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The Sultan

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2024, 09:21:21 AM
No. You can enter the portal whenever you wish.

But students who enter after the deadline date cannot transfer and be immediately eligible correct?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 01, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
But students who enter after the deadline date cannot transfer and be immediately eligible correct?
Yes. JayBee just being Jaybee
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/eligibility_center/Transfer/DIUG_Windows.pdf
New transfer legislation passed last week by the NCAA has added a sense of urgency to the looming close of the men's and women's transfer windows, as all transfers -- even graduate transfers -- now need to be in the portal by the close of their sports' windows.

Previously, graduate transfers didn't need to adhere to transfer window dates and could enter the portal at any time. For example, Cam Spencer left Rutgers in June and committed to UConn, ultimately helping lead the Huskies to their second straight national championship.

Last week's transfer legislation, however, included the elimination of the graduate transfer exception. and that has caught players and coaches by surprise.

"Student-athletes who plan to enroll as graduate students at their next school can enter the portal at any time during the academic year but must enter the portal prior to the conclusion of their respective sports' final transfer windows," the NCAA wrote in a news release.

The new rule, approved by the Division I board of directors on Monday, applies to all sports and is effective immediately, the NCAA confirmed to ESPN.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 01, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
But students who enter after the deadline date cannot transfer and be immediately eligible correct?

Correct,  though we'll see how much stomach the NCAA has for enforcing it
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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Jay Bee

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 01, 2024, 09:45:52 AM
But students who enter after the deadline date cannot transfer and be immediately eligible correct?

False. The deadline and "window" is simply a notification window. They must tell their current school by that date (eg today). This notification allows an @"ez pass" to immediate eligibility.

Now, if a coach leaves, a program closes shop, etc - then kids can get an ez pass as well.

The big question is — will we see a number of kids who didn't notify come to the ncaa via a new school in the future and cry for a waiver?  I'm certain we'll see some - how will the ncaa react? They've already folded a lot, so we'll see.
The portal is NOT closed.

jfp61

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2024, 12:52:22 PM
They've already folded a lot, so we'll see.

Because the NCAA is realizing they have no legal standing to opperate in anyway that they have in the past.

NCAA will continue to "fold" because if they don't there will no longer be an NCAA.


lawdog77

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2024, 12:52:22 PM
False. The deadline and "window" is simply a notification window. They must tell their current school by that date (eg today). This notification allows an @"ez pass" to immediate eligibility.

Now, if a coach leaves, a program closes shop, etc - then kids can get an ez pass as well.

The big question is — will we see a number of kids who didn't notify come to the ncaa via a new school in the future and cry for a waiver?  I'm certain we'll see some - how will the ncaa react? They've already folded a lot, so we'll see.
They are still not "immediately eligible", they have to request a waiver.

On a side note, I wonder if a college fires a coach mid season, if those SA's could request a waiver to play immediately.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: jfp61 on May 01, 2024, 12:55:32 PM
Because the NCAA is realizing they have no legal standing to opperate in anyway that they have in the past.

NCAA will continue to "fold" because if they don't there will no longer be an NCAA.

I was surprised they stood firm on their rulings for Dingle and Ledlum
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Herman Cain

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 01, 2024, 01:49:42 PM
I was surprised they stood firm on their rulings for Dingle and Ledlum
The NCAA rule is a player is allowed 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. What happened is the NCAA declared that 2020-21 did not count toward a year of eligibility. They never actually granted 5 years as some media outlets erroneously state. Yes some players did play 5 years because their league played in 2020-21 but the Ivy League didnt.

So in Dingle and Ledlum case , they started in 2019-20 , did not play in 2020-21 because Ivy League had no season, and then competed in 21-22, 22-23, and 23-24.

So from NCAA standpoint Dingle and Ledlum  got their  5 to play 4 . Another way of looking at this, is if Dingle and Ledlum where freshman in 2020-21 they would still have another year of eligibility this season.

