Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[Uncle Rico]

Medical staff as well, many have been killed.

Chit happens

[4everwarriors]

With a brother and sister-in-law in Israel, they occupy most of my worries about what's going on over there. And obviously, I am concerned about the lives and safety of all innocent people in harm's way. But also, some of my thoughts are with the courageous journalists who are risking their lives to keep the world informed about this war.

According to the AP: At least 19 journalists have been killed since the start of the war, including 15 in Gaza. More journalists have been killed in Gaza in the past two weeks than the total number who died in the territory since 2001, said Sherif Mansour, Middle East and North Africa coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Journalists are well paid. Its watt dey signed up four, aina?

[dgies9156]

Journalists are well paid.

And, in other news, the Kansas City Royals just mowed through the American League and are prepared to play the New York Mets in the World Series.

The Vanderbilt Commodores remained atop the AP Top 25 football rankings today, followed by Stanford, Duke, Rice, Northwestern and Colorado. Notre Dame continued its five-year reign as the worst of the Bottom 10.

Finally, in other news, it was announced today that Marquette University would, after a 63-year absence, reinstate Division 1 college football. The University also announced that an unnamed donor has given $1 billion to build a new football-only stadium just south of Marquette's existing campus, to be called Real Chili Field. Marquette officials said they intend to join the Big 10 next year and already, pundits said Marquette's football team is expected to be better than Purdue, Indiana, Minnesota and Wisconsin.

[tower912]

4ever is trolling.

[MU82]

Journalists are well paid. Its watt dey signed up four, aina?

Some are well paid, sure. Did they sign up for putting their lives on the line? Maybe some did.

By the same token, I guess, everyone who chooses to live in Israel does so knowing that several countries around them - not to mention every terrorist group - wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Therefore, we should have no sympathy or empathy for any Israelis now because "its watt dey signed up four, aina?"

[21Jumpstreet]

With a brother and sister-in-law in Israel, they occupy most of my worries about what's going on over there. And obviously, I am concerned about the lives and safety of all innocent people in harm's way. But also, some of my thoughts are with the courageous journalists who are risking their lives to keep the world informed about this war.

According to the AP: At least 19 journalists have been killed since the start of the war, including 15 in Gaza. More journalists have been killed in Gaza in the past two weeks than the total number who died in the territory since 2001, said Sherif Mansour, Middle East and North Africa coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists.

Can't imagine, 82, I am sending all my love into the universe for your family.

[MuggsyB]

We need more than "Don't. Don't" from our President regarding Iran and its proxies.  In the last few days Americans have been directly attacked by these scumbags, not to mention those killed and are hostages in Gaza.  We need to be very specific with the Iranian regime that we will act against THEM with force. 

[Hards Alumni]

We need more than "Don't. Don't" from our President regarding Iran and its proxies.  In the last few days Americans have been directly attacked by these scumbags, not to mention those killed and are hostages in Gaza.  We need to be very specific with the Iranian regime that we will act against THEM with force.

Don't.

[MuggsyB]

Don't.

This "Don't" is just silly.  It's not deterring them whatsoever. 

[Jockey]

This "Don't" is just silly.  It's not deterring them whatsoever.

YOU are calling someone else silly?

I think that is a bridge too far.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Journalists are well paid. Its watt dey signed up four, aina?

I'm not going to think twice about police officers killed in the line of duty, it's what they signed up for. Same with firefighters. Same with military.

Thank you for putting our minds at ease with this brilliant philosophy.

[4everwarriors]

Peackin' of too far bridges, hey?



'Breaking Biden' Author: Five Takeaways from Joe's Duplicitous Oval Office Address About Ukraine

[Uncle Rico]

We need more than "Don't. Don't" from our President regarding Iran and its proxies.  In the last few days Americans have been directly attacked by these scumbags, not to mention those killed and are hostages in Gaza.  We need to be very specific with the Iranian regime that we will act against THEM with force.

Gym Jordan has some free time to go wrestle the mullahs

[JWags85]

This thread has been informative, contentious, at times ridiculous, but largely civil and honestly refreshing given the direction some of the heated topics on this board have went.  So a sincere kudos to everyone (not sarcastic), part of the reason this is, at its best, a great board and more than just some college hoops nerds.

