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muwarrior69

Quote from: nyg on March 03, 2024, 01:47:20 PM
https://www.si.com/college/gonzaga/basketball/ncaa-shortens-transfer-portal-for-college-basketball-to-45-days

They should have made the rule start after the NCAAT. Not sure how many Players on E8 or FF teams transfer but they are at a disadvantage time wise and there is no way a rotation player would announce while their team is still playing without causing significant team moral problems.

Chones left early because the rules in place were followed. If big NIL money is being wagged at players today it could happen even while their team is playing.

warriorchick

I can't wait to see if Indiana State's Robbie Avila (aka Cream Abdul Jabbar) transfers.




Also, I see he is listed at 6'10", 240 lbs.  I am calling BS on that.  That dude is chonky.  Imagine if he had the benefit of a real strength and conditioning program.
Have some patience, FFS.

The Sultan

Quote from: warriorchick on March 03, 2024, 02:46:06 PM
I can't wait to see if Indiana State's Robbie Avila (aka Cream Abdul Jabbar) transfers.




Also, I see he is listed at 6'10", 240 lbs.  I am calling BS on that.  That dude is chonky.  Imagine if he had the benefit of a real strength and conditioning program.

Indiana State doesn't have a real strength and conditioning program?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

warriorchick

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 03, 2024, 02:50:25 PM
Indiana State doesn't have a real strength and conditioning program?

Probably not compared to what would be available to him at a Power 6 program.
Have some patience, FFS.

El Guerrero 2

Al isn't going anywhere. He's just a freshman who needs time to fill out his body, similar to Oso.

LAZER

Quote from: warriorchick on March 03, 2024, 02:46:06 PM
I can't wait to see if Indiana State's Robbie Avila (aka Cream Abdul Jabbar) transfers.




Also, I see he is listed at 6'10", 240 lbs.  I am calling BS on that.  That dude is chonky.  Imagine if he had the benefit of a real strength and conditioning program.
Decent chance Schertz takes a better job, so Avila definitely could be in the portal.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on March 03, 2024, 12:34:13 PM
If Sean is still out, I'd like to see us add an experienced PG from the portal.

Wonder if the freshman PG at ND has had enough of that garbage program. He's good.

bilsu

Quote from: Viper on March 03, 2024, 11:42:43 AM
conjecture by me...I see Amadou going one of two ways...RS similar to Sacar Anim a few years back, or he's assisted in finding a program more suitable to his talent level so Shaka can bargain in the portal.
I like Amadou. However, not seeing any time in a game where Oso did not play does not bold well.
I think we need a point guard from the portal. It would be different, if Sean Jones did not get hurt.

Tyler COLEk

Al's played 52 minutes so far this year, 14 more than the freshman season of the All-Big East forward starting for MU.

The Sultan

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 03, 2024, 07:54:14 PM
Al's played 52 minutes so far this year, 14 more than the freshman season of the All-Big East forward starting for MU.

And?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

CountryRoads

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 03, 2024, 07:54:14 PM
Al's played 52 minutes so far this year, 14 more than the freshman season of the All-Big East forward starting for MU.

The COVID year was very unique to say the least and not sure it can be compared to this year much. It's disappointing Al saw zero minutes this year in a game that wasn't already decided. I pegged him as a likely transfer candidate, although it's good for a team to have a "program guy" or two since it's usually unhealthy culture wise to have 13 players who all think they should starters so we'll see what happens. He sounded like a good kid on the radio show with high expectations for himself (wants to be better than Oso), so I'm pulling for him to achieve that. 

TAMU, Knower of Ball

My guess is that our starting PG forn next season is already on the roster
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Tyler COLEk

#37
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 03, 2024, 08:08:53 PM
And?

Fans should think twice before giving up on a player after his freshman season.

The Sultan

Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 03, 2024, 11:56:14 PM
Fans should think twice before giving up on a player after his freshman season.

So every time a freshman disappoints, we are going to point out the one Oso instead of the dozens of Keeyans?
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lawdog77

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 03:24:27 AM
So every time a freshman disappoints, we are going to point out the one Oso instead of the dozens of Keeyans?
I would suggest not being disappointed by a freshman's productivity. It would save one from a lot of angst and arguing.

Biggie Clausen

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 03:24:27 AM
So every time a freshman disappoints, we are going to point out the one Oso instead of the dozens of Keeyans?

Well, every time Wojo disappointed during his first five years, Scoop pointed out the one Jay Wright instead of the dozens of coaches who...well, let's face it, were still probably better than Wojo, but ultimately were failures.  So I guess it's par for the course.

tower912

Keeyan found a nice place to land.  I expected Amadou to play 5 a game this year.   I was wrong.    Just like I was wrong about Keeyan.   I hope Amadou stays.   I see potential.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 03:24:27 AM
So every time a freshman disappoints, we are going to point out the one Oso instead of the dozens of Keeyans?

Anyone that considers Al a disappointment this season didn't have realistic expectations.

El Guerrero 2

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 03:24:27 AM
So every time a freshman disappoints, we are going to point out the one Oso instead of the dozens of Keeyans?

Keeyan is going to be a really nice player in a year or two. He would have started here eventually and if he sticks at NKU he's going to be dominant. He just didn't want to wait in line, which is fair.

Shooter McGavin

#44
Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2024, 06:43:30 AM
Keeyan found a nice place to land.  I expected Amadou to play 5 a game this year.   I was wrong.    Just like I was wrong about Keeyan.   I hope Amadou stays.   I see potential.

I agree.  I see potential as well (mostly length and athleticism and rumors he had a decent shooting stroke from three in highschool) albeit in an extremely small sample size.  I was not able to even go to an open practice.  I guess it will come down to roster construction and hard conversations if Shaka is not seeing it in practice.  Worth keeping around another year IMO to see what develops over next summer.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Al was always a project.  Started playing organized basketball relatively late.  Nothing wrong with having a couple development projects at the end of the bench, like Al and Caedin.

Give Al another year and see how he develops.  A year from now we will have a better idea how he stacks up with Parham and Hamilton.  Often, players either make the rotation by year 3 or transfer to find playing time.  We'll see how things play out.

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on March 04, 2024, 05:08:53 AM
I would suggest not being disappointed by a freshman's productivity.

I'm not disappointed in the least. But he didn't play at all in a game where we were shorthanded at the post, and anytime he has played has been in garbage time. I am just being realistic about where I think he projects to be.


Quote from: tower912 on March 04, 2024, 06:43:30 AM
Keeyan found a nice place to land.  I expected Amadou to play 5 a game this year.   I was wrong.    Just like I was wrong about Keeyan.   I hope Amadou stays.   I see potential.

If Shaka wants him to stay, I hope he stays and proves me wrong.
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zcg2013

When Al was on the MU basketball hour he discussed how he knew the plan this year was development.

We R Final Four

So because he doesn't a lot as a freshman he's transferring?
1. Oso
2. Ben
3. Jop
That has been the order this year. Because Al didnt slide into the 3 spot when Oso was suck means very little. He wasn't asked to do much this year.

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 04, 2024, 07:47:46 AM
If Shaka wants him to stay, I hope he stays

This is where I'm at, too. Given the way players have developed so far during Shaka's time at Marquette, it's become easy for me to give our coach the benefit of the doubt in these situations.

If Amadou transfers, it will be because either Shaka suggested he do so, because he got impatient waiting, or both.

But as you said, if Shaka wants him to stay and he's willing to be patient, I want him to stay because that probably means there's something there.
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