Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Mostly respectful?
Heisy and 4ever have spent the majority of this thread calling anyone who disagrees with them an anti-Semite, but this is the post you find problematic?

Duh

[Heisenberg]

Accurately describing your behavior is not a "personal attack."

Because it's not inaccurate.

So, these are not personal attacks.

Of course he does. And he has an army of online simpletons (such as yourself) that agree with him.
Regardless Harvard will be fine.

LOL...no.
Bill Ackman's account doesn't run Harvard. You are way too online and too feeble minded to realize it.

Oy. You are so dim. You realize you're making a circular argument right?
You made a statement of wild exaggeration. But when that exaggeration is pointed out, you shift the goalposts in a way that actually proves my point.
Never change Heisey. Your arguments are so easy to dismantle. A nice pastime on a lazy Saturday morning.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Although I think Hamas needs to be eliminated, I'm not a fan of this type of approach. These are assassinations on foreign soil. They are considered crimes by the international community.

It also sets the tone for other groups/countries to do the same thing, and target/assassinate other leaders they disagree with. Overall, the normalization and acceptance of these types of targeted killings/assassinations is a net negative for humanity.

Yeah as much concern as there has been about the retaliation of ME countries against Israel and its recent actions, actions like these are how this creeps closer to a reality. Drone striking Beirut is pouring gas on the fire.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

So, these are not personal attacks.

Facts don't care about your feelings

[Pakuni]

So, these are not personal attacks.

I'm not responsible for others' posts.

[Jockey]

Although I think Hamas needs to be eliminated, I'm not a fan of this type of approach. These are assassinations on foreign soil. They are considered crimes by the international community.

It also sets the tone for other groups/countries to do the same thing, and target/assassinate other leaders they disagree with. Overall, the normalization and acceptance of these types of targeted killings/assassinations is a net negative for humanity.

I disagree. This was not a leader that they disagreed with. It was a leader who planned a murderous assault and helped start a war.

I would much rather see this happen (along with dozens more) than to see an all out attack against an impoverished civilian population.

Kill the people who deserve to die rather than women and children.

[The Sultan]

So, these are not personal attacks.

Those are completely accurate descriptions of you and your arguments in this topic. Any topic really.

As I said, you are the George Costanza of Scoop. Anytime you make a prediction, the smart money is on the exact opposite occurring.

[Jockey]

Those are completely accurate descriptions of you and your arguments in this topic. Any topic really.

As I said, you are the George Costanza of Scoop. Anytime you make a prediction, the smart money is on the exact opposite occurring.

You're missing the best argument of all, Sultan.

He is utterly boring.

[MU82]

Although I think Hamas needs to be eliminated, I'm not a fan of this type of approach. These are assassinations on foreign soil. They are considered crimes by the international community.

It also sets the tone for other groups/countries to do the same thing, and target/assassinate other leaders they disagree with. Overall, the normalization and acceptance of these types of targeted killings/assassinations is a net negative for humanity.

We will respectfully agree to disagree on this, forgetful.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

https://x.com/statedeptspox/status/1742282740085424163?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

[Heisenberg]

Personal attack

Facts don't care about your feelings

Personal attack

Those are completely accurate descriptions of you and your arguments in this topic. Any topic really.

As I said, you are the George Costanza of Scoop. Anytime you make a prediction, the smart money is on the exact opposite occurring.

[The Sultan]

I'm sorry that you view "being Heisey" is a personal attack. Maybe you should be more reflective on why people feel that way about you.

[Heisenberg]

I disagree. This was not a leader that they disagreed with. It was a leader who planned a murderous assault and helped start a war.

I would much rather see this happen (along with dozens more) than to see an all out attack against an impoverished civilian population.

Kill the people who deserve to die rather than women and children.

What do you do when the leaders and their soldiers hide behind innocent civilians?

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In December 2016, when Obama was the President, ISIS was hiding in a hospital in Mosul. We attacked it and killed many innocents.

We justified it by saying we did our best to prevent innocent civilians, calling it a "precision strike."

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/07/islamic-state-iraq-mosul-hospital-airstrike-us-military

The US military has deliberately conducted an airstrike on a hospital in the Iraqi city of Mosul, it said on Wednesday, after saying its Iraqi allies came under fire by Islamic State fighters from the hospital complex.

US Central Command (Centcom) said it launched a "precision strike" on a building within the al-Salem hospital complex from which ISIS fighters had for more than a day launched "heavy" machine gun and rocket-propelled grenade fire on Iraqi forces.

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Israel claims they are doing the same. Why do we believe they are not? Who are the military experts with the explanation of how to use even more "precision" to kill Hamas but not civilians?

Hamas said 20,000 have been killed. Hamas does not differentiate between civilians and combatants. If we are going to accept their measure, then we should also accept the IDF measure that 8,000 of them were Hamas fighters (many of which were under 19, which falls into the "children" category as Hamas claims anyone under 19 is a "child.")

