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jficke13

Women's Foil with the gold. Heck yeah.

Couple interesting coaching decisions and hard to say they didn't pay off. The alternate, Weintraub, doesn't fence at all the entire olympics until halfway through the gold medal match, gets two rotations, and CRUSHES, is one. The other is going with Scruggs (silver medalist in individual) instead of Kiefer (gold medalist and world #1) to anchor. Kiefer and the team built a huge lead, Scruggs in the anchor position let Italy back into it and really looked on her heels there for a minute, but using the lead did enough to get over the finish line.

First U.S. team gold in olympic history, mens or womens.

Woot.

tower912

History may be in the offing for women's basketball.  Belgium hanging around.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on August 01, 2024, 02:54:30 PM
There is the evening where things are repeated on NBC

Not to mention there are dozens of other sources that you can read (or watch the highlights) to catch up.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

muwarrior69

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 01, 2024, 01:52:29 PM
Jutwa, I'm honestly trying to understand,  did you assume that these two women were trans women and not realize that they were cis women with typically male chrimosomes? Or is your position that cis women born with typically male chromosomes (such as women born with Swyer syndrome) are not women?

Imane Khelif does not have Swyers syndrome as those individuals with Swyers produce neither progesterone or testosterone. She is a person with xy chromosomes who presents as a female but whose body produces testosterone levels as a male.  It gives her an advantage over most xx females competing in a sport like boxing. Now if it were synchronized swimming no one would give a hoot.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
Imane Khelif does not have Swyers syndrome as those individuals with Swyers produce neither progesterone or testosterone. She is a person with xy chromosomes who presents as a female but whose body produces testosterone levels as a male.  It gives her an advantage over most xx females competing in a sport like boxing. Now if it were synchronized swimming no one would give a hoot.

This doesnt answer my question.  Are you arguing that shes actually a trans woman? Or are you arguing that a cis woman born with xy chromosomes is not a woman?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


wadesworld

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
Imane Khelif does not have Swyers syndrome as those individuals with Swyers produce neither progesterone or testosterone. She is a person with xy chromosomes who presents as a female but whose body produces testosterone levels as a male.  It gives her an advantage over most xx females competing in a sport like boxing. Now if it were synchronized swimming no one would give a hoot.

Someone who is over 6'10" has an advantage in basketball or volleyball over me.  That's not fair, they shouldn't be allowed to play.

tower912

US women hold on, but Belgium is not far away.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Pakuni

#632
Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 01, 2024, 03:21:20 PM
Imane Khelif does not have Swyers syndrome as those individuals with Swyers produce neither progesterone or testosterone. She is a person with xy chromosomes who presents as a female but whose body produces testosterone levels as a male.  It gives her an advantage over most xx females competing in a sport like boxing. Now if it were synchronized swimming no one would give a hoot.

Michael Phelps has genetic advantages that make him a faster swimmer than normal guys.
LeBron James has genetic advantages that make him better at basketball than normal guys.
Serena Williams has genetic advantages that make her a better tennis player than normal women.
Erling Haaland has genetic advantages that make him a better soccer player than normal guys.

The best athletes have always had innate advantages. That includes fighters. It's a big part of what makes them great.
Why is this suddenly a problem for these two athletes?

Galway Eagle

Quote from: wadesworld on August 01, 2024, 03:35:46 PM
Someone who is over 6'10" has an advantage in basketball or volleyball over me.  That's not fair, they shouldn't be allowed to play.

I'd pay to see height classes in basketball the way there's weight classes in combat sports. It'd be phenomenal to see the sub 6' basketball league.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Galway Eagle

USA finally getting it rolling against China in beach volleyball and they pause it due to lightning ugh
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

Pakuni

Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2024, 03:47:59 PM
I'd pay to see height classes in basketball the way there's weight classes in combat sports. It'd be phenomenal to see the sub 6' basketball league.

