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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 02, 2023, 08:00:54 AM
The FBI is investigating as a report of an assault was filed.

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https://freebeacon.com/campus/israeli-harvard-business-school-student-accosted-and-harassed-amid-gaza-die-in-on-campus/

A report has been filed with the Harvard University Police Department and the FBI's Boston office. "An Israeli student on his way to class pulled his phone out to film the rioters and he was attacked. He was assaulted both physically and verbally. Throughout the assault he kept calm, but was aggressively attacked by Pro-Palestine rioters," reads the report to the FBI, which was reviewed by the Free Beacon. "At least 2 of those involved have been identified as employees of the University and have not yet been dismissed from their posts."

The FBI declined to comment.

It is unclear how or whether Harvard plans to address the incident, which was reported to Harvard Business School administrators. Neither the executive director of Harvard's MBA program, Jana Kierstead, nor Harvard University president Claudine Gay responded to a request for comment.

Antisemitism and Islamophobia are on the rise across the US, but you only seem concerned with one and not the other.  Why is this?

MU82

Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 02, 2023, 08:10:39 AM
Antisemitism and Islamophobia are on the rise across the US, but you only seem concerned with one and not the other.  Why is this?

All Muslims are terrorists, even the infants, so they deserve to die.

Duh.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 02, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
Cornell University cancels classes Friday amid 'extraordinary stress' on campus after violent antisemitic threats led to the arrest of a student
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/us/cornell-university-antisemitic-threats-thursday/index.html

Cornell University has canceled classes Friday to acknowledge the "extraordinary stress" its campus has been under as one of its students is accused of making violent antisemitic threats against Jewish people at the college, where unease over the Israel-Hamas war has been escalating for weeks.

Huh, I guess universities do take this seriously after all.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

D Canoe, I'll preface this by saying that you may be right the FBI is investigating, but I hope you realize that your statement here:

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 02, 2023, 08:00:54 AM
The FBI is investigating as a report of an assault was filed.

Is not supported by the evidence you post here:

Quote from: Douche Canoe on November 02, 2023, 08:00:54 AM
https://freebeacon.com/campus/israeli-harvard-business-school-student-accosted-and-harassed-amid-gaza-die-in-on-campus/

A report has been filed with the Harvard University Police Department and the FBI's Boston office. "An Israeli student on his way to class pulled his phone out to film the rioters and he was attacked. He was assaulted both physically and verbally. Throughout the assault he kept calm, but was aggressively attacked by Pro-Palestine rioters," reads the report to the FBI, which was reviewed by the Free Beacon. "At least 2 of those involved have been identified as employees of the University and have not yet been dismissed from their posts."

The FBI declined to comment.

It is unclear how or whether Harvard plans to address the incident, which was reported to Harvard Business School administrators. Neither the executive director of Harvard's MBA program, Jana Kierstead, nor Harvard University president Claudine Gay responded to a request for comment.

This is a good example of why so many take exception with your posts. You write one thing and then post sources claiming they support you...when they actually don't. You make an inference or an assumption based on what the source says and then present is at fact. Combine that with using clearly biased sources, I mean "rioters"? Unless there's something not shown on the video, this was a bunch of students in a public square lying on the grass and other students holding cloths trying to herd people away from their protest. "Assaulted verbally"? What criminal statute does "assaulted verbally" fall under? "Attacked" and "physically assaulted" are more subjective and grabbing someone can technically be a physical assault, but the authors are clearly trying to paint the picture that the student was beaten or injured...when the video doesn't show that.

Weren't you the poster a few years back who was screaming at posters for saying the city of Houston was "destroyed" by Hurricane Harvey? IIRC, your argument was that words have meaning and people shouldn't try to sensationalize things.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 02, 2023, 07:31:52 AM

OMG, you are just engaging in circular nonsense right now. And you can't even see it.

An absolute failing of your Marquette education if you can't understand how illogical the above is.

Well, that's just your Western Progressive worldviewTM talking.
Kidding ... well said.

4everwarriors

#2130
Quote from: Hards Alumni on November 02, 2023, 08:09:17 AM
Incredibly spot on.



Incredibly stupid, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

The Sultan

Quote from: 4everwarriors on November 02, 2023, 09:35:33 AM
Incredibly stupid, hey?


Again, get out of the Quon. Learn something different. Listen to a new podcast on your morning walks. The world is a big, complicated and amazing place.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


MUBurrow

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 02, 2023, 03:54:44 AM
Not really. "Woke ideology" is a completely made up thing. It's a straw man of extreme political views that few people actually share.

In the article Douche Canoe posted, I actually don't think Sowell's explanation for for the foundations of political disagreement (as described in the article) is the problem.  The problem is that Kisin misapplies that explanation like an absolute dipshit.

JWags85

Quote from: MUBurrow on November 02, 2023, 09:58:59 AM
In the article Douche Canoe posted, I actually don't think Sowell's explanation for for the foundations of political disagreement (as described in the article) is the problem.  The problem is that Kisin misapplies that explanation like an absolute dipcrap.

Agreed.  Ive actually liked some of what Kisin has written/stated in the past (for example his view on how to combat climate change), but he just uses the dumb woke angle as a crutch too often and its a tired schtick.  As soon as I see it multiple times in an article or thinkpiece, I just groan, even if I would generally side with the point being made otherwise. 

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: JWags85 on November 02, 2023, 10:24:02 AM
Agreed.  Ive actually liked some of what Kisin has written/stated in the past (for example his view on how to combat climate change), but he just uses the dumb woke angle as a crutch too often and its a tired schtick.  As soon as I see it multiple times in an article or thinkpiece, I just groan, even if I would generally side with the point being made otherwise.

