St. Thomas game on FS1

[MUEng92]

Moving from one cupcake to the next, I'm shocked the game against St. Thomas is actually on FS1.  I'm surprised it's on TV at all.  I just discovered via google that they are Division 1.  I thought they were still Division 3

[Shaka Shart]

Soon to be in the big east

[Silkk the Shaka]

Moving from one cupcake to the next, I'm shocked the game against St. Thomas is actually on FS1.  I'm surprised it's on TV at all.  I just discovered via google that they are Division 1.  I thought they were still Division 3

[Newsdreams]

Soon to be in the big east

Darn right!

[mugrad_89]

If there was ever a game that screamed CBS Sports Network, this is it.

[Jay Bee]

Moving from one cupcake to the next, I'm shocked the game against St. Thomas is actually on FS1.  I'm surprised it's on TV at all.  I just discovered via google that they are Division 1.  I thought they were still Division 3

Best d1 school in Minnesota, buddy

[Newsdreams]

Best d1 school in Minnesota, buddy

JB Truly facts

[GB Warrior]

The line for this game is about the same as ND

[The Sultan]

They're right about where Southern and Rider are on Kenpom.

Considering they were a D3 program just a few years ago, they have made some nice progress. They have plenty of resources as a school too. But the road in front of them is way harder than the one behind them.

[TheTulsaWarrior]

The Tommy's have some money alums with some significant money and big dreams. 

[The Sultan]

The Tommy's have some money alums with some significant money and big dreams. 

So do a lot of schools.

[Badgerhater]

The Tommy's have some money alums with some significant money and big dreams.

I am native to MN and still keep up on the MN sports scene.   St Thomas and the local sports media EXPECT them to join the Big East, it's not a dream or longing aspiration, but a righteous expectation.

MU needs to go all Notre Dame on them and show them the ocean-sized chasm between them and the Big East.

[MU82]

I am native to MN and still keep up on the MN sports scene.   St Thomas and the local sports media EXPECT them to join the Big East, it's not a dream or longing aspiration, but a righteous expectation.

MU needs to go all Notre Dame on them and show them the ocean-sized chasm between them and the Big East.

Good thing the Tommies aren't playing DePaul or Georgetown. After the win, they'd have thought they were already in the Big East.

[Galway Eagle]

I am native to MN and still keep up on the MN sports scene.   St Thomas and the local sports media EXPECT them to join the Big East, it's not a dream or longing aspiration, but a righteous expectation.

MU needs to go all Notre Dame on them and show them the ocean-sized chasm between them and the Big East.

Out of curiosity what's the timeline in their view? Like do they expect it next expansion or do they think that they're one big hire away from building into Gonzaga and that they could turn that into a bid? (Reasonable)

[Badgerhater]

Out of curiosity what's the timeline in their view? Like do they expect it next expansion or do they think that they're one big hire away from building into Gonzaga and that they could turn that into a bid? (Reasonable)

Next expansion.   And the Big East is going to beg them to join.

[Galway Eagle]

Next expansion.   And the Big East is going to beg them to join.

Oh wow. I didn't think any fanbase was that insane.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Oh wow. I didn't think any fanbase was that insane.

Dayton says hi

[Goatherder]

Oh wow. I didn't think any fanbase was that insane.

Maybe not so much.  They got kicked out of their D3 conference and petitioned the NCAA to get a waiver to immediately go to D1 rather than take
years to move through the ranks.  The Summit League went to bat for them because they wanted the MSP market.  They have about 6,000 and as noted a fair number of rich and influential alums.  They have some impressive facilities and the reason they got kicked out of their conference was not just for dominating football, but dominating in general.  They have held their own in the Summit and are playing a better D1 schedule than many, including our neighbor in Shorewood.  Unlike Dayton, they are not near Xavier and have not made a bunch of enemies, and the MSP market might be a good thing.  Perhaps a longshot, but not crazy.  Curiously, they did not join the Summit in football which would have made sense since they already play all the Dakota schools.  They play in the (I think) non-scholarship Pioneer League, so they could park their football team there and play everything else in the Big East.

[Badgerhater]

Maybe not so much.  They got kicked out of their D3 conference and petitioned the NCAA to get a waiver to immediately go to D1 rather than take
years to move through the ranks.  The Summit League went to bat for them because they wanted the MSP market.  They have about 6,000 and as noted a fair number of rich and influential alums.  They have some impressive facilities and the reason they got kicked out of their conference was not just for dominating football, but dominating in general.  They have held their own in the Summit and are playing a better D1 schedule than many, including our neighbor in Shorewood.  Unlike Dayton, they are not near Xavier and have not made a bunch of enemies, and the MSP market might be a good thing.  Perhaps a longshot, but not crazy.  Curiously, they did not join the Summit in football which would have made sense since they already play all the Dakota schools.  They play in the (I think) non-scholarship Pioneer League, so they could park their football team there and play everything else in the Big East.

