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#150
Quote from: jimmybutlerfanatic on April 10, 2024, 06:30:23 AM
1 and that's 100% more than this year's MU team.
Who?

Edit: I won't wait for the predictable response of Edey and instead just address. First, Edey, Kolek and Oso are all mocked as 2nd round picks or maybe late first. Second, if you think Edey is more of an NBA fit than the other two I'm guessing you don't watch much NBA.
No Finish Line

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 10, 2024, 06:24:12 PM
Maybe Washington Irving

I'm more interested in the future of a guy like Irving Berlin.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 11, 2024, 12:22:32 PM
I'm more interested in the future of a guy like Irving Berlin.

Berlin would take my breath away.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 11, 2024, 12:34:16 PM
Berlin would take my breath away.
Not 'No more words?'   


Kam is staying.   Trust the process.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: tower912 on April 10, 2024, 05:55:06 PM
If no one else else leaves, you can choose only one.  IMO
1.  PG
2.  Experienced big.


There is no #3.

I think #2 should be #1. Ben Gold as our only big???

Noted the comparisons some posters made re: Big Al's frosh minutes, scoring compared to Oso, but I'm not sold.
Hamilton likes contact, but that usually means quick fouls for a frosh. Portal, Shaka? Prob comes down to $$$.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 11, 2024, 05:26:16 PM
I think #2 should be #1. Ben Gold as our only big???

Noted the comparisons some posters made re: Big Al's frosh minutes, scoring compared to Oso, but I'm not sold.
Hamilton likes contact, but that usually means quick fouls for a frosh. Portal, Shaka? Prob comes down to $$$.

Ben Gold isn't our only big.

They have Caedin Hamilton, Al Amadou, Royce Parham.
VIOLENCE!

The Sultan

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2024, 06:07:39 PM
Ben Gold isn't our only big.

They have Caedin Hamilton, Al Amadou, Royce Parham.

Be still my beating heart.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 11, 2024, 06:08:31 PM
Be still my beating heart.

They are high on Caedin Hamilton from what I hear.

If they do add a big in the portal I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer out.
VIOLENCE!

Viper

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2024, 06:11:02 PM
They are high on Caedin Hamilton from what I hear.

If they do add a big in the portal I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer out.
who is Al Amadou for $200, Ken
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mileskishnish72

Since Shaka likes bigs who can pass, Bobby Avila is in the portal.

IrwinFletcher

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2024, 06:11:02 PM
They are high on Caedin Hamilton from what I hear.

If they do add a big in the portal I wouldn't be surprised to see a transfer out.

"That boy is going to be a real problem"

- Kam Jones on Caedin Hamilton

Viper

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on April 12, 2024, 08:03:11 AM
"That boy is going to be a real problem"

- Kam Jones on Caedin Hamilton
...range guy? Let's see what he does on the 1st tee
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MUbiz

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 11, 2024, 06:07:39 PM
Ben Gold isn't our only big.

They have Caedin Hamilton, Al Amadou, Royce Parham.

Caedin, Al and Royce are all 6ft 9inch tall and 2 of them have a very slim build - I would not classify them as true big men. For me, I hope we get a true center, but I trust Shaka.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MUbiz on April 12, 2024, 09:40:07 AM
Caedin, Al and Royce are all 6ft 9inch tall and 2 of them have a very slim build - I would not classify them as true big men. For me, I hope we get a true center, but I trust Shaka.

Oso was classified as 6'9 for his Fr-Jr years, but then 6'11 as a Sr.

Take that for what it is worth.

DJ Burns is listed as 6'9, and I'd say he plays like a true center.

Also, there aren't a whole lot of 'true' centers out there, and even fewer are over 6'11. 

Not sure we need a true center since our offense doesn't really run through a big man down low.

MUbiz

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 09:44:40 AM
Oso was classified as 6'9 for his Fr-Jr years, but then 6'11 as a Sr.

Take that for what it is worth.

DJ Burns is listed as 6'9, and I'd say he plays like a true center.

Also, there aren't a whole lot of 'true' centers out there, and even fewer are over 6'11. 

Not sure we need a true center since our offense doesn't really run through a big man down low.

That is fair. Shaka must think the world of Caedin.

Pakuni

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 12, 2024, 09:44:40 AM
Oso was classified as 6'9 for his Fr-Jr years, but then 6'11 as a Sr.

