Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Jockey]

And this has what to do with the Israel conflict?

Catholic on Catholic persecution s now a thing, I guess. But we know it's the same people believing that as the people believing we are falling behind in oil production.

[JWags85]

What do Heisey's and 4ever's ceaseless obsessions with Harvard plaigirism have to do with the Israel conflict?

I mean, thats at least been a spinoff of a discussion of Harvard and antisemitism and the conflict.  That post was LITERALLY nothing to do with anything in this thread other than a Trump mention and trigger.

4ever, rocket, and NASP get pinged for doing the same by you and others all the time, I was just the first to respond here.

[4everwarriors]

Nvm

Plenty, and you can't admit the connection. Step forward with hand raised, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

[Pakuni]

Plenty, and you can't admit the connection. Step forward with hand raised, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

#poisoningtheblood

[Uncle Rico]

Plenty, and you can't admit the connection. Step forward with hand raised, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

Neither can you.  You won't condemn anti-semitism from your tribe and call them pawns.

Step forward and raise your hand, aina?

[21Jumpstreet]

October 7 was Israel's fault, they deserved it.

It is possible and debated that Israel played a role in October 7th. They most certainly did not deserve it.

[SoCalEagle]

Well, maybe they're just looking for pedophiles.  It's where I would start if I were trying to do a sting operation

Ohhhhh, that's what he meant. Okay, I guess we should be glad he's on the case.

It never ceases to amaze me how we re-interpret Trump's crazy talk for something more reasonable.

[21Jumpstreet]

It's possible the Palestinians fear if Hamas lays down their weapons, they are susceptible to occupation. It is possible the Israelis fear if the IDF lay down their weapons, they are susceptible to massacre. Solution, replace each government.

[jesmu84]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/israeli-hamas-command-center-al-shifa-hospital-falls-report-1234934784/

Investigation into al-shifa hospital

[4everwarriors]

Harvard will not be fine, hey?

https://apple.news/AL8Qy073YQgWPedh9qB2hDQ

[The Sultan]

Harvard will absolutely be fine.

[SoCalEagle]

This is like when I kept hearing that "North Carolina is in trouble now" because of their latest academic cheating scandal.  Well, a few months later I watched them play Villanova for the national championship.  I was so glad that Villanova won that game, but not so much because of their Big East status, but because I wouldn't have been able to take the cheaters winning the title. 

[Heisenberg]

Another questions of general curiosity.

I'm sure many on here support the Kurds in fighting Syria/Turkey/Iraq/Iran for their own homeland, and supported the Kosovo Albanians in uprising to support their own homeland. These are just two recent examples.

When do Scoopers support a groups right to armed military action to seek independence, and when are they against it. Do Palestinians ever have a right for armed resistance against Settlement expansion, and repression, to form an independent state?

I recognize that the "non-serious" people here just in general hate Islam, so for them, anything they do is wrong, but what about the serious scoopers (which are the majority here).

I'm largely following up on the previous question, on what would happen to the Palestinian cause, if they all put down their weapons immediately, in 1-year, 2-years, 5-years. You often see this statement, that if they put down their weapons it would all be over, but no one thought that doing so would be lead to progressing to an independent state, nor did anyone think that increased settlements, and continued Israeli incursions/detentions would cease.

History and the political stances of the far-right Israeli political parties, say that none of that would ever occur unless there is a drastic change in Israeli politics.

So is there a point at which armed uprisings by Palestinians would be viewed similarly to the Kurds/Kosovo-Albanians for Scoopers, or under no circumstances would it be ok, if the former, when? If the latter, why?

Why don't the Palestinians say they will run the West Bank and leave us alone (which is what they want, zero Jews, like Gaza)

Israel would happily agree if they just gave assurances of no violence against Israel. If they did that, Israel would send the IDF in to forcibly remove the settlers as they did with Jews in Gaza in 2005.

