St. Thomas game on FS1

[Spotcheck Billy]

Best d1 school in Minnesota, buddy

... and they have beaten Marquette 3 times already!

[WhiteTrash]

As I recall it was really just timing. The TV deal that included TCU fell apart over the summer of 2011, Pitt & Syracuse announced they were leaving in late 2011, followed by West Virginia. TCU flipped their commitment and joined the Big 12. In response, the league went crazy, inviting Memphis, Temple, UCF, Boise, San Diego State, basically anyone with a pulse.

Commissioner John Marinatto was forced out in spring and it was clear the league was in turmoil. Right after, Louisville said they were leaving. In September, Notre Dame came to their agreement with the ACC. The remaining schools tried to keep it together, but Rutgers went to the B10, Louisville made it official, and finally in December the C7 had enough and split.

I've heard that had the C7 left sooner, Notre Dame might have went with them and stayed independent in football. But the ship was sinking and they took the first lifeboat, not realizing another would be available.

Good summary. It was a scarry time especially when Dayton and the A10 rejected all our applications for admittance. 

[Coleman]

As I recall it was really just timing. The TV deal that included TCU fell apart over the summer of 2011, Pitt & Syracuse announced they were leaving in late 2011, followed by West Virginia. TCU flipped their commitment and joined the Big 12. In response, the league went crazy, inviting Memphis, Temple, UCF, Boise, San Diego State, basically anyone with a pulse.

Commissioner John Marinatto was forced out in spring and it was clear the league was in turmoil. Right after, Louisville said they were leaving. In September, Notre Dame came to their agreement with the ACC. The remaining schools tried to keep it together, but Rutgers went to the B10, Louisville made it official, and finally in December the C7 had enough and split.

I've heard that had the C7 left sooner, Notre Dame might have went with them and stayed independent in football. But the ship was sinking and they took the first lifeboat, not realizing another would be available.

Good timeline, this is the answer.

Notre Dame made their decision to leave an imploding Big East before the C7 intervened. The decision made a lot of sense for them at the time. Might the current Big East have been a better fit for them? Arguably. But that had not even been established yet. You can't fault Notre Dame for jumping to the first semi-stable power conference that would allow them to keep football independent.

[Carl]

It seems like forever ago but I believe the first domino to fall was Nebraska to the Big10. There was a lot of blustering and talk of movement within the Big12, with Missouri publicly announcing it wanted to join the Big10 if I recall correctly, but then Nebraska actually left and Pandora's box was opened

[The Sultan]

It seems like forever ago but I believe the first domino to fall was Nebraska to the Big10. There was a lot of blustering and talk of movement within the Big12, with Missouri publicly announcing it wanted to join the Big10 if I recall correctly, but then Nebraska actually left and Pandora's box was opened

Conference instability really dates back to the early 1990s with Penn State joining the Big Ten, FSU joining the ACC, South Carolina and Arkansas joining the SEC, and the Big 8 merging with four SWC schools to form the Big 12.

[WhiteTrash]

Conference instability really dates back to the early 1990s with Penn State joining the Big Ten, FSU joining the ACC, South Carolina and Arkansas joining the SEC, and the Big 8 merging with four SWC schools to form the Big 12.

Am I wrong but wasn't Penn State turned down by the Big East?

[MUbiz]

Am I wrong but wasn't Penn State turned down by the Big East?

You are correct: https://onwardstate.com/2017/01/11/penn-states-greatest-gift-getting-rejected-by-the-big-east/

[WhiteTrash]

I blame University of Chicago leaving the Big10 for all of this. 

[Tyler COLEk]

You are correct: https://onwardstate.com/2017/01/11/penn-states-greatest-gift-getting-rejected-by-the-big-east/

[Dickthedribbler]

Do the Tommies have something that passes as a basketball message board?? I can't seem to find anything. If these guys envision going big time, their fans need a place to go in order to rip and malign their opponents.

[MU82]

Do the Tommies have something that passes as a basketball message board?? I can't seem to find anything. If these guys envision going big time, their fans need a place to go in order to rip and malign their opponents.

And each other.

Especially each other.

[PointWarrior]

and monitor their campus safety....

And each other.

Especially each other.

[WarriorFan]

ST Thomas = Bradley

How?

The media market in MSP for Buckets is not as big as you'd think.  Most would rather watch an IHL replay from 1999 than basketball.  Never say never, but Harvard will admit polar bears (white ones) before St. Thomas joins the Big East.

[NCMUFan]

St. Thomas looks like a good warm up before the BEAST conference schedule begins.
Give the MU bench more minutes.

[MUFC9295]

This is all backwards.   Clearly the superior Athletics and Marketing departments at St Thomas have already made inroads to the MKE market by agreeing to play Marquette for a fee. 

[Daniel]

This is all backwards.   Clearly the superior Athletics and Marketing departments at St Thomas have already made inroads to the MKE market by agreeing to play Marquette for a fee.

How much do visiting teams get for a buy game?

[MUbiz]

How much do visiting teams get for a buy game?

From what I have seen reported, a P6 team will pay anywhere from 75k-125k for a buy game.

[MUbiz]

Here is some numbers:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1592349573665943552?t=aPCqcxbjRbLHAAkiWsnljQ&s=19

This is from 2014 but still around that 75-125k per game mark:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/544928865425293313?t=Jwb1aKG3EyfdG7n3r6HWRw&s=19

[MuggsyB]

St. Thomas beat Chicago State 66-50. There are no gimmies.  Attack.  Focus.  Dominate.  And from the opening tip.

[PGsHeroes32]

St. Thomas beat Chicago State 66-50. There are no gimmies.  Attack.  Focus.  Dominate.  And from the opening tip.

Why are you referencing them beating Chicago State lol. Not our fault NU laid an egg.

Chicago State is brutal. Tommies beating them by 16 is normal.

[MuggsyB]

Why are you referencing them beating Chicago State lol. Not our fault NU laid an egg.

Chicago State is brutal. Tommies beating them by 16 is normal.

It's just a reminder that eggs can happen.  I fully expect we will take care or business. 

[Daniel]

Here is some numbers:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1592349573665943552?t=aPCqcxbjRbLHAAkiWsnljQ&s=19

This is from 2014 but still around that 75-125k per game mark:
https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/544928865425293313?t=Jwb1aKG3EyfdG7n3r6HWRw&s=19

Ty MUBIZ - that's a nice chunk of change for a small school to get even after travel expenses etc.  Ty

[tower912]

St. Thomas beat Chicago State 66-50. There are no gimmies.  Attack.  Focus.  Dominate.  And from the opening tip.

Chicago St beat Northwestern.
Northwestern beat Purdue.
Purdue beat MU.

Transitive law means St. Thomas by 20.

[Dr. Blackheart]

It's just a reminder that eggs can happen.  I fully expect we will take care or business.

MU laid a Badger egg

[Hards Alumni]

Every campus needs an ugly Brutalist-style relic to remind college leadership to never make that mistake again.

It isn't Brutalist.  It's hideous, but it's not Brutalist.