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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on August 01, 2024, 11:51:42 AM
So glad she was able to be in the Olympics, Goose. That alone is a huge accomplishment. And I believe your "cousin's daughter"=your 2nd cousin, right?

Agreed, that is a heck of an accomplishment and something to be very proud of.

Which sport, Goose

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 01, 2024, 11:38:39 AM
Without looking, can you name me three women's boxing participants?

I'm going to guess no.  So no, you don't actually care about the integrity of it, you just care about the outrage that is being manufactured.

At least be honest with yourself if you're not going to be honest with the rest of us.

This is an interesting take.  Regardless of whether I can name 3 women's boxing participants in an event that happens every 4 years (I can by the way), I can still express my concern as both a woman, a coach, and a feminist on the general state of women's athletics.  Like it or not, men and women are biologically very different, which is why women's sports were created in the first place.  I'm not going to elaborate any more; I know all you dudes are totally okay with women losing out on their opportunities to compete and perform in women's events, so that non-biological women can feel some kind of validation, so there is no reason open up that Pandora's box. 

jutaw22mu

Quote from: Goose on August 01, 2024, 11:42:20 AM
Sorry to report that my cousin's daughter did not medal. Looks like an end of a very good career for her.

Sorry that she did not medal, but pretty cool feather in the cap to say she was an Olympian.  Did the rowing occur on the Seine?  I'm curious if you have heard from her at all regarding the living conditions...are the beds really cardboard boxes? 

The Sultan

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 12:14:17 PM
This is an interesting take.  Regardless of whether I can name 3 women's boxing participants in an event that happens every 4 years (I can by the way), I can still express my concern as both a woman, a coach, and a feminist on the general state of women's athletics.  Like it or not, men and women are biologically very different, which is why women's sports were created in the first place.  I'm not going to elaborate any more; I know all you dudes are totally okay with women losing out on their opportunities to compete and perform in women's events, so that non-biological women can feel some kind of validation, so there is no reason open up that Pandora's box. 

"Let's not open up that Pandora's box." After you have repeatedly done so on this board.

Anyway, sorry you get called out for passing along exaggerated and wrong information.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Goose

22MU

I believe the events were on the Seine. Other than updates on her performance, I have only received drinking/bar updates. I believe they are heading to Serbia this weekend to cause trouble in another country.

Pakuni

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 12:14:17 PM
This is an interesting take.  Regardless of whether I can name 3 women's boxing participants in an event that happens every 4 years (I can by the way), I can still express my concern as both a woman, a coach, and a feminist on the general state of women's athletics.  Like it or not, men and women are biologically very different, which is why women's sports were created in the first place.  I'm not going to elaborate any more; I know all you dudes are totally okay with women losing out on their opportunities to compete and perform in women's events, so that non-biological women can feel some kind of validation, so there is no reason open up that Pandora's box.

Can you really call yourself a feminist when you've argued that the thousands of women born every year with XY chromosomes aren't really women? What are they then?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 12:14:17 PM
This is an interesting take.  Regardless of whether I can name 3 women's boxing participants in an event that happens every 4 years (I can by the way), I can still express my concern as both a woman, a coach, and a feminist on the general state of women's athletics.  Like it or not, men and women are biologically very different, which is why women's sports were created in the first place.  I'm not going to elaborate any more; I know all you dudes are totally okay with women losing out on their opportunities to compete and perform in women's events, so that non-biological women can feel some kind of validation, so there is no reason open up that Pandora's box.

I understand the difference between men and women.  The issue at hand is that the standards that the IBA's standards are their own, and have been the only organization (that I'm aware of) to bar these women.  Insinuating that these women, who have only ever competed as women and have only ever been recognized as women for their entire lives are somehow not, in fact, women is objectively not feminist.

It isn't even as if either of the two women who have been singled out are even remotely dominant (as you, and many others seem to imply that they're dangerous) in boxing.  Honestly, what is happening to them is nothing short of bullying for being more masculine presenting.  Similar to the hate that is being thrown at Ilona Maher of the American Rugby team.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 01, 2024, 12:46:03 PM
It isn't even as if either of the two women who have been singled out are even remotely dominant (as you, and many others seem to imply that they're dangerous) in boxing. 

That probably depends on what you call dominant, I mean she's not Harrington or Taylor but a continental championship, a silver medal in world championships, and a gold in the Mediterranean championships. That's better than 99% of boxers out there.

Just to clarify I'm not defending Jutaw22's argument that people born as women who compete as women shouldn't be allowed to participate, only that Imane is a pretty dominant force.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Warriors4ever

Goose, big congrats to your cousin for getting to the Olympics.👏 huge accomplishment in its own right.
I am sure you are looking forward to all the stories.

wadesworld

Damn Simone just stepped up big time there.


Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 01, 2024, 12:46:03 PM
I understand the difference between men and women.  The issue at hand is that the standards that the IBA's standards are their own, and have been the only organization (that I'm aware of) to bar these women.  Insinuating that these women, who have only ever competed as women and have only ever been recognized as women for their entire lives are somehow not, in fact, women is objectively not feminist.

It isn't even as if either of the two women who have been singled out are even remotely dominant (as you, and many others seem to imply that they're dangerous) in boxing.  Honestly, what is happening to them is nothing short of bullying for being more masculine presenting.  Similar to the hate that is being thrown at Ilona Maher of the American Rugby team.

They should box in dresses so they look more feminine
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 12:14:17 PM
This is an interesting take.  Regardless of whether I can name 3 women's boxing participants in an event that happens every 4 years (I can by the way), I can still express my concern as both a woman, a coach, and a feminist on the general state of women's athletics.  Like it or not, men and women are biologically very different, which is why women's sports were created in the first place.  I'm not going to elaborate any more; I know all you dudes are totally okay with women losing out on their opportunities to compete and perform in women's events, so that non-biological women can feel some kind of validation, so there is no reason open up that Pandora's box.

Jutwa, I'm honestly trying to understand,  did you assume that these two women were trans women and not realize that they were cis women with typically male chrimosomes? Or is your position that cis women born with typically male chromosomes (such as women born with Swyer syndrome) are not women?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Hards Alumni

Quote from: wadesworld on August 01, 2024, 01:27:43 PM
Damn Simone just stepped up big time there.

Suni getting bronze is just as impressive considering the road back she's had to endure.

But Simone is undoubtedly the GOAT.

MuggsyB

Quote from: wadesworld on August 01, 2024, 01:27:43 PM
Damn Simone just stepped up big time there.

Excellent.  When exactly did she drop the 🔨 ?  On what event?  Ty.  She wasn't close to 100% from the little I saw. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: Goose on August 01, 2024, 11:42:20 AM
Sorry to report that my cousin's daughter did not medal. Looks like an end of a very good career for her.

She did a heck of a job Goose.  Hopefully she can now relax and enjoy her Euro travels. 

warriorchick

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 02:18:20 PM
Excellent.  When exactly did she drop the 🔨 ?  On what event?  Ty.  She wasn't close to 100% from the little I saw.

Basically, she just climbed out of the hole she was in after the 2nd rotation.  She did well on beam and killed it on floor.
Have some patience, FFS.

MuggsyB

Quote from: warriorchick on August 01, 2024, 02:24:49 PM
Basically, she just climbed out of the hole she was in after the 2nd rotation.  She did well on beam and killed it on floor.

Oh....so she was losing early in the event?  She tends to dominate the floor.  So like at 80% she's apparently still better than everyone.  I wonder if she'll compete in 2028?

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 02:18:20 PM
Excellent.  When exactly did she drop the 🔨 ?  On what event?  Ty.  She wasn't close to 100% from the little I saw.
her score through two rounds was only slightly lower than expected.  She dominated vault (1st event) and had a small miscue on Bars (2nd event) which is by far her weakest event.  It wasn't really a big surprise that she wasn't in 1st after the halfway point.  All she had to do was hit her last two routines (no major mistakes) and she was expected to win.  She nailed them and she won.  Suni was the bigger story with all she's been through.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 02:29:11 PM
Oh....so she was losing early in the event?  She tends to dominate the floor.  So like at 80% she's apparently still better than everyone.  I wonder if she'll compete in 2028?
did you even watch?  Floor was the final rotation.  All she had to do was not fall over and she was going to win gold. 

I haven't heard or read anywhere that she's not at 100%.

MuggsyB

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on August 01, 2024, 02:32:45 PM
did you even watch?  Floor was the final rotation.  All she had to do was not fall over and she was going to win gold. 

I haven't heard or read anywhere that she's not at 100%.

I thought I might be able to catch the end during my break now but it's over.  When I watched the team comp Biles looked 75- 80% to me. 

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 02:41:51 PM
I thought I might be able to catch the end during my break now but it's over.  When I watched the team comp Biles looked 75- 80% to me.

There is the evening where things are repeated on NBC

lawdog77

tin foil hat on. Steve Kerr is trying.to dismantle the Celtics.
Leave Jaylen Brown off
Pick Derek White
Sit Tatum and play White
Overuse Holliday

Galway Eagle

Diana moorhouse was robbed in boxing. Sooner this sport loses its status in the Olympics sooner it can get cleaned up.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

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