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jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on January 08, 2024, 05:39:09 PM
1. What you conveniently fail to mention is that it's the Israeli government, not the PA, that has declared it illegal for Israelis to enter Ramallah. Claiming that this is evidence of ethnic cleansing by Palestinians is obviously dishonest.
2. What you also conveniently fail to mention is that, according to the link you shared, Israelis regularly visit Ramallah nonetheless, without being killed.
3. Could you cite some examples of Israeli visitors being kidnapped in Ramallah and needing rescue by the IDF, as this article suggests is a certain outcome? Genuinely curious.

Careful, asking for sources is frowned upon.

You're better to just make a claim and act all indignant when someone asks for evidence

MU82

Unsurprisingly, the antisemitic druggie Musk is blaming the media - in this case the radical left-wing rag that is the Wall Street Journal - for reporting his long history of drug use.

Meanwhile, on his money-bleeding, Jew-hater-filled social media site, the antisemite is accusing Mark Cuban of being racist.

Scoop's self-professed antisemite police? Crickets.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 08, 2024, 08:03:17 AM
"I don't care about the culture war"

Man, I haven't seen someone dick ride someone this hard in some time.  And I watch quite a few KC Chiefs games.



Bravo to Ackman for pushing back. Not many in this country are willing to stick their dick out for what's right and just, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 08, 2024, 08:10:47 PM
Not many in this country are willing to stick their dick out for what's right and just, hey?

You're right. Some folks even support violent seditionists who attack the United States, injuring 100+ police officers in the process. Hard to believe, I know.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WellsstreetWanderer

 Name one person who has been charged with sedition
I don't condone what happened but the rhetoric is hyperbolic. No single charge for sedition or insurrection has been made but that doesn't stop some from parroting the tale.

jesmu84

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 08, 2024, 10:44:01 PM
Name one person who has been charged with sedition
I don't condone what happened but the rhetoric is hyperbolic. No single charge for sedition or insurrection has been made but that doesn't stop some from parroting the tale.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-reaches-verdict-second-jan-6-trial-oath-keepers-facing-sedition-charges-2023-01-23/

Pakuni

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 08, 2024, 10:44:01 PM
Name one person who has been charged with sedition
I don't condone what happened but the rhetoric is hyperbolic. No single charge for sedition or insurrection has been made but that doesn't stop some from parroting the tale.

In all, 14 members of the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys have been convicted or pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy, a charge that carries a sentence of up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.voanews.com/a/jury-convicts-proud-boys-members-of-seditious-conspiracy-in-us-capitol-attack/7078870.html

MU82

Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on January 08, 2024, 10:44:01 PM
Name one person who has been charged with sedition
I don't condone what happened but the rhetoric is hyperbolic. No single charge for sedition or insurrection has been made but that doesn't stop some from parroting the tale.

I can't name just one. I can name many.

Such as these 4 Oath Keepers - charged, tried, convicted and sentenced for seditious conspiracy ...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-additional-oath-keepers-sentenced-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach#:~:text=Four%20Additional%20Oath%20Keepers%20Sentenced%20for%20Seditious%20Conspiracy%20Related%20to%20U.S.%20Capitol%20Breach,-Friday%2C%20June%202&text=Four%20members%20of%20the%20Oath,6%2C%202021.

And these 4 Proud Boys - also charged, tried, convicted and sentenced for seditious conspiracy ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/04/us/politics/jan-6-proud-boys-sedition.html

Seditionists one and all. There's a good start for you. I invite you to do some googling because there are plenty more.

Anyway, I'm seriously glad to hear that you (unlike our dentists) don't condone what happened on one of the darkest days in American history - a day that featured seditionists staging a violent coup attempt against America at the behest of the then-president.

Oh, and that "law and order" president is vowing to set these seditionists free.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

forgetful

https://www.axios.com/2024/01/08/israel-hamas-gaza-hostages-blinken-palestinians

Israel continuing to flat out admit to war crimes. In this case admitting to ethnic cleansing (forced displacement), by admitting they are refusing to allow Gazans to return to North Gaza so they can use that as a bargaining chip.

You'd think, when they are already facing war crimes charges, that they would refrain from publicly admitting to war crimes.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

With Trump busy in court - his choice; he didn't need to attend - he called on Jew-hater Marjorie Taylor Greene to campaign for him in Iowa.

But no, he's not an antisemite; he just solicits antisemites' support, dines with them, calls them great friends, lauds them for being very smart, etc.

