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Next up: A long offseason

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PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

brewcity77

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on April 09, 2024, 07:57:54 AM
DeCourcy hates us. Confirmed.

His list is hilarious. Villanova has basically no one and is ranked ahead of us.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Next season could have been the Covid bonus year for Tyler, Oso, O-Max, and Justin.  Wild!

As it is, we'll see how Shaka shapes the roster for next year.  Very few reports linking Marquette to portal prospects, so I'm not expecting much of a shift in philosophy.

Off season player development will be the key.  Chase and Ben need to make big leaps, and the seniors all need to take on increased responsibility.  The rest of the roster needs to produce 2-3 players to provide depth.

jutaw22mu

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 09, 2024, 08:02:33 AM
His list is hilarious. Villanova has basically no one and is ranked ahead of us.

Well, they have Kyle Neptune.

Jay Bee

Quote from: MUMonster03 on April 09, 2024, 04:19:16 AM
People leaving/staying isn't going to matter if we can't fix our one major problem which was rebounding. The offense will likely be fine, but we will once again be undersized and crushed on the glass. If Shaka goes to the portal hopefully it is to fix issues that can't be fixed with the current roster.

This is a Shaka program. Wishing for strong rebounding is a waste of time.
The portal is NOT closed.

NickelDimer

Quote from: jimmybutlerfanatic on April 08, 2024, 11:20:01 PM
I'll say it since no one else here will.

THERE IS NOT 1 PLAYER ON THE 2023/24 ROSTER THAT IS NBA READY. NOT 1.

At best the 3 that are most ready are a minimum of 1 year of college ball away and probably all 3 are G-League after next year.

If you truly think and believe through the lenses of your blue and gold colored glasses that this team has 3 NBA players on it then why don't they resemble a team like, I don't know, UCONN, who legitimately has NBA players on their roster?
How many did Purdue have on the floor last night?
No Finish Line

wombataholic

Quote from: jutaw22mu on April 09, 2024, 08:48:29 AM
Well, they have Kyle Neptune.

Can you imagine how high they'd be ranked without him?  Easily #1 overall.  Probably better than most NBA teams as well.

The Lens

#107
Regarding next year...

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1687135810468900864?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Quote"Caedin Hamilton - super excited about him with us and he will be here to start school. He's not going on this trip with us cause literally just happened in the last week and super excited about him getting here 6 foot 8, 6 foot nine. He's got an unbelievable wingspan he unlike probably anyone on our current roster. He seeks out and enjoys and relish his contact really big body and he loves physicality and he's a guy right now.

Our plan is to redshirt him to develop him and for him at this time next year to be ready to be a major impact player on our team. He's a guy junior year he barely played for his high school team Played barely got off the bench and then a senior year. He let his team to the state championship average the double double so his trajectory right now is one of the best things he has gone for going like this 🚀 on top of that he's high character comes from a family that cares about the right things and he wants to be part of a team values relationships, our kind of guy."
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

The Sultan

If Caedin can be more than a 10-12 mpg guy next year, I will be happy.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Mu8891

I'd say Caedin plays 5 to 7 mins a game next year.  Max.

lawdog77

Quote from: Mu8891 on April 09, 2024, 10:59:19 AM
I'd say Caedin plays 5 to 7 mins a game next year.  Max.
My hot take. Hamilton will lead us in rebounding

TAMU, Knower of Ball

I don't expect more than an Amadou type role for Hamilton next season
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
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CountryRoads

There's no harm in it, but Shaka is usually very rah-rah about his guys in general. My take is that if the staff thought Hamilton could have helped us win games last year, he wouldn't have redshirted. Likely has a long way to go, but I'm optimistic.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 09, 2024, 11:17:23 AM
I don't expect more than an Amadou type role for Hamilton next season

Well, he did "shoot" 100% for the year.  52 total minutes, and 6-6 on dunks!?!?

tower912

14 more minutes than freshman Oso.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: tower912 on April 09, 2024, 11:23:38 AM
14 more minutes than freshman Oso.