Take that for what it is worth.

DJ Burns is listed as 6'9, and I'd say he plays like a true center.

Also, there aren't a whole lot of 'true' centers out there, and even fewer are over 6'11. 

Not sure we need a true center since our offense doesn't really run through a big man down low.

DJ Burns is 275 pounds, at least. Not sure he's a good comp to Amadou, who's generously listed at 210 after being listed at 190 in high school, or Parham, also listed at 210.

I'm less worried about the lack of size on offense than I am on defense. UConn, Creighton, St. John's, Providence, etc., aren't going to stop landing "true" centers.




Its DJOver

Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 09:58:51 AM
DJ Burns is 275 pounds, at least. Not sure he's a good comp to Amadou, who's generously listed at 210 after being listed at 190 in high school, or Parham, also listed at 210.

I'm less worried about the lack of size on offense than I am on defense. UConn, Creighton, St. John's, Providence, etc., aren't going to stop landing "true" centers.

PC just landed a 7' 285 lb center. Doubt he has the footwork of someone like Burns, but that is a large body that is going to be have to be guarded by someone. On the flip-side, he's going to have to guard Ben out to the 3 point line.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 09:58:51 AM
DJ Burns is 275 pounds, at least. Not sure he's a good comp to Amadou, who's generously listed at 210 after being listed at 190 in high school, or Parham, also listed at 210.

I'm less worried about the lack of size on offense than I am on defense. UConn, Creighton, St. John's, Providence, etc., aren't going to stop landing "true" centers.

And we won't stop beating them our way.

We'll find out how much they like Hamilton in the next few weeks. If they don't add a center I think it's safe to assume they are quite high on him.
VIOLENCE!

MUbiz

Quote from: Its DJOver on April 12, 2024, 10:03:54 AM
PC just landed a 7' 285 lb center. Doubt he has the footwork of someone like Burns, but that is a large body that is going to be have to be guarded by someone. On the flip-side, he's going to have to guard Ben out to the 3 point line.

PC also added a 7ft true freshman center on top of the 7ft 285 pound guy in the portal.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on April 12, 2024, 09:58:51 AM
DJ Burns is 275 pounds, at least. Not sure he's a good comp to Amadou, who's generously listed at 210 after being listed at 190 in high school, or Parham, also listed at 210.

I'm less worried about the lack of size on offense than I am on defense. UConn, Creighton, St. John's, Providence, etc., aren't going to stop landing "true" centers.

Caedin Hamilton was listed at 235 this year.  He has a whole off season to bulk up.  Plus you know, he might "shoot up" a couple of inches.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MUbiz on April 12, 2024, 10:09:31 AM
PC also added a 7ft true freshman center on top of the 7ft 285 pound guy in the portal.

From Bully Ball to Bouncer Ball

Pakuni

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 12, 2024, 10:05:03 AM
And we won't stop beating them our way.

You mean, with multiple players 6'10" and above on the roster?
OK.

Big Papi

We need an experienced point guard and a center and you can add another consistent 3-point shooter as a minor need.  None have to be all-american, just solid players who can get us solid minutes. 

Since we can only add one, center seems to be the position that I would target.  I have more of a belief that Tre can elevate his game more than any of the bigs since I saw a lot of growth from beginning of the year to the end of the year.  Al didn't show me anything inside and for all the talk about Hamilton, bigs generally take a while to mature their game.  We don't have an interior post player with experience.  Gold is not an interior post player.  A portal big who can defend and score down low is sorely lacking. 

MUbiz

Quote from: Big Papi on April 12, 2024, 10:13:18 AM
We need an experienced point guard and a center and you can add another consistent 3-point shooter as a minor need.  None have to be all-american, just solid players who can get us solid minutes. 

Since we can only add one, center seems to be the position that I would target.  I have more of a belief that Tre can elevate his game more than any of the bigs since I saw a lot of growth from beginning of the year to the end of the year.  Al didn't show me anything inside and for all the talk about Hamilton, bigs generally take a while to mature their game.  We don't have an interior post player with experience.  Gold is not an interior post player.  A portal big who can defend and score down low is sorely lacking.

I agree with you Papi.

brewcity77

We'll see what happens, but if anyone is going to be departing, I don't think it's Amadou.

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