That being said, I closed the open Scoop windows I had last night and signed off of social media after a day that, admittedly, I got a bit in the weeds in terms of reading, scrolling, etc...  I gave my 1 year old son a bath and completely unintentionally had sort of out of body reflective moment...I know many of you have young kids, some have young grandkids.  Take some time today and especially this weekend and just hug them and be thankful for the situation that they are in.  Regardless of where you lean in the conflict, there are scared kids all over.  From kids in Gaza who lost family or their lives, to those in Israel who went through the same, from refugee camps, to my very affluent business associate in Tel Aviv who still had to make a game, with his 2 and 5 year olds, out of stocking and preparing their bomb/safety shelter at home last week to keep them level and not freaked out.

We strive to do the best for our kids and sometimes we lose track of how truly fortunate they are in the grand scheme, no matter the comparison set here in the US.

Now back to using Sesame Street for teaching my son how we should best use tactical nukes to eliminate the Mullahs

[MuggsyB]

This thread has been informative, contentious, at times ridiculous, but largely civil and honestly refreshing given the direction some of the heated topics on this board have went.  So a sincere kudos to everyone (not sarcastic), part of the reason this is, at its best, a great board and more than just some college hoops nerds.

That being said, I closed the open Scoop windows I had last night and signed off of social media after a day that, admittedly, I got a bit in the weeds in terms of reading, scrolling, etc...  I gave my 1 year old son a bath and completely unintentionally had sort of out of body reflective moment...I know many of you have young kids, some have young grandkids.  Take some time today and especially this weekend and just hug them and be thankful for the situation that they are in.  Regardless of where you lean in the conflict, there are scared kids all over.  From kids in Gaza who lost family or their lives, to those in Israel who went through the same, from refugee camps, to my very affluent business associate in Tel Aviv who still had to make a game, with his 2 and 5 year olds, out of stocking and preparing their bomb/safety shelter at home last week to keep them level and not freaked out.

We strive to do the best for our kids and sometimes we lose track of how truly fortunate they are in the grand scheme, no matter the comparison set here in the US.

Now back to using Sesame Street for teaching my son how we should best use tactical nukes to eliminate the Mullahs

What do you think Kindergartners are learning in Gazan schools JWags?

[Uncle Rico]

What do you think Kindergartners are learning in Gazan schools JWags?

Probably CRT

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We need more than "Don't. Don't" from our President regarding Iran and its proxies.  In the last few days Americans have been directly attacked by these scumbags, not to mention those killed and are hostages in Gaza.  We need to be very specific with the Iranian regime that we will act against THEM with force.

Muggsy, is part of your "5-point plan" using nuclear weapons on Iran?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

This thread has been informative, contentious, at times ridiculous, but largely civil and honestly refreshing given the direction some of the heated topics on this board have went.  So a sincere kudos to everyone (not sarcastic), part of the reason this is, at its best, a great board and more than just some college hoops nerds.

That being said, I closed the open Scoop windows I had last night and signed off of social media after a day that, admittedly, I got a bit in the weeds in terms of reading, scrolling, etc...  I gave my 1 year old son a bath and completely unintentionally had sort of out of body reflective moment...I know many of you have young kids, some have young grandkids.  Take some time today and especially this weekend and just hug them and be thankful for the situation that they are in.  Regardless of where you lean in the conflict, there are scared kids all over.  From kids in Gaza who lost family or their lives, to those in Israel who went through the same, from refugee camps, to my very affluent business associate in Tel Aviv who still had to make a game, with his 2 and 5 year olds, out of stocking and preparing their bomb/safety shelter at home last week to keep them level and not freaked out.

We strive to do the best for our kids and sometimes we lose track of how truly fortunate they are in the grand scheme, no matter the comparison set here in the US.

Now back to using Sesame Street for teaching my son how we should best use tactical nukes to eliminate the Mullahs

I'll echo that I've appreciated this thread. I haven't jumped in much because I prefer to listen on topics that I don't feel I have a strong enough understanding on. But I've been struck by how many times on this thread I've found myself agreeing with people on seemingly opposite sides of this issue. I think that speaks to how complicated this situation is and how there are no easy answers (most obvious statement ever).

Even after all the reflection, education, and discussion that's occurred since I still don't feel confident saying much on the topic definitively. The few things I can say with confidence are:

Hamas is an evil organization and what they did is evil.

Israel has often been a bad actor towards Palestine and while they bear no responsibility for what Hamas did, they do bear some responsibility for the conditions that allowed for the rise of Hamas. That may sound like splitting hairs but I think its an important distinction.

Israel has to respond with some level of force. Hamas has demonstrated that they are currently capable of inflicting a horrific amount of damage on Israeli citizens and to not respond by crippling them would be negligent.

I wish Israel's response was more measured and targeted than it has been. I have not nearly enough expertise to understand if a more measured and targeted response that is still effective is even possible.

