Wow!!!

[duanewade]

Marquette's basketball economics are incredible!  Not only are we in the top 10 in attendance but we also have a rich alumni base and are in a metropolitan area and are able to charge premium prices for seats, food, beverages, parking, etc. and still draw over 16,000.  Having a tie in with the Bucks allows us to get a portion of all the arena corporate advertising revenue as well. 

Our program with elite revenues, facilities, and history has allowed us to become a national program where we can obtain blue chip players from anywhere in the country which is reflected by our roster with only one player from Wisconsin on it.  Our elite basketball program and its notoriety from being on tv sets across the country also provides free advertising for the university to continue to recruit students across the country. 

Another little known fact is Marquette has an open invitation to schedule home and home series with any team in the country as teams from ACC, SEC and Big 10 are aggressive in calling us to express an interest and not the other way around.  The pageantry in playing in a beautiful, full pro stadium, with good payouts is very attractive to the opposing players and coaches.  The opposing alumni who make the trip also rave about the game experience, while also enjoy a weekend of checking out the sites and charm that Milwaukee brings. 

So with all the above said... why did we schedule a home and home series with Dayton?  Why not a home and home series with Tennessee or Arkansas who also fill their big arena's.  At the very least a home and home with Auburn would have been great too and would have been an easy deal to get done with Bruce Pearl's Milwaukee experience.

Finally why is the sky always falling on this board?  The Power 5, now Power 4 is a misnomer, marketing ploy.  Most of these "power" conferences are full of dogs who don't even draw 10,000 a game, many "power" teams draw 5,000 or even less and hence why teams like Stanford, Cal, Washington State and Oregon State were left behind.  If the NCAA is losing their grip and there is a consolidation of the elite football programs trying to maximize revenues for themselves, then Marquette needs to plan now for a world when the NCAA is essentially gone.  At that point there could be distinct national power conference formats for the top 40 football programs and the top 40 basketball programs with higher payouts for these elite programs to their schools, coaches and players.  Marquette consistently being one of the top 10 richest/drawing programs would definitely be in prime position to be one of the leading members in the formation of this basketball mega conference.   

With all of the above said having a forward thinking, aggressive, business savvy AD to lead Marquette in the future will be key.  I'm not a fan of an AD who schedules a home and home with Dayton and then also takes us out of our annual tradition of playing in a sexy Thanksgiving Basketball Tournaments against other great programs.  Hopefully Marquette makes smart hires of critical leaders who will maximize our resources and lofty position instead of minimizing it. 

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/TopRevenue/Sports/Basketball/
(this raptor list loses a lot of credibility by showing a huge jump in revenue for Georgetown, unless a billionaire alumni laundered money through the program by paying $20M for a courtside seat, this jump doesn't match up with average attendance of under 7,000 per game and Marquette's reciprocal drop makes no sense either).

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Pretty sure Shaka scheduled Dayton because Marcus Freeman scheduled Northern Illinois.

[tower912]

As one who never thinks the sky is falling in regards to MU basketball, let me say welcome to the light.

As far as Dayton, why not?  Rabid fanbase, a history with MU.  Perhaps foreshadowing expansion.

[RubyWiscy]

Soooo MU's AD blew up all the positives you cite because of scheduling Dayton? I don't get your point.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

Scheduling a strong mid major when already having a top SOS non-con is loser behavior!!!!!!!!

[wadesworld]

Given the author, I chose not to read this novel. Please let me know if I missed anything worthwhile.

[Scoop Snoop]

Soooo MU's AD blew up all the positives you cite because of scheduling Dayton? I don't get your point.

Maybe he wants Marquette to hire Marcus Freeman as our new AD. Gotta hang something on the current AD to justify hiring Freeman.

I can hardly wait for Fieldhouse Flyer to show up here. I've got a bag of popcorn in the cupboard.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Given the author, I chose not to read this novel. Please let me know if I missed anything worthwhile.

It’s safe to say you didn’t.

[WeAreMarquette96]

I’m out of the loop but have seen people making snide comments about Dayton on here for years. Something I’m missing?

[seakm4]

Another little known fact is Marquette has an open invitation to schedule home and home series with any team in the country as teams from ACC, SEC and Big 10 are aggressive in calling us to express an interest and not the other way around.

Most ACC teams* Notre Dame is scared to play us

[MU82]

It’s safe to say you didn’t.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

At this point i would just create a new user name.  I don't think you can live down how quickly your last taek went sub zero.