And 230% more scoring. 

MU82

Good article in The Athletic about how UConn and Purdue - as well as the previous several national champions - have developed a blueprint for building title contenders in this NIL/transfer portal era.

https://theathletic.com/5401341/2024/04/09/uconn-national-title-purdue-roster-building-column/?

Shaka's philosophy is quite similar - recruit good players who want to work hard and get better, develop them, "re-recruit" them to keep them around for years. The main difference is that most of these teams have added a carefully selected player from the transfer portal, so it will be interesting to see if Shaka makes that happen.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

With the one (currently) available scholarship, Shaka needs to find a player good enough to make the team better without wanting a bag drop.  Or without disrupting culture.    So, an overlooked low major or DII PG with size and versatility.  Preferably a one year rental.
  Joe Chartouny comes to mind.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on April 09, 2024, 11:38:19 AM
With the one (currently) available scholarship, Shaka needs to find a player good enough to make the team better without wanting a bag drop.  Or without disrupting culture.    So, an overlooked low major or DII PG with size and versatility.  Preferably a one year rental.
  Joe Chartouny comes to mind.

Couldn't Dalton Knecht or Baylor Scheierman or even Cam Spencer come to mind?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

#119
Would any of them come for free or close to it?  Remember, Shaka was actually in on a back up center prior to season two until the player asked for a bag drop.   Shaka then pivoted to Wrightsil.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

I don't know the definition of "bag drop" these days.

Is $50K-100K so little that it's a joke? $250K? $500K? $1M?

How much would Tyler Kolek - an OK 2-guard for an OK A-10 team - have "demanded" had NIL been a thing all the way back in 2021? For that matter, how big of a "bag" would Chartouney have been able to get?

How much would, say, Ben Gold get from another program if he declared himself a free agent?

How much would Shaka be willing to pay to not upset his culture?

I have confidence that our fellow Scoopers can speculate but - no offense to any of us - little confidence that any of us actually know answers to questions like these.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Pakuni

Quote from: tower912 on April 09, 2024, 11:38:19 AM
With the one (currently) available scholarship, Shaka needs to find a player good enough to make the team better without wanting a bag drop.  Or without disrupting culture.    So, an overlooked low major or DII PG with size and versatility.  Preferably a one year rental.
  Joe Chartouny comes to mind.

Would a high-profile player with a large NIL value disrupt the culture?

wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on April 09, 2024, 12:01:35 PM
I don't know the definition of "bag drop" these days.

Is $50K-100K so little that it's a joke? $250K? $500K? $1M?

How much would Tyler Kolek - an OK 2-guard for an OK A-10 team - have "demanded" had NIL been a thing all the way back in 2021? For that matter, how big of a "bag" would Chartouney have been able to get?

How much would, say, Ben Gold get from another program if he declared himself a free agent?

How much would Shaka be willing to pay to not upset his culture?

I have confidence that our fellow Scoopers can speculate but - no offense to any of us - little confidence that any of us actually know answers to questions like these.

I'll have Herman ask Quentin Grimes to get to the bottom of these numbers for us.  I'm confident Grimes knows people who could give him accurate figures.

Unless Rico is having lunch with Cal in Fayetteville first.

tower912

Quote from: Pakuni on April 09, 2024, 12:12:44 PM
Would a high-profile player with a large NIL value disrupt the culture?
Evidence so far Indicates we will never know.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: wadesworld on April 09, 2024, 12:15:43 PM
I'll have Herman ask Quentin Grimes to get to the bottom of these numbers for us.  I'm confident Grimes knows people who could give him accurate figures.

Unless Rico is having lunch with Cal in Fayetteville first.

Talked to Cal last night.  Things are pretty much done.  Don't have time to do lunch with him today.  I'm in Augusta and Toby Wilt and I are having lunch on the grounds.  I'll see if what he thinks about the portal.
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