Why is a promise of no violence against Israel so hard for the Palestinians to agree to?  You know the answer but don't want to say it.

LOL. You are such a joke. No ability to see anything but black and white.  It can't (yet) be a two state solution, but they can't wipe Gaza off the face of the earth, or wall them off and pretend the problem doesn't exist.

You are probably talking about a lengthy occupation, but one that hopefully comes with investment into restoring infrastructure. Maybe Israel can worth their new friends in the mideast (UAE and possibly SA) to restore the area into something other than the hellscape its been for decades. And it would be helpful from a geopolitical point of view - to turn the Palestinians from seeing Iran as their savior.

Whatever the solution, it will take a long time, patience and setbacks.

Same answer:

Wall them off and pretending they do not exist is what the Gazans want. That is why Gaza has zero Jews. Israel had to dig up the Jewish cemeteries and take the remains with them when they left in 2005.

Again, all the Palestinians have to do is give assurances they will stop killing Jews, and they will have peace in five minutes.

Again, why have the Palestinians never agreed to no more killing Jews in the last 75 years?

Since you're smarter than me ... I'll answer it for you ... because the Palestinians do not want peace. They want all the Jews dead so they can live "from the river to the sea."

All the "serious scoopers" fail to understand the importance of October 7. It marked a major turning point in Israel's thinking. They are completely united in "never again."  They are not stopping until the Palestinians are unable to commit violence against Israel. And they will do whatever it takes.

No nuance is required; they want to be able to say that the Palestinians no longer have the means to kill any more Jews.

If your answer is they can never do that, then this is just the beginning, and it will get really ugly.

What about world opinion? Israel doesn't care; they are in a fight for their survival as they cannot live anymore with the constant threat of violence and death. So, they are going to end that threat.

Look at Ukraine: 700,000 dead (300k Russians and 400k Ukranians), and all the "serious people" with the Ukraine flag avatars are bored of it and moving on. As they did with Afghanistan before that, Darfur (which might be the worst it has ever been right now, and no one cares anymore), Rwanda (they did a movie about it, that's enough), Somalia (again, they got a cool movie, that is enough), the Ethiopian famine, Iraq, 9/11, and on and on and on.

The sad reality is "serious people" will get bored of this, and these 175 pages will be forgotten by "serious people," and Israel will return to its October 6th stature but with some dead Jews and a ton of dead Palestinians and an enemy that is unable to commit violence against them.

In other words, Israel will win again.

[Heisenberg]

Harvard will absolutely be fine.

What is happening at Harvard will make it fine. if the donors were not forcing change, and let the status quo continue, Harvard would not be fine.

Effectively, Bill Ackman's X account now runs Harvard. And he greatly respects Elon.
"Serious People" do not understand this.

[Uncle Rico]

What is happening at Harvard will make it fine. if the donors were not forcing change, and let the status quo continue, Harvard would not be fine.

Effectively, Bill Ackman's X account now runs Harvard. And he greatly respects Elon.
"Serious People" do not understand this.

He respects an anti-semite.  He's a hypocrite.

[The Sultan]

What is happening at Harvard will make it fine. if the donors were not forcing change, and let the status quo continue, Harvard would not be fine.

Effectively, Bill Ackman's X account now runs Harvard. And he greatly respects Elon.
"Serious People" do not understand this.

LOL...no.

Bill Ackman's account doesn't run Harvard. You are way too online and too feeble minded to realize it.

[The Sultan]

Why don't the Palestinians say they will run the West Bank and leave us alone (which is what they want, zero Jews, like Gaza)

Israel would happily agree if they just gave assurances of no violence against Israel. If they did that, Israel would send the IDF in to forcibly remove the settlers as they did with Jews in Gaza in 2005.

Why is a promise of no violence against Israel so hard for the Palestinians to agree to?  You know the answer but don't want to say it.


Same answer:

Wall them off and pretending they do not exist is what the Gazans want. That is why Gaza has zero Jews. Israel had to dig up the Jewish cemeteries and take the remains with them when they left in 2005.