[Galway Eagle]

At this point i would just create a new user name.  I don't think you can live down how quickly your last taek went sub zero.

He posts infrequently enough that previous hot takes have gone unnoticed.

[DoctorV]

At this point i would just create a new user name.  I don't think you can live down how quickly your last taek went sub zero.

Haha. This board sure doesn’t let people get away with absurd takes.

I will say, I chuckled at the sky is falling part 😂

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

At this point i would just create a new user name.  I don't think you can live down how quickly your last taek went sub zero.

His last take was so bad that it's now a taek.

[DFW HOYA]

https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/TopRevenue/Sports/Basketball/
(this raptor list loses a lot of credibility by showing a huge jump in revenue for Georgetown, unless a billionaire alumni laundered money through the program by paying $20M for a courtside seat, this jump doesn't match up with average attendance of under 7,000 per game and Marquette's reciprocal drop makes no sense either).

Two points:

1. These figures are not "revenues" but are inflows into a budget. This can variously include NCAA revenue, tickets, concessions, booster money, and just as importantly, university subsidies... which prop up many programs.

2. Georgetown averaged 5,442 per game in 2022-23, including numerous free ticket giveaways and student seating. The large variance in spending is likely (but not confirmed) to be a combination of the multi-year Patrick Ewing buyout, the termination of his staff and whatever contracts they had, hiring Ed Cooley, the hiring of his staff, and increased costs to compete at Capital One Arena, where Georgetown apparently pays a market rate second only to Madison Square Garden on a per game basis. As budgets balance in fund accounting, revenues grow to meet expense.

[Herman Cain]

Marquette's basketball economics are incredible!  Not only are we in the top 10 in attendance but we also have a rich alumni base and are in a metropolitan area and are able to charge premium prices for seats, food, beverages, parking, etc. and still draw over 16,000.  Having a tie in with the Bucks allows us to get a portion of all the arena corporate advertising revenue as well. 

Our program with elite revenues, facilities, and history has allowed us to become a national program where we can obtain blue chip players from anywhere in the country which is reflected by our roster with only one player from Wisconsin on it.  Our elite basketball program and its notoriety from being on tv sets across the country also provides free advertising for the university to continue to recruit students across the country. 

Another little known fact is Marquette has an open invitation to schedule home and home series with any team in the country as teams from ACC, SEC and Big 10 are aggressive in calling us to express an interest and not the other way around.  The pageantry in playing in a beautiful, full pro stadium, with good payouts is very attractive to the opposing players and coaches.  The opposing alumni who make the trip also rave about the game experience, while also enjoy a weekend of checking out the sites and charm that Milwaukee brings. 

So with all the above said... why did we schedule a home and home series with Dayton?  Why not a home and home series with Tennessee or Arkansas who also fill their big arena's.  At the very least a home and home with Auburn would have been great too and would have been easy deal to get done with Bruce Pearl's Milwaukee experience.

Finally why is the sky always falling on this board?  The Power 5, now Power 4 is a misnomer, marketing ploy.  Most of these "power" conferences are full of dogs who don't even draw 10,000 a game, many "power" teams draw 5,000 or even less and hence why teams like Stanford, Cal, Washington State and Oregon State were left behind.  If the NCAA is losing their grip and there is a consolidation of the elite football programs trying to maximize revenues for themselves, then Marquette needs to plan now for a world when the NCAA is essentially gone.  At that point there could be distinct national power conference formats for the top 40 football programs and the top 40 basketball programs with higher payouts for these elite programs to their schools, coaches and players.  Marquette consistently being one of the top 10 richest/drawing programs would definitely be in prime position to be one of the leading members in the formation of this basketball mega conference.   

With all of the above said having a forward thinking, aggressive, business savvy AD to lead Marquette in the future will be key.  I'm not a fan of an AD who schedules a home and home with Dayton and then also takes us out of our annual tradition of playing in a sexy Thanksgiving Basketball Tournaments against other great programs.  Hopefully Marquette makes smart hires of critical leaders who will maximize our resources and lofty position instead of minimizing it. 

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/schools-that-make-the-most-money-off-college-basketball

https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/TopRevenue/Sports/Basketball/
(this raptor list loses a lot of credibility by showing a huge jump in revenue for Georgetown, unless a billionaire alumni laundered money through the program by paying $20M for a courtside seat, this jump doesn't match up with average attendance of under 7,000 per game and Marquette's reciprocal drop makes no sense either).

duanewade:
Thanks for the Excellent analysis of why MU Basketball program ranks among the elite. MU has a program we can all be proud of.