There was briefly a pro league for players 6'5" and under.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Basketball_League

tower912

Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2024, 03:47:59 PM
I'd pay to see height classes in basketball the way there's weight classes in combat sports. It'd be phenomenal to see the sub 6' basketball league.
Like in intramurals?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: tower912 on August 01, 2024, 03:55:59 PM
Like in intramurals?

Some people here could dunk in intramurals if I recall

If I complained about getting hit too hard in a sport that's focused around hitting by someone who did not even win the prior Olympics, maybe I shouldn't be in that sport anymore. Seems like people are inventing a trans athlete to get mad at.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

jutaw22mu

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 01, 2024, 01:52:29 PM
Jutwa, I'm honestly trying to understand,  did you assume that these two women were trans women and not realize that they were cis women with typically male chrimosomes? Or is your position that cis women born with typically male chromosomes (such as women born with Swyer syndrome) are not women?

Didn't realize they were cis-women to be honest.  Although logically I should have assumed that given that Lia Thomas and others were not allowed to compete.  I have zero problems with cis women competing..never had an issue with the track athlete from South Africa either (Castor??).  My only problem is with biological men, so thanks for clarifying.

jutaw22mu

The balance beam to me is the craziest gymnastics event.  I would probably die if I tried that.

wadesworld

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 04:59:21 PM
Didn't realize they were cis-women to be honest.  Although logically I should have assumed that given that Lia Thomas and others were not allowed to compete.  I have zero problems with cis women competing..never had an issue with the track athlete from South Africa either (Castor??).  My only problem is with biological men, so thanks for clarifying.

Get outraged first.  Get the facts later.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Galway Eagle on August 01, 2024, 03:47:59 PM
I'd pay to see height classes in basketball the way there's weight classes in combat sports. It'd be phenomenal to see the sub 6' basketball league.

Galway,

I've been a strong advocate (for many years) that there should be multiple hoops leagues for our diminutive citizens. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 05:06:02 PM
Galway,

I've been a strong advocate (for many years) that there should be multiple hoops leagues for our diminutive citizens. 

That no one would watch.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 01, 2024, 05:06:02 PM
Galway,

I've been a strong advocate (for many years) that there should be multiple hoops leagues for our diminutive citizens.
If there was a market for them, they would exist.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

jesmu84

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 04:59:21 PM
Didn't realize they were cis-women to be honest.  Although logically I should have assumed that given that Lia Thomas and others were not allowed to compete.  I have zero problems with cis women competing..never had an issue with the track athlete from South Africa either (Castor??).  My only problem is with biological men, so thanks for clarifying.

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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 05:01:42 PM
The balance beam to me is the craziest gymnastics event.  I would probably die if I tried that.

Hell, I can't walk and chew gum at the same time.

I get tired of watching some of the events after a while, but women's gymnastics is not one of them. Did you see how high Simone got on her floor exercise during the team competition? We need someone with that ability on our bball team. Unstoppable dunks!

I have great respect for all the athletes. My Gawd, they work hard for years just to qualify for the Olympics.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Warriors4ever

My favorite gymnastics events to watch are the uneven parallel bars, the high bars, the balance beam and the pommel horse, which fascinates me for some unfathomable reason...I do not know how they do all those things on the balance beam...

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Jockey

Quote from: tower912 on August 01, 2024, 05:09:13 PM
If there was a market for them, they would exist.

Doesn't Fisher-Price make equipment for the muggsy's of the world?

The Sultan

Quote from: jutaw22mu on August 01, 2024, 04:59:21 PM
Didn't realize they were cis-women to be honest.  Although logically I should have assumed that given that Lia Thomas and others were not allowed to compete.  I have zero problems with cis women competing..never had an issue with the track athlete from South Africa either (Castor??).  My only problem is with biological men, so thanks for clarifying.

So instead of doing basic research, you took the word of an organization that's too corrupt for the IOC. Impressive.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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