That means 1.5 civilians are being killed for every combatant killed. This is far and away the lowest civilian-to-combatant ratio ever recorded in a densely urban area in the history of warfare.

So why do we not praise the IDF for the "precision" instead of criticizing them?

[Heisenberg]

I'm sorry that you view "being Heisey" is a personal attack. Maybe you should be more reflective on why people feel that way about you.

It is really about 3 to 6 people. And I get at least that many DMs that encourage me, and they have "choice words" about you specifically. Hards is not far behind you.

[The Sultan]

It is really about 3 to 6 people. And I get at least that many DMs that encourage me, and they have "choice words" about you specifically.

LOL. I'm sure you do.

[Uncle Rico]

It is really about 3 to 6 people. And I get at least that many DMs that encourage me, and they have "choice words" about you specifically. Hards is not far behind you.

I get a lot of DMs from people that have choice words about you that are afraid to post here.  I got 3 today.  One was from a member of The Beatles

[Pakuni]

What do you do when the leaders and their soldiers hide behind innocent civilians?

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In December 2016, when Obama was the President, ISIS was hiding in a hospital in Mosul. We attacked it and killed many innocents.

Source?

That means 1.5 civilians are being killed for every combatant killed. This is far and away the lowest civilian-to-combatant ratio ever recorded in a densely urban area in the history of warfare.

Source?

[Jockey]

I get a lot of DMs from people that have choice words about you that are afraid to post here.  I got 3 today.  One was from a member of The Beatles

George?

[Uncle Rico]

George?

They want their identity kept private but are very concerned about what Sultan is posting

[Pakuni]

They want their identity kept private but are very concerned about what Sultan is posting

As Pete Best they should be.

[Jockey]

They want their identity kept private but are very concerned about what Sultan is posting

Did he have a tear in his eye as he told you this?

[Uncle Rico]

Did he have a tear in his eye as he told you this?

Yes, and he was a big, strong man

[Heisenberg]

Who is the bigger war criminal?

Bibi or Obama?

Or is the difference that one is a Jew and the other hates Jews?

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U.S. Bombed Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia in 2016
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-bombed-iraq-syria-pakistan-afghanistan-libya-yemen-somalia-n704636
The U.S. dropped 26,171 bombs on seven countries in 2016, according to an analysis by the Council of Foreign Relations.

The U.S. dropped an average of 72 bombs every day — the equivalent of three an hour — in 2016, according to an analysis of American strikes around the world.

The report from the Council of Foreign Relations comes as Barack Obama finishes up his presidency — one that began with promises to withdraw from international conflicts.

According to the New York City-based think tank, 26,171 bombs were dropped on Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan during the year.

CFR warned that its estimates were "undoubtedly low, considering reliable data is only available for airstrikes in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and Libya, and a single 'strike,' according to the Pentagon's definition, can involve multiple bombs or munitions."

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How about this in 2015

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/12/09/us-airstrike-hits-mosul-hospital-used-isis.html

The airstrike on the hospital was believed to be the first known incident of the U.S. deliberately targeting a medical facility in Iraq, Syria or Afghanistan.

In October 2015, a U.S. AC-130 gunship fired repeatedly on a Médecins Sans Frontières hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, which had been overrun by the Taliban. At least 42 civilians were killed.

A formal investigation by the U.S. military concluded that the Kunduz airstrike was a mistake caused by poor intelligence and poor coordination by the air and ground troops, and was not deliberate.


Pentagon: U.S. bombing of Afghanistan hospital not a 'war crime'
https://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/politics/u-s-airstrike-hospital-afghanistan-investigation/index.html

The Pentagon announced Friday that 16 military personnel will be disciplined for the deadly U.S. strike on a hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan, in October, but maintained that it was not a war crime because it resulted from unintentional human error and equipment failure.

The military said some personnel involved "failed to comply with the rules of engagement and the law of armed conflict," and that a general officer was among those facing discipline for their roles in the bombing of the Doctors Without Borders hospital.

[Heisenberg]

Source?

Source?

Good question.

According to the Iraqis, at least 100
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2016/12/08/lethal-mistake-leads-harrowing-ambush-iraq-mosul/4UeHrvZdRSct0ITQIJ4PVK/story.html

According to the US military ... they do not bother to make an official assessment. They did not find it important enough.

[Pakuni]

Good question.

According to the Iraqis, at least 100
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/world/2016/12/08/lethal-mistake-leads-harrowing-ambush-iraq-mosul/4UeHrvZdRSct0ITQIJ4PVK/story.html

According to the US military ... they do not bother to make an official assessment. They did not find it important enough.

Yet another example of you failing to read your own sources.
Nowhere in this article does it state anything about civilian casualties. And certainly nothing to back up your claim that the attack "killed many innocents."
The 100 casualties cited in the story refers to Iraqi soldiers. They were killed by ISIS fighters prior to the missile attack.
It reads:
"The Islamic State fighters eventually fought their way inside al-Salam hospital. Of the 100 or so Iraqi soldiers trapped there, nearly all were killed or wounded, he said."

Is correcting you a personal attack?