A Few Points to consider with respect to this post:
1. MU Basketball Schedule is the responsibility of Mike Broeker, not the AD. Mr. Broeker scheduling is limited  by the availability of Fiserv Forum, as MU is not the owner of the building.
2. While MU is not participating in a holiday tournament this season, it has created the competitive equivalent ( or better)game wise by scheduling the Neutral Site game in Bahamas with Georgia and The first installment of the Dayton Series.
3. This years schedule is one of the better in recent years, as the first three easy games are much better grade than the usual cupcakes . All three of these opponents are coming off of solid seasons and one has the pre-season MAC player of the year on their roster. In addition, we have the first game of Maryland Home and Home, The Big 12 Match up versus Iowa State and The Badger game and Purdue game. Then we have two classic cupcakes.
4. The objective of the non-conference is to put up a very strong win loss record and win some games against quality opponents. I think MU has the chance to do that this season.
5. For Next season , there is no more Big East Big 12 Challenge. However, MU has locked in Maryland, Purdue, The Badgers and Dayton which is a pretty solid place to be in todays environment. There will likely be a MTE for 3 games plus Whatever Cupcakes can be scheduled.
6. As to the sky is falling, MU has an excellent program in an excellent conference and will be a survivor. The Big issue that MU faces is maintaining enough relationships with NIL providers to compete for talent. The dollars being thrown around college athletics are enormous. MU is lucky it doesn't have a Football team worth of NIL to deal with. However, MU will need access to a large 7 digit amount, to fund its share of settlements and arrange for continuing NIL ( in the current format). So the priority in hiring new President of University and AD are individuals who are strong at fund raising.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

😂😂😂

[MU82]

Tough to beat a "serious" conversation between duane and 9-9-9.

[Uncle Rico]

Mods should upgrade the system to allow for AI to occupy Buffoon Cain and Buffoon Wade in a separate chat room.

[Scoop Snoop]

He posts infrequently enough that previous hot takes have gone unnoticed.

Anyone else think that this may be an alternate account for a scooper who posts regularly? I cannot match the writing style with anyone though.

[Uncle Rico]

Anyone else think that this may be an alternate account for a scooper who posts regularly? I cannot match the writing style with anyone though.

Rocky posted a few months ago that this particular poster sent a PM threatening to sue them

[Dickthedribbler]

I believe Coach Smart is very close with Dayton head coach Anthony Grant and thus the Dayton scheduling connection. Plus, if you ever visit the UD Pride message board, the Dayton fans generally have an obsession with Marquette basketball.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I believe Coach Smart is very close with Dayton head coach Anthony Grant and thus the Dayton scheduling connection. Plus, if you ever visit the UD Pride message board, the Dayton fans generally have an obsession with Marquette basketball.

You are correct about the connection with Grant, but I think this was a somewhat last minute thing when a rumored home and home with NC State fell through.

[Billy Hoyle]

I believe Coach Smart is very close with Dayton head coach Anthony Grant and thus the Dayton scheduling connection. Plus, if you ever visit the UD Pride message board, the Dayton fans generally have an obsession with Marquette basketball.

Shaka took over at VCU after Grant took the Alabama job. They were both assistants at Florida prior to getting their first HC jobs at VCU. They were both on the NABC BOD together too.

I love that we scheduled Dayton and hope it becomes a longer running series.

[Uncle Rico]

Shaka took over at VCU after Grant took the Alabama job. They were both assistants at Florida prior to getting their first HC jobs at VCU. They were both on the NABC BOD together too.

I love that we scheduled Dayton and hope it becomes a longer running series.

For all the jokes about Dayton, it should be an excellent opponent.  They’re a good program

[tower912]

Currently with a winning streak against MU.

[Billy Hoyle]

For all the jokes about Dayton, it should be an excellent opponent.  They’re a good program

It should be a hostile atmosphere too. I remember taking the trip in 2003 and it was an intense game.

[Tyler COLEk]

Clearly a lot of MU fans hate Dayton and vice versa. Why not renew a rivalry? Seems like great scheduling to me.

Any concerns around SOS or “prestige” are overblown to say the least.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Clearly a lot of MU fans hate Dayton and vice versa. Why not renew a rivalry? Seems like great scheduling to me.

Any concerns around SOS or “prestige” are overblown to say the least.

As long as Marquette continues to schedule aggressively, I agree.