I don't want the US playing offense here. I am fine with them helping play defense.

Crippling Hamas cannot be the only goal. There has to be a path towards rebuilding Palestine and allowing it to thrive. There will not be peace here until the conditions that allow organizations like Hamas to prosper there are removed. Best way to achieve that? I have no idea.

[Hards Alumni]

This "Don't" is just silly.  It's not deterring them whatsoever.

I forget, has anyone, outside of fringe terror groups launched any attacks on Israel?

Or are you just imagining things, or watching too much cable news again?

[Hards Alumni]

What do you think Kindergartners are learning in Gazan schools JWags?

How to dodge bombs, run from gunfire, and first aid probably.

Other than that, the same stuff anyone else would learn in school.

What is the implication here, Muggs?

[Hards Alumni]

I'll echo that I've appreciated this thread. I haven't jumped in much because I prefer to listen on topics that I don't feel I have a strong enough understanding on. But I've been struck by how many times on this thread I've found myself agreeing with people on seemingly opposite sides of this issue. I think that speaks to how complicated this situation is and how there are no easy answers (most obvious statement ever).

Even after all the reflection, education, and discussion that's occurred since I still don't feel confident saying much on the topic definitively. The few things I can say with confidence are:

Hamas is an evil organization and what they did is evil.

Israel has often been a bad actor towards Palestine and while they bear no responsibility for what Hamas did, they do bear some responsibility for the conditions that allowed for the rise of Hamas. That may sound like splitting hairs but I think its an important distinction.

Israel has to respond with some level of force. Hamas has demonstrated that they are currently capable of inflicting a horrific amount of damage on Israeli citizens and to not respond by crippling them would be negligent.

I wish Israel's response was more measured and targeted than it has been. I have not nearly enough expertise to understand if a more measured and targeted response that is still effective is even possible.

I don't want the US playing offense here. I am fine with them helping play defense.

Crippling Hamas cannot be the only goal. There has to be a path towards rebuilding Palestine and allowing it to thrive. There will not be peace here until the conditions that allow organizations like Hamas to prosper there are removed. Best way to achieve that? I have no idea.

100%

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Muggsy, is part of your "5-point plan" using nuclear weapons on Iran?

Just low yield ones, so as not to totally ruin the oilfields we'll be seizing.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Peackin' of too far bridges, hey?



'Breaking Biden' Author: Five Takeaways from Joe's Duplicitous Oval Office Address About Ukraine

I didn't notice that he drooled etc. during his address, I thought he was incapable of communicating?

[Uncle Rico]

I didn't notice that he drooled etc. during his address, I thought he was incapable of communicating?

I've been told by some pretty smart people that they use body doubles in his speeches

[JWags85]

What do you think Kindergartners are learning in Gazan schools JWags?

Muggs, I like and respect your wide range of interest and experiences and travels (even when I poke fun at you), but if thats what you took from that, you really need step back and CHILL.  Maybe take a weekend off from all news and social media related to the conflict.  Cause that is beyond toxic.

I have friends and customers/associates in Israel.  I have nieces and nephews at a Jewish Day School in NJ that would have armed guards at their school gates as a result of this...if they hadn't already for a few years after the anti-semitic attacks in the NY area.  Their uncle and many cousins/relatives of their father in Tel Aviv have been deeply affected in numerous ways including a family that lost their neighbors to October 7th and then also had a son in the IDF who was killed.  And despite all being clearly "pro-Israel" not one of them have embedded themselves in rhetoric as hysterical as you.

As to your question?  Are there plenty of Gazan children around Kindergarten age being "programmed" with hate?  Sure.  But there are tens of thousands more who grow up in normal families and live "normal lives".  Every kid in the South doesn't grow up a virulent racist because there are racists all over their community who cling to the Confederate flag.  Spend a few minutes and its EASY to find videos of IDF soldiers hanging out with Palestinian kids.  Playing soccer, giving high fives, just being kids with IDF around just like an American kid in the burbs would be with local law enforcement they know.  Some people post it as PR fodder to defend the IDF, sure, but I see a different positive, its just a glimpse at humanity and another lesson that hate is taught and not ingrained from birth.

As an "online friend" who wants as close to an ideal outcome for Israel as possible, no jokes or jabs at your 5 step plan or crazy fantasies. Truly, coming from me, please try to reframe your aggression and dramatic need for carnage here.  For your mental health more than anything.  Wish for the absolute complete obliteration of Hamas, 1000%.  But temper anything further cause its gonna eat you alive more than it already has.