"He loves hanging out with his racist friends and laughing at their racist jokes, but he doesn't use the n-word publicly so he's not a racist."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Heisenberg

Quote from: forgetful on January 09, 2024, 10:28:12 AM
https://www.axios.com/2024/01/08/israel-hamas-gaza-hostages-blinken-palestinians

Israel continuing to flat out admit to war crimes. In this case admitting to ethnic cleansing (forced displacement), by admitting they are refusing to allow Gazans to return to North Gaza so they can use that as a bargaining chip.

You'd think, when they are already facing war crimes charges, that they would refrain from publicly admitting to war crimes.

None of this is a war crime.

why are you desperate to get them in the position to start killing Jews again?

Pakuni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 09, 2024, 03:24:21 PM
None of this is a war crime.


Narrator voice: "It's a war crime."

In Article 49, the Fourth Geneva Convention, adopted on 12 August 1949, specifically forbade forced displacement
"Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive."

The Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court defines forced displacement as a crime within the jurisdiction of the court:
"Deportation or forcible transfer of population" means forced displacement of the people concerned by expulsion or other coercive acts from the area in which they are lawfully present, without grounds permitted under international law."

The Sultan

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on January 09, 2024, 03:24:21 PM
None of this is a war crime.

why are you desperate to get them in the position to start killing Jews again?


Ah yes.  Hyperbole. Another tool used by those who don't have the ability to debate honestly.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

Pretty sure the BOTUS is antisemitic, aina?

After the Hamas massacres of Oct. 7, the Israeli government also posited three war aims: uproot the Hamas military structure from Gaza; maintain Israeli security control over the territory; and prevent the Palestinian Authority (PA) from taking control of Gaza in a bid for a "two state solution" favored by Washington.

President Biden has been rhetorically very good on the first goal.

But rather than offering Israel the same unconditional and open-ended support Ukraine received, the U.S., with its European allies and international organizations including UNRWA, has been increasingly determined to force Israel to adopt American — rather than Israeli — aims on the other two points.

The president himself noted, "I also advised Israelis not to let their pain and anger mislead them into making mistakes we ourselves have made in the past."

The U.S. has not found itself under attack in the homeland since 2001, and – happily – never had more than 1,200 of our citizens tortured, raped, burned alive and beheaded in their own homes one night, or had hundreds – including babies –  kidnapped to hostile territory from those homes. So, it is unclear which American mistakes he believes Israel might make without U.S. "advice."

While the IDF operation was just getting started, Secretary of State Blinken told a Senate hearing that, after Israel succeeded in ousting Hamas, "What would make the most sense would be for an effective and revitalized Palestinian Authority to have governance and ultimately security responsibility for Gaza."

It is well-known that the PA uses tax revenues received through the Israeli government for salaries and payments to terrorists, including Hamas terrorists. Israel announced it would withhold the amount of the payments.

The PA replied it would receive all of the money — or accept none. Washington has demanded that Israel turn over the money.

In addition, U.S. officials encouraged Israel to use American tactics from Iraq, targeting Hamas leaders "using small teams of commandos, combined with precision strikes from drones and manned aircraft."

It should be noted that only a few months ago, the U.S. asked for "clarifications" over Israel's use of a drones to target terrorists for fear of a "potential loosening of rules of engagement in an area that needs to see de-escalation." During the Obama administration, there were 542 drone strikes, killing nearly 4,000 people.

Then, there was the "humanitarian-pause-that-is-not-a-ceasefire," although stopping military operations is the literal definition of a ceasefire. Hamas used the time to reorganize its forces and send messages to its operatives, thus increasing Israeli casualties when Hamas broke the ceasefire.

The U.S. parked a battleship off the coast of Lebanon while warning Israel not to attack Hezbollah. Presumably, Israel was to think that if Hezbollah entered the war, the U.S. would retaliate on Israel's behalf.

If it was meant to be a serious warning to Hezbollah, it failed. Hezbollah has maintained steady, if limited, rocket fire against Israeli civilians in the north.

The U.S. rejected Israel's request for Apache helicopters.

And in the most immediately horrific decision, the U.S. has refused to press Egypt to temporarily take Palestinian refugees into Sinai where they could receive food and medical care in safety. Tens of thousands of Palestinians are now trapped in southern Gaza and Israel will be forced to fight around them and their international organizational jailers.