Again, all the Palestinians have to do is give assurances they will stop killing Jews, and they will have peace in five minutes.

Again, why have the Palestinians never agreed to no more killing Jews in the last 75 years?

Since you're smarter than me ... I'll answer it for you ... because the Palestinians do not want peace. They want all the Jews dead so they can live "from the river to the sea."

All the "serious scoopers" fail to understand the importance of October 7. It marked a major turning point in Israel's thinking. They are completely united in "never again."  They are not stopping until the Palestinians are unable to commit violence against Israel. And they will do whatever it takes.

No nuance is required; they want to be able to say that the Palestinians no longer have the means to kill any more Jews.

If your answer is they can never do that, then this is just the beginning, and it will get really ugly.

What about world opinion? Israel doesn't care; they are in a fight for their survival as they cannot live anymore with the constant threat of violence and death. So, they are going to end that threat.

Look at Ukraine: 700,000 dead (300k Russians and 400k Ukranians), and all the "serious people" with the Ukraine flag avatars are bored of it and moving on. As they did with Afghanistan before that, Darfur (which might be the worst it has ever been right now, and no one cares anymore), Rwanda (they did a movie about it, that's enough), Somalia (again, they got a cool movie, that is enough), the Ethiopian famine, Iraq, 9/11, and on and on and on.

The sad reality is "serious people" will get bored of this, and these 175 pages will be forgotten by "serious people," and Israel will return to its October 6th stature but with some dead Jews and a ton of dead Palestinians and an enemy that is unable to commit violence against them.

In other words, Israel will win again.

Israel will definitely win again. No doubt. And that's a good thing.

But they will still face violent terrorism unless they change how they govern post-winning. You are again conflating what Hamas wants with what Palestinians want. Palestinians, like most people, want peace and prosperity. But simple people such as yourself want to throw everyone in the same bucket because it make it easier to justify violence against them.

History will prove me right. Yet you will claim to have it right all along because you are dishonest and dimwitted. 

[Heisenberg]

LOL...no.

Bill Ackman's account doesn't run Harvard. You are way too online and too feeble minded to realize it.

Ackman thinks his X account runs Harvard, and it is hard to argue with him.

https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1737803392427110730

This is a superb platform for fixing @Harvard (and other universities that have lost their way) and restoring it to excellence.
I am working with some others on how we can accelerate necessary change at Harvard et al.
It goes far beyond replacing President Gay.
I will have more to share soon.

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And Ackman is telling his 1M followers on X how to fix Harvard, and no donor is moving until he gives his blessing ...

He hates Penny Pritzker, as does his good friend and Harvard's largest donor, Ken Griffin. Griffin and JB are mortal enemies. Griffin left Chicago for Miami in part because of hatred for JB.

They want her out and all her supporters from the Harvard corporation.

https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1738604362484916324?s=20

If @Harvard President Gay resigns, it does not restore Harvard's reputation. That would only begin when the Corporation board members acknowledge that they made a bad choice of leader, which they have been unwilling to do.

The first step to reputational repair is to acknowledge one's failures, analyze what went wrong, and then take definitive steps going forward to ensure the error is not repeated. 

By waiting for President Gay to resign, the board members can temporarily disclaim responsibility and avoid the inevitable racism accusation, but they are digging a deeper whole for themselves.

When your CEO has done the indefensible, you must take immediate action to replace her. If you don't, you become culpable in what was initially only her failures.

Ultimately, the buck stops with the Harvard Corporation board. They need to act now.

Each hour of inaction further damages the institution for whom they have a fiduciary responsibility. The board's actions and inactions to date are indefensible in light of their fiduciary responsibilities to Harvard, the faculty, the student body, the alumni community and other societal stakeholders.

The Harvard Corporation Board is not an honorarium. It is a serious societal responsibility.

We deserve better.

