025, 09:42:33 PMI think a 6th grade, 15 game, basketball season is more work than Billy is up for.

So there are no options apparently?  Maybe they get Flagg if someone manipulates the lottery?

WhiteTrash

#1081
April 16, 2025, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2025, 09:46:56 PMSo there are no options apparently?  Maybe they get Flagg if someone manipulates the lottery?
IMO, yes. A miracle in the lottery would do it. But, if you believe AK, he'd trade the pick for a couple of good players to prove his genius team building philosophy.

The Bulls need an ownership change. It is very hard to win in the NBA when you really want to win. JR has no interest in winning. Positive cashflows and enterprise appreciation are his only motivations.

Jockey

#1082
April 17, 2025, 12:01:55 AM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 16, 2025, 09:18:43 PMHe recently said the best way to win a championship in the NBA is to have 9 good players; all-stars and top draft picks are how stupid people build great teams.

He watches a lot of Suns games.

Uncle Rico

#1083
April 17, 2025, 06:23:12 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2025, 09:24:41 PMGood grief.  Bulls fans deserve better.  I thought that was some of the worst defense I've ever seen.  At any level. 

Do they?
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wadesworld

#1084
April 17, 2025, 03:19:56 PM
It's crazy that the Pelicans gave up Dyson Daniels, Larry Nance Jr., and 2 firsts for Dejounte Murray.  I'd take that package for Dame.  Daniels is 22 years old, going to be on the All NBA Defensive team, and just averaged 14 points, 6 rebounds, 4.5 assists, 3(!) steals, 0.7 blocks.  Nance is a good backup center and you get 2 firsts?

Jockey

#1085
April 17, 2025, 03:44:02 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on April 16, 2025, 08:50:45 PMWhat am I missing about Billy Donovan?  Next year will be his 6th season in Chicago7. They have a few good young players but this team is going nowhere. 

Billy doesn't sign or trade for players. Not his job.

MU82

#1086
April 17, 2025, 04:42:19 PM
Reinsdorf hastened the end of the Bulls' dynasty because his greatest fear was seeing the team get stuck for years in the middle ground - nowhere good enough to contend for anything real, but not bad enough to get top draft picks for a couple/few years in a row.

Well, the middle ground is exactly where his team has been for years and years.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

#1087
April 17, 2025, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: MU82 on April 17, 2025, 04:42:19 PMReinsdorf hastened the end of the Bulls' dynasty because his greatest fear was seeing the team get stuck for years in the middle ground - nowhere good enough to contend for anything real, but not bad enough to get top draft picks for a couple/few years in a row.

Well, the middle ground is exactly where his team has been for years and years.
JR's actions and now AK's words today confirm they, by far, value mediocrity over obtaining great players and great results.

I can only guess, that must be the profit sweet spot.

Sad but not unique in sports.

MU82

#1088
April 17, 2025, 10:05:53 PM
Quote from: WhiteTrash on April 17, 2025, 07:54:03 PMJR's actions and now AK's words today confirm they, by far, value mediocrity over obtaining great players and great results.

I can only guess, that must be the profit sweet spot.

Sad but not unique in sports.

He made plenty of money when he had the best team in the world.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

#1089
April 18, 2025, 09:39:27 PM
I know he's a knucklehead, but when Morant is on, he is such a fun player to watch.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

#1090
April 18, 2025, 10:55:49 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on April 18, 2025, 09:39:27 PMI know he's a knucklehead, but when Morant is on, he is such a fun player to watch.

He's really fun, so damn explosive.  But I like watch Edwards a lot more, cause he's the same explosive bouncy smaller guard like Ja, but he can actually shoot now.  I can't believe Morant is still such an abysmal outside shooter.

GB Warrior

#1091
April 19, 2025, 12:59:03 PM
Another year, another unwatchable Bucks team in the playoffs

cheebs09

#1092
April 19, 2025, 01:15:47 PM
Yeesh

MuggsyB

#1093
April 19, 2025, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 19, 2025, 12:59:03 PMAnother year, another unwatchable Bucks team in the playoffs

This can't be right:  67 to 43?  Seriously? 

Jockey

#1094
April 19, 2025, 01:36:56 PM Last Edit: April 19, 2025, 01:39:17 PM by Jockey
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 19, 2025, 12:59:03 PMAnother year, another unwatchable Bucks team in the playoffs

This a a bottom 5 team in the NBA without Giannis.

Kuzma and Prince:
35 minutes- 0 points, 2 boards.

Need I say more?

cheebs09

#1095
April 19, 2025, 01:42:43 PM
It's possible an inactive Middleton is more valuable than Kuzma.

Kind of hoping this marks the end of the Doc/Dame era. Not sure they even have assets to blow this up without trading Giannis.

GB Warrior

#1096
April 19, 2025, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: cheebs09 on April 19, 2025, 01:42:43 PMIt's possible an inactive Middleton is more valuable than Kuzma.

Kind of hoping this marks the end of the Doc/Dame era. Not sure they even have assets to blow this up without trading Giannis.

I think this is the offseason they clean house, Giannis included. Let Jon go to another opportunity and the new guy or gal can build from scratch

MuggsyB

#1097
April 19, 2025, 05:01:33 PM
Quote from: GB Warrior on April 19, 2025, 02:19:45 PMI think this is the offseason they clean house, Giannis included. Let Jon go to another opportunity and the new guy or gal can build from scratch

Giannis appears to be their only asset.   When I've watched them this season I've seen no discernable defense known to man.  Their speed level resembles molasses and they're poorly coached.  They should still get a haul for Giannnis but it would be sad to see him depart. 

MuggsyB

#1098
April 19, 2025, 05:02:36 PM
We have a good finish in Denver. 

PGsHeroes32

#1099
April 19, 2025, 05:16:32 PM
Wow. Incredible D by clippers on that last play
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....
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