Wokism in regards to being used as an insult has gone from a critique of cynical shaming exercises (which can be an issue!) to basically getting mad that you can't say heinous crap about a group of people, religion, race etc without people rightfully calling you an a**hole.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Plaque Lives Matter! on November 02, 2023, 10:43:04 AM
Wokism in regards to being used as an insult has gone from a critique of cynical shaming exercises (which can be an issue!) to basically getting mad that you can't say heinous crap about a group of people, religion, race etc without people rightfully calling you an pretty boy.

And being mad about inclusivity
Guster is for Lovers

MUBurrow

Quote from: JWags85 on November 02, 2023, 10:24:02 AM
Agreed.  Ive actually liked some of what Kisin has written/stated in the past (for example his view on how to combat climate change), but he just uses the dumb woke angle as a crutch too often and its a tired schtick.  As soon as I see it multiple times in an article or thinkpiece, I just groan, even if I would generally side with the point being made otherwise.

When you think about how Kisin employs the constrained and unconstrained vision for even two seconds, it is completely untenable.  If you would have shown 15 year old, Catholic school educated me this:
QuoteThose with "unconstrained vision" think that humans are malleable and can be perfected. They believe that social ills and evils can be overcome through collective action that encourages humans to behave better. To subscribers of this view, poverty, crime, inequality, and war are not inevitable. Rather, they are puzzles that can be solved. We need only to say the right things, enact the right policies, and spend enough money, and we will suffer these social ills no more.

By contrast, those who see the world through a "constrained vision" lens believe that human nature is a universal constant. No amount of social engineering can change the sober reality of human self-interest, or the fact that human empathy and social resources are necessarily scarce. People who see things this way believe that most political and social problems will never be "solved"; they can only be managed.
and told me that in the year of our Lord 2023, those who subscribe to the unconstrained vision should be derided, I would have been utterly confused.  Yet here we are, and all violence is supposedly proof of the naivite of anyone who believes the world can get better.  What a horribly nihlist way to exist.  Even if that was right (its not) - what is the point of anything?  If we don't believe that human beings can overcome their base instincts in favor of social harmony with any meaningful regularity (again, ridiculous and not reflected in a cursory comparison of the world today vs [insert any length of time ago here]) we might as well just nuke everyone with whom we disagree into oblivion.  Because under this interpretation, they will never learn and never get better. They are just controlled by their base, violent instincts, and its up to all the responsible conservatives to constrain them from escaping contain and wreaking the violent human nature on the world.

Applying this trash to the Israeli-Gaza conflict, Kisin says
QuoteThe events of the last two weeks have shattered the illusion that wokeness [ed note - wokism inserted here to be synonous with the unoconstrained vision] is about protecting victims and standing up for persecuted minorities. This ideology is and has always been about the one thing many of us have told you it is about for years: power. And after the last two weeks, there can be no doubt about how these people will use any power they seize: they will seek to destroy, in any way they can, those who disagree. This unpleasant conclusion is surprising only if you are still clinging to the unconstrained vision. But if there is any constant in human history, it is that revolutionaries always feel entitled to destroy those who stand in their way.

IOW "If you think that human society can better itself in a way that reduces violence and suppresses violent instincts then your actual goal is to seize power to destroy those who disagree with you."  First, this begs the question and is circular - if you preach nonviolence, you're the most violent of all.  Second, he evidently didn't do the reading and is unfamiliar with the works of Hobbes.  Last, if you carry this through, we might as well eliminate all adherents to any culture we perceive to have an inclination for violence - because they'll never learn.  What is the point of "managing" (his word) people who will never learn to "overcome social ills through collective action that encourages humans to behave better"? The whole dichotomy is dependent on people never being able to rise above basic human instincts, and our political responsibility is just to identify who those people are.  To that end, his use of "revolutionaries" in place of Hamas is meant to broaden the definition of what we should see as the ideological blight, and is both dangerous and philosophically lazy as hell.

MU82

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on November 02, 2023, 02:00:20 PM
He's not as woke as Jesus was, but pretty close. Those two, with their woke agenda, ruining the world.

Going to need to introduce Vatican City to darkness if they keep imposing their western progressive policies on the Middle East
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Might become the 6th point.  Which would make it a Star of David.   Which would prove everyone is antisemitic
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Skatastrophy

What's up my fellow wokeys? How's it going enriching Black Lives Matter LLC today? Want to go march to free Palestine but not purpose any solutions to their terrorist state government together? Catch you on the public transportation!

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 02, 2023, 03:24:02 PM
What's up my fellow wokeys? How's it going enriching Black Lives Matter LLC today? Want to go march to free Palestine but not purpose any solutions to their terrorist state government together? Catch you on the public transportation!

After I get done watching the game on ESPN, I have to buy my daughter some Disney stuff at Target but I'll also be able to get a 12-pack of Bud Light, too
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on November 02, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
After I get done watching the game on ESPN, I have to buy my daughter some Disney stuff at Target but I'll also be able to get a 12-pack of Bud Light, too

Don't forget the litter box for her to take to school.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77


Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on November 02, 2023, 03:33:11 PM
Don't forget the litter box for her to take to school.

I had to help her with her CRT homework last night and make sure she read the chapter due this week from the Communist Manifesto

Tomorrow is a bake sale for Palestinian refugees
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Quote from: Skatastrophy on November 02, 2023, 03:24:02 PM
What's up my fellow wokeys? How's it going enriching Black Lives Matter LLC today? Want to go march to free Palestine but not purpose any solutions to their terrorist state government together? Catch you on the public transportation!

As long as I'm home in time to read my kids Ibram Kendi at bedtime.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on November 02, 2023, 03:40:31 PM
As long as I'm home in time to read my kids Ibram Kendi at bedtime.

I can't believe you guys are already through Das Kapital, The Communist Manifesto, and The State and Revolution.

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