[reinko]

Why don't the Palestinians say they will run the West Bank and leave us alone (which is what they want, zero Jews, like Gaza)

Israel would happily agree if they just gave assurances of no violence against Israel. If they did that, Israel would send the IDF in to forcibly remove the settlers as they did with Jews in Gaza in 2005.

Why is a promise of no violence against Israel so hard for the Palestinians to agree to?  You know the answer but don't want to say it.


Same answer:

Wall them off and pretending they do not exist is what the Gazans want. That is why Gaza has zero Jews. Israel had to dig up the Jewish cemeteries and take the remains with them when they left in 2005.

Again, all the Palestinians have to do is give assurances they will stop killing Jews, and they will have peace in five minutes.

Again, why have the Palestinians never agreed to no more killing Jews in the last 75 years?

Since you're smarter than me ... I'll answer it for you ... because the Palestinians do not want peace. They want all the Jews dead so they can live "from the river to the sea."

All the "serious scoopers" fail to understand the importance of October 7. It marked a major turning point in Israel's thinking. They are completely united in "never again."  They are not stopping until the Palestinians are unable to commit violence against Israel. And they will do whatever it takes.

No nuance is required; they want to be able to say that the Palestinians no longer have the means to kill any more Jews.

If your answer is they can never do that, then this is just the beginning, and it will get really ugly.

What about world opinion? Israel doesn't care; they are in a fight for their survival as they cannot live anymore with the constant threat of violence and death. So, they are going to end that threat.

Look at Ukraine: 700,000 dead (300k Russians and 400k Ukranians), and all the "serious people" with the Ukraine flag avatars are bored of it and moving on. As they did with Afghanistan before that, Darfur (which might be the worst it has ever been right now, and no one cares anymore), Rwanda (they did a movie about it, that's enough), Somalia (again, they got a cool movie, that is enough), the Ethiopian famine, Iraq, 9/11, and on and on and on.

The sad reality is "serious people" will get bored of this, and these 175 pages will be forgotten by "serious people," and Israel will return to its October 6th stature but with some dead Jews and a ton of dead Palestinians and an enemy that is unable to commit violence against them.

In other words, Israel will win again.

What are the chances you ever posted about Israel or anti-semitism on this board before October 7th? 

[Heisenberg]

What are the chances you ever posted about Israel or anti-semitism on this board before October 7th?

Zero, there was never a reason to before.
And the answer for most posters in this thread would also be zero.

Why do you think this is relevant?

[MU82]

Neither can you.  You won't condemn anti-semitism from your tribe and call them pawns.

Step forward and raise your hand, aina?

Have you noticed how unwilliing he is to do this?

He either claims his heroes who support antisemites aren't antisemites, or he just ignores it.

I don't blame him. If I supported a bunch of antisemites even as I tried to call out others as antisemitic, I'd keep ignoring the antisemites I support, too.

Starting with his favorite president ever, who actively aids and comforts antisemites everywhere. Doc shares something in common with David Duke and Nick Fuentes. Loves the 91 felony Criminal Defendant!

[MU82]

What are the chances you ever posted about Israel or anti-semitism on this board before October 7th?

What a dopey question. Antisemitism was only invented on Oct. 7.

[The Sultan]

Ackman thinks his X account runs Harvard,

Of course he does. And he has an army of online simpletons (such as yourself) that agree with him.

Regardless Harvard will be fine.

[4everwarriors]

Have you noticed how unwilliing he is to do this?

He either claims his heroes who support antisemites aren't antisemites, or he just ignores it.

I don't blame him. If I supported a bunch of antisemites even as I tried to call out others as antisemitic, I'd keep ignoring the antisemites I support, too.

Starting with his favorite president ever, who actively aids and comforts antisemites everywhere. Doc shares something in common with David Duke and Nick Fuentes. Loves the 91 felony Criminal Defendant!

Lol 😂

[jesmu84]

Palestinians =\= Hamas