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Heisenberg

#2275
Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2023, 02:01:53 PM
Nothing.  I've said Israel is well within their right to respond any way they see fit, including sending troops.

I'm not the one turning it into a culture war.

Hamas turned it into a culture war. It is either their culture or the Israeli (western culture).

As much as you want to pretend this is a glorified police action against some thugs, and once they are arrested, this is over, it is not.

Both sides are saying it is far more than that, and both sides are fighting as if it is more than that.

Pakuni

#2276
Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 02:04:56 PM
I don't.  I doubt you even bothered to read it, since it is laced with dog crap.  You likely gave it the time it deserved.  Zero.  ;D  Unfortunately, I'm kind of dumb and read it, instead.

None of those things make Tlaib awful, in my opinion, but we can disagree on that.  I also sincerely doubt that her entire view of those positions can be explained so glibly.

When I say awful, I don't mean as a human being. I have no idea what she's like as a human being. I'm saying she's awful in the sense  that she's espoused awful positions and policy proposals as a member of Congress.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:13:05 PM
Hamas turned it into a culture war. It is either their culture or the Israeli (western culture).

As much as you want to pretend this is a glorified police action against some thugs, and once they are arrested, this is over, it is not.

Both sides are saying it is far more than that, and both sides are fighting as if it is more than that.

I'm not pretending it's a police action.  It's a war but thanks for reading
Guster is for Lovers

4everwarriors

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 01:22:45 PM
I'm going to need concrete reasons she is awful.  If you read that article, the people talking about her are ideologically opposed to her in every way... they're going to say anything they can to remove her from office.

Saying a couple of dumb things doesn't make her awful.  If that were the litmus test then pretty much everyone in congress is guilty.



Really? Let's start with her displaying the Palestinian flag in her official capacity as a member of the U. s. House of Representatives. This isn't hard. Its elementary, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Heisenberg

#2279
They marched 100 women and children (this is what "human shield" means) onto the battlefield to stand between them and the IDF.

They do this because they believe whatever happens next, they will win. 

The IDF does not attack, and they win.
The IDF attacks, and women and children die. The West expresses its outage against Israel. Calls Israel war criminals. Hamas wins.

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https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk4yhmlq6

IDF troops who engaged in fierce combat with Hamas terrorists for control over an operations base in the Gaza Strip were met with a disturbing tactic: roughly 100 women and children were pushed forward by Hamas to act as a human barrier.

Soldiers of the Givati Infantry Brigade encountered the shocking scenario during the battle for the base of Hamas's elite Force 17 near Jabaliya in the Gaza Strip. "We stand ready to face more instances of such cynical and brutal use of civilians," an IDF officer said.

And a personal story

Muslim doctor taken hostage, used as human shield by Hamas terrorists disguised as IDF: 'I was praying for a miracle'
https://nypost.com/2023/10/11/muslim-doctor-taken-hostage-used-as-human-shield-by-hamas/



ADDED LATER

Hamas told the world last week this is exactly what they do (what do you think "sacrifice martyrs" means). However, it is so hard for the Western Progressive worldview to accept this that the West rejects it. It cannot be correct!

Hamas knows this, which is why they will say it to your face.

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Hamas Official Ghazi Hamad's interview on Lebanese TV last week, as translated by Lebanese TV
https://www.memri.org/tv/hamas-official-ghazi-hamad-we-will-repeat-october-seven-until-israel-annihilated-victims-everything-we-do-justified

"Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country, because it constitutes a security, military, and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation, and must be finished. We are not ashamed to say this, with full force.

"We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do this again and again. The Al-Aqsa Flood is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth, because we have the determination, the resolve, and the capabilities to fight. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 03, 2023, 02:24:21 PM
I'm not pretending it's a police action.  It's a war but thanks for reading

Then, it is a war over culture.

I'm sorry that makes you feel uncomfortable.

.01 or 10

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:35:53 PM
Then, it is a war over culture.

I'm sorry that makes you feel uncomfortable.