The Summit-league Dakota schools play in the Missouri Valley Football Conference.  That league is the SEC of FCS.

As an aside, Villanova plays FCS and lost yesterday to #1 South Dakota State in the playoffs.

[The Sultan]

Maybe not so much.  They got kicked out of their D3 conference and petitioned the NCAA to get a waiver to immediately go to D1 rather than take
years to move through the ranks.  The Summit League went to bat for them because they wanted the MSP market.  They have about 6,000 and as noted a fair number of rich and influential alums.  They have some impressive facilities and the reason they got kicked out of their conference was not just for dominating football, but dominating in general.  They have held their own in the Summit and are playing a better D1 schedule than many, including our neighbor in Shorewood.  Unlike Dayton, they are not near Xavier and have not made a bunch of enemies, and the MSP market might be a good thing.  Perhaps a longshot, but not crazy.  Curiously, they did not join the Summit in football which would have made sense since they already play all the Dakota schools.  They play in the (I think) non-scholarship Pioneer League, so they could park their football team there and play everything else in the Big East.

It's not simply a long short, it is absolutely crazy to think that they would be on the radar for the BE during the next expansion or anytime in the next couple of decades.

They are in a one-bid league. They average 1,200 fans per game. They have won absolutely nothing.

What would possibly make them more attractive than A10 schools such Loyola, St. Louis or Dayton? All of whom would bend over backwards for a BE invite and don't seem to be close to an invite.

[duanewade]

Maybe not so much.  They got kicked out of their D3 conference and petitioned the NCAA to get a waiver to immediately go to D1 rather than take
years to move through the ranks.  The Summit League went to bat for them because they wanted the MSP market.  They have about 6,000 and as noted a fair number of rich and influential alums.  They have some impressive facilities and the reason they got kicked out of their conference was not just for dominating football, but dominating in general.  They have held their own in the Summit and are playing a better D1 schedule than many, including our neighbor in Shorewood.  Unlike Dayton, they are not near Xavier and have not made a bunch of enemies, and the MSP market might be a good thing.  Perhaps a longshot, but not crazy.  Curiously, they did not join the Summit in football which would have made sense since they already play all the Dakota schools.  They play in the (I think) non-scholarship Pioneer League, so they could park their football team there and play everything else in the Big East.

Using the logic that any college that happens to be in a major city will deliver the mass numbers in that market... then let's add Detroit Mercy, Duquesne, Regis and Loyola Marymount too. 🕺

Imagine all the tv sets we could get with significant markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Denver and LA all added to the conference. 🕺🙄

The bottom line is if St. Thomas ever gets a whif of serious consideration to the Big East it just means our worst  nightmares have developed and the Big East has imploded.  Under this scenario football has formed their own tournament and/or all the NE Big East Schools have been absorbed into the ACC or Big 12 and Marquette has been left behind. Only then there is a merger between the Atlantic 10 and remaining Big East teams and crappy no name programs like St. Thomas are also considered. 🤷‍♂️

This would be the MCC all over again and the death of Marquette basketball as we know it.

[IrwinFletcher]

Moving from one cupcake to the next, I'm shocked the game against St. Thomas is actually on FS1.  I'm surprised it's on TV at all.  I just discovered via google that they are Division 1.  I thought they were still Division 3

There are only a handful of games scheduled throughout the NCAA on this date.  Therefore, it is the only game that FS1 could have scheduled on this night.

[The Sultan]

Using the logic that any college that happens to be in a major city will deliver the mass numbers in that market... then let's add Detroit Mercy, Duquesne, Regis and Loyola Marymount too. 🕺

Imagine all the tv sets we could get with significant markets like Detroit, Pittsburgh, Denver and LA all added to the conference. 🕺🙄

The bottom line is if St. Thomas ever gets a whif of serious consideration to the Big East it just means our worst  nightmares have developed and the Big East has imploded.  Under this scenario football has formed their own tournament and/or all the NE Big East Schools have been absorbed into the ACC or Big 12 and Marquette has been left behind. Only then there is a merger between the Atlantic 10 and remaining Big East teams and crappy no name programs like St. Thomas are also considered. 🤷‍♂️

This would be the MCC all over again and the death of Marquette basketball as we know it.

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Or they could have a Gonzaga like ascendance.  But I doubt that's happening.

[Badgerhater]

I decided to take a look at the Tommies website and found the following factual but completely misleading delusion:

"[Coach] Tauer's winning percentage of .740 ranks 13th among active head coaches across all of NCAA with at least 10 years of experience. The only head coaches at their current NCAA DI programs for at least 10 seasons with a higher winning percentage than Tauer are John Calipari (Kentucky), Mark Few (Gonzaga), and Bill Self (Kansas)."

[real chili 83]

Keep investing in the program, hire the right coach, and keep some of the local talent in town. Mix in some good NIL mula.

Not saying it will happen, but that path is not out of reach.

MU playing in MSP once a year would be a very good thing for them...on a lot of levels.