[Dickthedribbler]

It should be a hostile atmosphere too. I remember taking the trip in 2003 and it was an intense game.

Wasn't that 2003 game played in Hoffman Estates, Illinois as part of a very short lived, four team doubleheader event??

[MUfan12]

Wasn't that 2003 game played in Hoffman Estates, Illinois as part of a very short lived, four team doubleheader event??

I think that was 2008?

The '03 game at Dayton was one helluva homecourt whistle.

[Dickthedribbler]

I think that was 2008?

The '03 game at Dayton was one helluva homecourt whistle.

I was at a Marquette/Dayton game at the UD Arena during the Mike Deane era, 1997 or 1998 I think. It was a Friday night between Christmas and New Years. Marquette ended up squeaking out a win at the end. Very intense game. Hostile environment. Spring came early. About 70 degrees all day and evening.Condensation all over on the floor.

[Billy Hoyle]

Wasn't that 2003 game played in Hoffman Estates, Illinois as part of a very short lived, four team doubleheader event??

It was at UD Arena. It was the day after Ohio State beat Miami for the national title so Dayton fans were extra fired up. That was a really good Dayton team that ended up ranked 16th and won the A-10. We lost in OT, but the season turned out ok in the end.

[PointWarrior]

Dayton sucks!

[rocket surgeon]

For all the jokes about Dayton, it should be an excellent opponent.  They’re a good program

  so there ya go...now that we got reekos blessing, I feel so much better and will sleep well tonight

[rocket surgeon]

on a more serious note-why are the play in games for NCAA show always played at dayton?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

on a more serious note-why are the play in games for NCAA show always played at dayton?

They are willing to host...they do a good job at it...the fans show up...it's centrally located.

[Uncle Rico]

  so there ya go...now that we got reekos blessing, I feel so much better and will sleep well tonight

You should.  I’m usually right and you’re usually wrong. 

[TallTitan34]

I was at the Chicago Invitational game against Dayton in 2008.  I remember someone jumping over Maurice Acker.

Back when the baby blue jerseys were obviously cursed.

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

I was at the Chicago Invitational game against Dayton in 2008.  I remember someone jumping over Maurice Acker.

That would be future NBA forward Chris Wright.



Chris Wright's dunk vs. Marquette 11/28/2008 – YouTube Video – November 28, 2008

[Uncle Rico]

That would be future NBA forward Chris Wright.



Chris Wright's dunk vs. Marquette 11/28/2008 – YouTube Video – November 28, 2008

He sucked

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

He sucked

Not at all.



LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 6, 2012: Kobe Bryant #24 of the Los Angeles Lakers shoots over Chris Wright #33 of the Golden State Warriors at Staples Center on January 6th in Los Angeles. The Lakers won 97-90.

[Uncle Rico]

Not at all.



LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 6, 2012: Kobe Bryant #24 of the Los Angeles Lakers shoots over Chris Wright #33 of the Golden State Warriors at Staples Center on January 6th in Los Angeles. The Lakers won 97-90.

No, he sucked

[wadesworld]

Imagine Chris Wright being one of the best pro alums.

[wadesworld]

Not at all.



LOS ANGELES, CA - JANUARY 6, 2012: Kobe Bryant #24 of the Los Angeles Lakers shoots over Chris Wright #33 of the Golden State Warriors at Staples Center on January 6th in Los Angeles. The Lakers won 97-90.

Congratulations on finding an action shot of Chris in one of the 32 career NBA games he played in.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Congratulations on finding an action shot of Chris in one of the 32 career NBA games he played in.

And lost.

[lawdog77]

And lost.

I was a fan of Sedric Toney in the 80's. Oh wait, that was Andrew Toney. Nevermind

[warriorchick]

What's this "we" crap?

There is no evidence that you are an actual Marquette fan.

[MarquetteMike1977]

I think that was 2008?

The '03 game at Dayton was one helluva homecourt whistle.

Sat court side at the 2008 game. Bad game but season was alright.

What I remember about the 2003 game was Dwyane driving baseline for the final shot. Remember Dwyane saying after the game that he would drive middle from now on for the last shot. But that season turned out alright too.

[Viper]

Sat court side at the 2008 game. Bad game but season was alright.

What I remember about the 2003 game was Dwyane driving baseline for the final shot. Remember Dwyane saying after the game that he would drive middle from now on for the last shot. But that season turned out alright too.

correction…Dwayne ‘whispered’, yes?

[🏀]

Anyone but Dayton