It will be interesting to see if they win the Anti Trust element of their case, could that open the door to unlimited years of eligibility?
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Jay Bee

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 01, 2024, 01:08:32 PM
They are still not "immediately eligible", they have to request a waiver.

On a side note, I wonder if a college fires a coach mid season, if those SA's could request a waiver to play immediately.

Ez pass. They are stated exceptions. #EZpass
The portal is NOT closed.

Nukem2

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 01, 2024, 02:28:23 PM
The NCAA rule is a player is allowed 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. What happened is the NCAA declared that 2020-21 did not count toward a year of eligibility. They never actually granted 5 years as some media outlets erroneously state. Yes some players did play 5 years because their league played in 2020-21 but the Ivy League didnt.

So in Dingle and Ledlum case , they started in 2019-20 , did not play in 2020-21 because Ivy League had no season, and then competed in 21-22, 22-23, and 23-24.

So from NCAA standpoint Dingle and Ledlum  got their  5 to play 4 . Another way of looking at this, is if Dingle and Ledlum where freshman in 2020-21 they would still have another year of eligibility this season.

It will be interesting to see if they win the Anti Trust element of their case, could that open the door to unlimited years of eligibility?
But anyone who redshirted in 20-21 is seemingly eligible for the covid season?

SaveOD238

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 01, 2024, 02:28:23 PM
It will be interesting to see if they win the Anti Trust element of their case, could that open the door to unlimited years of eligibility?

Now THAT would be the end of college sports as we know it.

wisblue

Does anyone have any idea how many power conference programs have had no players enter the portal and, as of today, have not added anyone from the portal?

MUbiz

Quote from: wisblue on May 01, 2024, 04:35:55 PM
Does anyone have any idea how many power conference programs have had no players enter the portal and, as of today, have not added anyone from the portal?

I don't know today, but here was the list in April.

There are seven D1 teams that don't have any players in the transfer portal as of April 24:

Kansas
Marquette
Colgate
Army
Navy
Binghamton
South Alabama

tower912

Kansas has Storrs.  Therefore, MU is the only high major to neither lose a player to the portal nor sign a player in the portal.

Yay, MU!
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Quote from: tower912 on May 01, 2024, 05:22:32 PM
Kansas has Storrs.  Therefore, MU is the only high major to neither lose a player to the portal nor sign a player in the portal.

Yay, MU!

Kansas has landed 4 transfers.  Besides Storr, they are Zeke Mayo, Riley Kugel, and Rylan Griffen.

tower912

Thanks.  Still leaves MU all alone in the high major, no transfers out, no transfers in category.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: tower912 on May 01, 2024, 05:36:34 PM
Thanks.  Still leaves MU all alone in the high major, no transfers out, no transfers in category.

We're number 1! We're number 1!
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

mugrad_89

Arthur Kaluma back in the portal again.

tower912

Time to make it a drinking game, a la Markus only being 17.    Every time the announcers mention that MU is the only high major to completely sit out the transfer portal during the offseason, drink.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: tower912 on May 01, 2024, 07:34:01 PM
Time to make it a drinking game, a la Markus only being 17.    Every time the announcers mention that MU is the only high major to completely sit out the transfer portal during the offseason, drink.

Don't jinx us. Lots of time b/w now and November.
The portal is NOT closed.

lawdog77

Quote from: Jay Bee on May 01, 2024, 07:44:38 PM
Don't jinx us. Lots of time b/w now and November.
I don't see us dropping majors, dropping our program, or Shaka getting fired, so we're good.

tower912

JB, you are right.  A lot of golf left to play.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Jay Bee

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 01, 2024, 07:54:50 PM
I don't see us dropping majors, dropping our program, or Shaka getting fired, so we're good.

You're missing certain scenarios; some of which are not far fetched in the slightest my g
The portal is NOT closed.

brewcity77

Walk on Jack Anderson finally made it official, transferring to Marquette. D3 player.

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