.01 or 10

Yes, the American culture wars are very similar to that of a war between Hamas and Israel.  Good lord, you're an idiot
Guster is for Lovers

Hards Alumni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2023, 02:30:38 PM


Really? Let's start with her displaying the Palestinian flag in her official capacity as a member of the U. s. House of Representatives. This isn't hard. Its elementary, aina?

I have no issue with someone being a proud American and being proud of where they came from.  That you do, is awfully telling.  If a rep that was born in Israel wants to place the Israeli flag outside their office, that's just fine to.  I don't know why people care about this stuff at all.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 02:39:20 PM
I have no issue with someone being a proud American and being proud of where they came from.  That you do, is awfully telling.  If a rep that was born in Israel wants to place the Israeli flag outside their office, that's just fine to.  I don't know why people care about this stuff at all.

Why don't you apply this logic to MTG?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:41:40 PM
Why don't you apply this logic to MTG?

I have no idea what you're referring to.  I haven't brought her up once in this thread.  So you'll need to make some sense of your question.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 02:39:20 PM
I have no issue with someone being a proud American and being proud of where they came from.  That you do, is awfully telling.  If a rep that was born in Israel wants to place the Israeli flag outside their office, that's just fine to.  I don't know why people care about this stuff at all.

If a skinhead was elected to Congress and has displayed a swastika, are you okay with that, too?
How about a southern member of Congress displaying a Confederate flag?  Cool too.

The Palestinian flag has a similar meaning as it represents the genocide of 8 million Jews in Israel.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
If a skinhead was elected to Congress and has displayed a swastika, are you okay with that, too?

The Palestinian flag has a similar meaning as it represents the genocide of 8 million Jews in Isreal.

Not a serious person.

Heisenberg

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 02:53:03 PM
Not a serious person.

How about a Chinese member of Congress who wants to display a Taiwanese flag?

The US Government currently bans its display on government property.

US to introduce bill allowing display of Taiwan flag at government agencies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3825086

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:57:11 PM
How about a Chinese member of Congress who wants to display a Taiwanese flag?

The US Government currently bans its display on government property.

US to introduce bill allowing display of Taiwan flag at government agencies
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3825086

Does the US Government currently ban the display of the Palestinian flag? 

If not, then there's your answer.  Why is this so difficult for you?

lawdog77

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 03, 2023, 02:51:45 PM
If a skinhead was elected to Congress and has displayed a swastika, are you okay with that, too?
How about a southern member of Congress displaying a Confederate flag?  Cool too.

The Palestinian flag has a similar meaning as it represents the genocide of 8 million Jews in Israel.



does not equal this

Pakuni


Heisenberg

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 03, 2023, 02:59:26 PM
Does the US Government currently ban the display of the Palestinian flag? 

If not, then there's your answer.  Why is this so difficult for you?

Are you cool with the ban of the Taiwanese flag?

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 03, 2023, 03:26:49 PM
Are you cool with the ban of the Taiwanese flag?

Personally, I don't care. 

Jockey

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2023, 02:30:38 PM


Really? Let's start with her displaying the Palestinian flag in her official capacity as a member of the U. s. House of Representatives. This isn't hard. Its elementary, aina?

Do you feel the same about members who support the Confederate flag? Those showing support for these traitors?


Heisenberg

Quote from: Jockey on November 03, 2023, 03:35:56 PM
Do you feel the same about members who support the Confederate flag? Those showing support for these traitors?

This is written like someone does this? Who?

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 03, 2023, 02:30:38 PM


Really? Let's start with her displaying the Palestinian flag in her official capacity as a member of the U. s. House of Representatives. This isn't hard. Its elementary, aina?
And how do you feel about Tucks, Margie, Gosar and the others? At the very least they make your list and you denounce them, right?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 03, 2023, 03:01:11 PM


does not equal this


Thank you lawdog. This is a perfect example of why it is a waste of time to try to have a legitimate discussion with douchey.

Ignore list is your friend, everyone.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: lawdog77 on November 03, 2023, 03:01:11 PM


does not equal this


To those who have issue with it on this board? Yes. Down the the premature infants in the NICU (Joined Hamas at birth).
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Jockey

Quote from: Not A Serious Person on November 03, 2023, 03:45:43 PM
This is written like someone does this? Who?

Your moniker says it all.

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