The U.S. is providing Kiev with arms, money, and military carte blanche, with no timeline for success in pursuit of war aims that appear to be receding. The U.S. is providing Israel with rhetorical support, a lot of nagging and unsolicited "advice," and military restrictions
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 09, 2024, 06:06:42 PM

But rather than offering Israel the same unconditional and open-ended support Ukraine received, the U.S., with its European allies and international organizations including UNRWA, has been increasingly determined to force Israel to adopt American — rather than Israeli — aims on the other two points.

Summary:
Give us your weapons and your money, but don't you dare tell us not to kill civilians with them.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 09, 2024, 06:06:42 PM
Pretty sure the BOTUS is antisemitic, aina?

After the Hamas massacres of Oct. 7, the Israeli government also posited three war aims: uproot the Hamas military structure from Gaza; maintain Israeli security control over the territory; and prevent the Palestinian Authority (PA) from taking control of Gaza in a bid for a "two state solution" favored by Washington.

President Biden has been rhetorically very good on the first goal.

But rather than offering Israel the same unconditional and open-ended support Ukraine received, the U.S., with its European allies and international organizations including UNRWA, has been increasingly determined to force Israel to adopt American — rather than Israeli — aims on the other two points.

The president himself noted, "I also advised Israelis not to let their pain and anger mislead them into making mistakes we ourselves have made in the past."

The U.S. has not found itself under attack in the homeland since 2001, and – happily – never had more than 1,200 of our citizens tortured, raped, burned alive and beheaded in their own homes one night, or had hundreds – including babies –  kidnapped to hostile territory from those homes. So, it is unclear which American mistakes he believes Israel might make without U.S. "advice."

While the IDF operation was just getting started, Secretary of State Blinken told a Senate hearing that, after Israel succeeded in ousting Hamas, "What would make the most sense would be for an effective and revitalized Palestinian Authority to have governance and ultimately security responsibility for Gaza."

It is well-known that the PA uses tax revenues received through the Israeli government for salaries and payments to terrorists, including Hamas terrorists. Israel announced it would withhold the amount of the payments.

The PA replied it would receive all of the money — or accept none. Washington has demanded that Israel turn over the money.

In addition, U.S. officials encouraged Israel to use American tactics from Iraq, targeting Hamas leaders "using small teams of commandos, combined with precision strikes from drones and manned aircraft."

It should be noted that only a few months ago, the U.S. asked for "clarifications" over Israel's use of a drones to target terrorists for fear of a "potential loosening of rules of engagement in an area that needs to see de-escalation." During the Obama administration, there were 542 drone strikes, killing nearly 4,000 people.

Then, there was the "humanitarian-pause-that-is-not-a-ceasefire," although stopping military operations is the literal definition of a ceasefire. Hamas used the time to reorganize its forces and send messages to its operatives, thus increasing Israeli casualties when Hamas broke the ceasefire.

The U.S. parked a battleship off the coast of Lebanon while warning Israel not to attack Hezbollah. Presumably, Israel was to think that if Hezbollah entered the war, the U.S. would retaliate on Israel's behalf.

If it was meant to be a serious warning to Hezbollah, it failed. Hezbollah has maintained steady, if limited, rocket fire against Israeli civilians in the north.

The U.S. rejected Israel's request for Apache helicopters.

And in the most immediately horrific decision, the U.S. has refused to press Egypt to temporarily take Palestinian refugees into Sinai where they could receive food and medical care in safety. Tens of thousands of Palestinians are now trapped in southern Gaza and Israel will be forced to fight around them and their international organizational jailers.

The U.S. is providing Kiev with arms, money, and military carte blanche, with no timeline for success in pursuit of war aims that appear to be receding. The U.S. is providing Israel with rhetorical support, a lot of nagging and unsolicited "advice," and military restrictions
Pretty sure this qualifies as plagiarism. 

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 09, 2024, 07:07:12 PM
Where's Bill Ackman when we need him?
Drinking Caymus with Douchey and plotting which African American female in a position of power to take down next. 

4everwarriors

Last time I checked Sally Kornbluth was caucasian, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 09, 2024, 07:47:08 PM
Last time I checked Sally Kornbluth was caucasian, hey?

How come Ackman's wife hasn't been fired yet?  Protected class, hey?
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

forgetful

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 09, 2024, 07:51:51 PM
How come Ackman's wife hasn't been fired yet?  Protected class, hey?

To be fair. Claudine Gay wasn't fired. She resigned from being President, and is still a member of the faculty making over $900k per year.


Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 09, 2024, 07:47:08 PM
Last time I checked Sally Kornbluth was caucasian, hey?

And Jewish.
Ackman is an antisemite.

#neveragain

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