Shooting at the Trump rally 7/13

[Jockey]

Vance is the ultimate above the law authoritarian. That is why he was chosen. Like, trump, he feels a new trump administration is bound by no laws whatsoever.

Vance has said that, had he been vice president in 2020, he would have carried out Trump's scheme for the vice president to overturn the election results. He has fundraised for January 6 rioters. He once called on the Justice Department to open a criminal investigation into a Washington Post columnist who penned a critical piece about Trump. After last week's assassination attempt on Trump, he attempted to whitewash his radicalism by blaming the shooting on Democrats' rhetoric about democracy without an iota of evidence.

In a podcast interview, Vance said that Trump should "fire every single mid-level bureaucrat" in the US government and "replace them with our people." If the courts attempt to stop this, Vance says, Trump should simply ignore the law.


"You stand before the country, like Andrew Jackson did, and say the chief justice has made his ruling, now let him enforce it," he declares. Vance is referring to an 1832 case, Worcester v. Georgia, in which the Supreme Court ruled that the US government needed to respect Native legal rights to land ownership. Jackson ignored the ruling, and continued a policy of allowing whites to take what belonged to Natives. The end result was the ethnic cleansing of about 60,000 Natives — an event we now call the Trail of Tears.

There was no one more anti-America that trump could have picked. They stand together against everything this country was built in.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Not too many years ago, J.D. Vance called the previous president "noxious," "reprehensible," "cultural heroin," and an "idiot." Vance also was worried that the previous president would be "America's Hitler."

So I guess Joy Reid has a chance to be vice president someday.

Just a younger Lindsey Graham without the actual experience of Graham

[MU82]

Yep. Vance is every adjective he used to describe his new boss ... except "idiot."

He was smart enough to bend the knee without sounding like a total MTGish whackjob. So an anti-Constitution social warrior who prefers authoritarianism to democracy could be vice president of the United States.

[Jay Bee]

So I guess Joy Reid has a chance to be vice president someday.

They are busy hiding their x tweets. Shameful

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Investigation Finds Secret Service Failed To Account For Nation's 393 Million Guns

https://www.theonion.com/investigation-finds-secret-service-failed-to-account-fo-1851592934

[Lennys Tap]

The irony is that many of the same people who shrug their shoulders after mass shootings and say "you can't stop someone who's intent on doing evil" are now outraged by the failure to stop someone intent on doing evil.

??? Comparing a mass shooting in a gun free zone where the targets are totally unprotected to an in plain sight rooftop shooter whose target is being protected by a cadre of alleged professionals is about as silly as it gets.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

They are busy hiding their x tweets. Shameful

I presume you are referring here to Vance deleting his tweets about Trump circa 2016? Shameful indeed.

[4everwarriors]

Great personal story, great professional story...extremely intelligent and a real people person. Furthermore, terrific presidential material. Can't wait for the Vance/Buffoon 2 debate. This pick is a absolute home run and a clear cut knockout punch, aina?

[Pakuni]

??? Comparing a mass shooting in a gun free zone where the targets are totally unprotected to an in plain sight rooftop shooter whose target is being protected by a cadre of alleged professionals is about as silly as it gets.

Way to miss the point. I suspect intentionally, but whatever.

[Pakuni]

Great personal story, great professional story...extremely intelligent and a real people person. Furthermore, terrific presidential material. Can't wait for the Vance/Buffoon 2 debate. This pick is a absolute home run and a clear cut knockout punch, aina?

Some of my favorite JD quotes:

"Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they'll realize it."

"Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man. Lord help us."

"Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us."

"I think that I'm going to vote third party because I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the White working class to a very dark place."

"I'm a 'Never Trump' guy. I never liked him."

"To every complex problem, he promises a simple solution. He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can't. Trump's promises are the needle in America's collective vein."

[Lennys Tap]

Way to miss the point. I suspect intentionally, but whatever.

I miss the point? Why, because I know the meaning of irony? LOL.

[The Sultan]

I miss the point? Why, because I know the meaning of irony? LOL.

Ah. I see. You were just being "ironic."

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Great personal story, great professional story...extremely intelligent and a real people person. Furthermore, terrific presidential material. Can't wait for the Vance/Buffoon 2 debate. This pick is a absolute home run and a clear cut knockout punch, aina?

Ivy leaguer. Probably plagerized.

Either way, got his nose so up Thiel's jock strap he can check for prostate cancer.

Proceed with the stripping of parts of the nation while ordinary citizens continue to be marginalized and get shot at presidential rallies for no particular reason.

