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4everwarriors

No question, that's what they should do. Sure beats genocide and annihilation of a 75 yo country and all its people, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 09:21:13 AM
No question, that's what they should do. Sure beats genocide and annihilation of a 75 yo country and all its people, aina?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

4everwarriors

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2023, 09:15:51 AM
Your position here is that some 7 million Palestinians living in Gaza, the West Bank and surrounding areas should all pack up from what's been their ancestral land for centuries and move to the middle of the desert in Saudi Arabia or the Iranian steppe?
How do you imagine this being accomplished? Trail of Tears II?



Do you not have a knowledge of history? That's what Jews in Poland and Nazi Germany did just to save their lives in the 30's. Only they didn't have a homeland to run to. They left all possessions and fled with virtually nothing and yet 6 million perished in the Holocaust. Or are you of those who say the Holocaust never happened, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 09:26:29 AM


Do you not have a knowledge of history? That's what Jews in Poland and Nazi Germany did just to save their lives in the 30's. Only they didn't have a homeland to run to. They left all possessions and fled with virtually nothing and yet 6 million perished in the Holocaust. Or are you of those who say the Holocaust never happened, hey?

Funny, considering the guy you hailed as the "best of president of my lifetime" hangs out with Holocaust deniers. But as already noted, IOKIYAR.
But I'm honestly not sure what your point here is, if you have one. Because Jews were forced to flee the Nazis, Palestinians should be forced to flee the Jews? Strong take, there.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 09:26:29 AM


Do you not have a knowledge of history? That's what Jews in Poland and Nazi Germany did just to save their lives in the 30's. Only they didn't have a homeland to run to. They left all possessions and fled with virtually nothing and yet 6 million perished in the Holocaust. Or are you of those who say the Holocaust never happened, hey?

Arguably the worst thing to happen in the entirety of our known existence. And, we don't want it to repeat.

MuggsyB

Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on November 08, 2023, 08:50:06 AM
"The cries of the Palestinian and Israeli children sound no different to me."

"Palestinian people are not disposable."

Like Muggs said in another thread, albeit he was calling for the support of orcas, have empathy. No, not for Hamas, not for terrorists, not for the brutally violent, no not for the abhorrent. For the Palestinians, for the Israelis, for the Muslims, for the Jews, for all who are being used as pawns and who are being murdered in a war between extremists. We are being stripped of our empathy, actually, we are actively choosing to ignore it.

Yes Jumpstreet and I do.  Although I will admit I have more empathy towards certain species over adult humans.   I also (unlike some here) understand what pure evil is and believe they should have an appointment with darkness.  I also would like to see these people suffer similarly to some of Denzel's adversaries in The Equalizer and Man on Fire. 

reinko

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 09:58:39 AM
Yes Jumpstreet and I do.  Although I will admit I have more empathy towards certain species over adult humans.   I also (unlike some here) understand what pure evil is and believe they should have an appointment with darkness.  I also would like to see these people suffer similarly to some of Denzel's adversaries in The Equalizer and Man on Fire.

Okay, this is a bit.  Secret plans, reducing places to dust, seizing oil fields, going Denzel...applaud you for your commitment here

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 09:58:39 AM
Yes Jumpstreet and I do.  Although I will admit I have more empathy towards certain species over adult humans.   I also (unlike some here) understand what pure evil is and believe they should have an appointment with darkness.  I also would like to see these people suffer similarly to some of Denzel's adversaries in The Equalizer and Man on Fire.

Well, Muggs, glad to hear it. Empathy is empathy and a little is better than none.

MuggsyB

Quote from: reinko on November 08, 2023, 10:12:28 AM
Okay, this is a bit.  Secret plans, reducing places to dust, seizing oil fields, going Denzel...applaud you for your commitment here

This is a dangerous world and situation Reinko.  I firmly believe if I was in charge many of these threats would be eliminated.  They of course would arise again but my motto is batter up. 

MuggsyB

Qatar really annoys me.  I may amend my 5 point plan. 