[The Sultan]

Great personal story, great professional story...extremely intelligent and a real people person.

Honestly, I think he does have a good personal and professional story. When he first came on the scene, he made a lot of very good observations about American society that were not without merit.  Like this piece on race in America.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/08/race-relations-getting-worse-america-why/

"Last month, for instance, the brilliant Harvard economist Roland Fryer published an exhaustive study of police uses of force. He found that even after controlling for crime rates and police presence in a given neighborhood, black youths were far likelier to be pushed, thrown to the ground, or harassed by police. (Notably, he also found no racial disparity in the use of lethal force.) No other study of comparable rigor exists on the subject, and its conclusion is clear: that black youth derive their fear of police from experience. The injury done to our black citizens is important and no respectable party can ignore it."

But he doesn't talk like this any longer. And I think we all know why.

[Lennys Tap]

Ah. I see. You were just being "ironic."

No, there was zero irony in the two situations Pakuni cites. They're nowhere near the same, not even comparable. Actually opposite on many levels.

[MU82]

Some of my favorite JD quotes:

"Trump is cultural heroin. He makes some feel better for a bit. But he cannot fix what ails them, and one day they'll realize it."

"Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man. Lord help us."

"Trump makes people I care about afraid. Immigrants, Muslims, etc. Because of this I find him reprehensible. God wants better of us."

"I think that I'm going to vote third party because I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the White working class to a very dark place."

"I'm a 'Never Trump' guy. I never liked him."

"To every complex problem, he promises a simple solution. He never offers details for how these plans will work, because he can't. Trump's promises are the needle in America's collective vein."

He didn't mean any of them. Was only being ironic.

Honestly, I think he does have a good personal and professional story. When he first came on the scene, he made a lot of very good observations about American society that were not without merit.  Like this piece on race in America.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/08/race-relations-getting-worse-america-why/

"Last month, for instance, the brilliant Harvard economist Roland Fryer published an exhaustive study of police uses of force. He found that even after controlling for crime rates and police presence in a given neighborhood, black youths were far likelier to be pushed, thrown to the ground, or harassed by police. (Notably, he also found no racial disparity in the use of lethal force.) No other study of comparable rigor exists on the subject, and its conclusion is clear: that black youth derive their fear of police from experience. The injury done to our black citizens is important and no respectable party can ignore it."

But he doesn't talk like this any longer. And I think we all know why.

Personal ambition > giving two shytes about his fellow human beings.

[The Sultan]

Personal ambition > giving two shytes about his fellow human beings.

I would be more charitable and say that they sacrifice their personal values for their ambition.

Which is why politicians merely should be tolerated and not idolized.

[4everwarriors]

Perfect choice...may not have started off loving Trump, but saw the vision, vigor, and victory in the man who will raise this country from a third world nation to to the leader of the free world once again. There's hope, too, for y'all. Perfect choice, aina?

[TSmith34, Inc.]

LOL. I see 4elder's instincts about politicians are just as good as his instincts about athletes and vaccines.

Vance has the one and only important characteristic Trump wanted--unswerving loyalty no matter what laws he is told to break. He won't have to send a mob to hang JD Vance, no sir!

[MU82]

Perfect choice...may not have started off loving Trump, but saw the vision, vigor, and victory in the man who will raise this country from a third world nation to to the leader of the free world once again. There's hope, too, for y'all. Perfect choice, aina?

The perfect choice for the next Reich, that's for sure.

[Jockey]

Great personal story, great professional story...extremely intelligent and a real people person. Furthermore, terrific presidential material. Can't wait for the Vance/Buffoon 2 debate. This pick is a absolute home run and a clear cut knockout punch, aina?

Hopefully Ms. Harris wil ask him to explain why he called trump 'America's Hitler".

[Lennys Tap]

The perfect choice for the next Reich, that's for sure.

Vance is honest about being a never Trumper in 2016. After watching his administration and its policies he admitted that he had been wrong.

I watched David Axelrod talk about Vance on CNN today. Vance was on his podcast in 2017 and Axelrod was very impressed.

[MU82]

Hopefully Ms. Harris wil ask him to explain why he called trump 'America's Hitler".

Sounds like a great nickname - one created and enthusiastically presented by America's Hitler's own running mate!

[rocket surgeon]

well ya'll better assume and hope like hell JD and Donald kissed and made up because they're going to be your next POTUS and VP-anything better than Mr magoo and heels up

[MU82]

Oh, America's Hitler and his sidekick haven't won yet.