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 08, 2023, 08:59:36 AM

There is so much land controlled by Arab nations that surely they could annex a portion and create their own Palestinian state. But, that's not the Palestinian mission over the past 75 years and beyond..."from the River to the Sea," aina?
Nah, just give them North Dakota, who needs 2 Dakotas anyway?

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 10:30:36 AM
Qatar really annoys me.  I may amend my 5 point plan.

Qatar is home to the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East, the U.S. Central Command's forward headquarters and some 8,000 U.S. troops.
But hey, they annoy you, so let's end that strategic relationship.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2023, 10:40:37 AM
Qatar is home to the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East, the U.S. Central Command's forward headquarters and some 8,000 U.S. troops.
But hey, they annoy you, so let's end that strategic relationship.

You refuse to see the entire picture Pakuni.  Annexing the country might be a good idea. 

reinko

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2023, 10:40:37 AM
Qatar is home to the largest U.S. military base in the Middle East, the U.S. Central Command's forward headquarters and some 8,000 U.S. troops.
But hey, they annoy you, so let's end that strategic relationship.

Dude, it's step 6 in the plan, not like it's step 2 or 3.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 10:43:13 AM
You refuse to see the entire picture Pakuni.  Annexing the country might be a good idea.

Ah, so you want to be tyrannical?

MuggsyB

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 08, 2023, 10:48:51 AM
Ah, so you want to be tyrannical?

Follow their money trail.  The leaders of Hamas are staying at the Four Seasons in Doha.  I would send them a elaborate room service, fake a conversation with them about restoring the caliphate, and then introduce them to darkness.  Within 24 hrs.  Scumbags. 

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 10:43:13 AM
You refuse to see the entire picture Pakuni.  Annexing the country might be a good idea.

Oh, you just want to forcibly annex a sovereign country and subjugate/murder its people in violation of just about every international law that exists.
Got it.
I just can't understand why people say you're living in a fantasy world.

Pakuni

Quote from: MuggsyB on November 08, 2023, 10:54:39 AM
Follow their money trail.  The leaders of Hamas are staying at the Four Seasons in Doha.  I would send them a elaborate room service, fake a conversation with them about restoring the caliphate, and then introduce them to darkness.  Within 24 hrs.  Scumbags.

I mean, why aren't you doing this?
If it's a money issue, we can set up a GoFundMe to foot the bill for your plane ticket? For giggles, we'll even make it round-trip.

reinko

Quote from: Pakuni on November 08, 2023, 10:57:50 AM
I mean, why aren't you doing this?
If it's a money issue, we can set up a GoFundMe to foot the bill for your plane ticket? For giggles, we'll even make it round-trip.

It's a bit, and I think he's been weirdly radicalized by stuff he is reading and watching. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on November 08, 2023, 10:33:07 AM
Nah, just give them North Dakota, who needs 2 Dakotas anyway?


So the one with the oil?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: reinko on November 08, 2023, 10:59:24 AM
It's a bit, and I think he's been weirdly radicalized by stuff he is reading and watching.

I used to think so, but not any more.
Andy Kaufman was never this committed to a bit.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: reinko on November 08, 2023, 10:43:37 AM
Dude, it's step 6 in the plan, not like it's step 2 or 3.
Yeah, it is a whole lot easier to annex them after assassinating their leaders and nuking everyone else. Gotta follow the correct sequence of steps.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Jockey

When people tell you that they are crazy, believe them.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 08, 2023, 10:59:56 AM

So the one with the oil?

That way we can just reintroduce them to freedom at some point.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 08, 2023, 04:06:06 AM
This is an outrageous characterization of Israel.

Just say your antisemitic and save us all the time.

Muslims no

Palestinians and their Jihadist interpretations of Islam, yes. This ideology needs to be eliminated.

I think we found the extremist on this board because only a very confused person would think that whatever Christian extremism exists in the United States, and you'll have to give us examples, is morally equivalent to what happened that October 7.

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