Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[brewcity77]

A peaceful solution??  A terrorist group slaughters 1200+ Israelis,, 27 Americans, Europeans, has150 hostages, and your solution is "peace'?  This is fking asinine.  Do you understand that Hamas' sole purpose is to murder Jews and for every one of them to leave the State of Israel?  It's literally in their charter.

Yes. A peaceful solution. Because the reason we are here is for generations, other solutions have been tried repeatedly and it led to this. And if the solution is violence, you know where it will lead? Right back here.

A violent response by Israel will lead to a violent response in the future. Maybe from Hamas, maybe from whatever replaces it in a generation. Israel and Palestine have been rinsing and repeating this cycle since Palestinians were bombed out of their homes after World War II. Continuing that cycle would be, as you said, "fking asinine."

[MuggsyB]

Yes. A peaceful solution. Because the reason we are here is for generations, other solutions have been tried repeatedly and it led to this. And if the solution is violence, you know where it will lead? Right back here.

A violent response by Israel will lead to a violent response in the future. Maybe from Hamas, maybe from whatever replaces it in a generation. Israel and Palestine have been rinsing and repeating this cycle since Palestinians were bombed out of their homes after World War II. Continuing that cycle would be, as you said, "fking asinine."

Brew,

This propoportially would have been like 36,000 Americans slaughtered in one day.  If this happened in our country, from Hamas or Hezbollah, do you think our response would be we need to show restraint/peace?  You don't think we would go into Gaza and get all of them?  You don't think we would attack Iran directly?  We're dealing with pure evil/barbarism/and terror. And people are celebrating in the streets over this here and all over the world.  It's sickening and the idea of "peace" or a "ceasefire" after a slaughter of totally innocent citizens, when the survival of a country and its people are at stake, is a fking joke

[ATL MU Warrior]

It is an impossibility to "get all of them" and all of them that you don't get will have fresh reasons and resolve to continue on with everything that's gotten us to this point. That's what you don't seem to understand or are ignoring in your blood lust and anger. 

Hamas is evil and this attack was evil.  However, they cannot be militarily defeated.  When the Israeli response begins they will blend back in to the remaining population, bide their time, and be back again (with a whole lot of new recruits) in the future.

That's the difficulty of this situation and why it cannot be resolved militarily. 

[MuggsyB]

It is an impossibility to "get all of them" and all of them that you don't get will have fresh reasons and resolve to continue on with everything that's gotten us to this point. That's what you don't seem to understand or are ignoring in your blood lust and anger. 

Hamas is evil and this attack was evil.  However, they cannot be militarily defeated.  When the Israeli response begins they will blend back in to the remaining population, bide their time, and be back again (with a whole lot of new recruits) in the future.

That's the difficulty of this situation and why it cannot be resolved militarily.

Every single deal that has been offered over the years has been rejected by Palestinian leadership and there have been no Jews or settlements in Gaza since 2005.  Iran is Hamas.  Iran is Hezbollah. Iran's leadership is evil.  You want to save lives long term?  Get rid of the Mullahs, destroy their nuclear facilities, and seize their oil assets.  The idea that any deal can be made with Iran is absurd .  The first thing they will do if they get a nuclear bomb is launch it at Israel.  This is an attack on civilization and humanity, we can't wait to act.

[HutchwasClutch]

IAF reporting they've killed the Hamas senior commander in a drone strike who planned the attack a week ago. Ali Qadhi.

"We just eliminated him. All Hamas terrorists will meet the same fate."

[Uncle Rico]

Every single deal that has been offered over the years has been rejected by Palestinian leadership and there have been no Jews or settlements in Gaza since 2005.  Iran is Hamas.  Iran is Hezbollah. Iran's leadership is evil.  You want to save lives long term?  Get rid of the Mullahs, destroy their nuclear facilities, and seize their oil assets.  The idea that any deal can be made with Iran is absurd .  The first thing they will do if the get a nuclear bomb is launch it at Israel.  This is an attack on civilization and humanity, we can't wait to act.

Which volunteer group are you joining?

[Uncle Rico]

IAF reporting they've killed the Hamas senior commander in a drone strike who planned the attack a week ago. Ali Qadhi.

"We just eliminated him. All Hamas terrorists will meet the same fate."

Excellent news

[forgetful]

Every single deal that has been offered over the years has been rejected by Palestinian leadership and there have been no Jews or settlements in Gaza since 2005.  Iran is Hamas.  Iran is Hezbollah. Iran's leadership is evil.  You want to save lives long term?  Get rid of the Mullahs, destroy their nuclear facilities, and seize their oil assets.  The idea that any deal can be made with Iran is absurd .  The first thing they will do if the get a nuclear bomb is launch it at Israel.  This is an attack on civilization and humanity, we can't wait to act.

Saudi Arabia supports Hamas, they supported ISIS, should we eliminate them too, and seize their oil assets? What about Russia that supports Syria and Hamas?

[GB Warrior]

Saudi Arabia supports Hamas, they supported ISIS, should we eliminate them too, and seize their oil assets? What about Russia that supports Syria and Hamas?

I'm John Bolton and I approve this message

[Uncle Rico]

Saudi Arabia supports Hamas, they supported ISIS, should we eliminate them too, and seize their oil assets? What about Russia that supports Syria and Hamas?

Kushner got his $2 billion from Saudi Arabia already, so go for it

[MuggsyB]

IAF reporting they've killed the Hamas senior commander in a drone strike who planned the attack a week ago. Ali Qadhi.

"We just eliminated him. All Hamas terrorists will meet the same fate."

Hutch,

They understand the idea of elimination/darkness.  We must support  🇮🇱 and they will do everything in their power to get rid of these scumbags.  Hamas does not care about the Palestinians or collateral damage.  It will be rough for Israel from a media perspective but they do not have a choice.  And personally I think we should help by introducing Hezbollah to immediate darkness in the North among other things. 

[MuggsyB]

Saudi Arabia supports Hamas, they supported ISIS, should we eliminate them too, and seize their oil assets? What about Russia that supports Syria and Hamas?

I've said that we should usurp all of the oil reserves in the entire Middle East for years. 

[brewcity77]

Brew,

This propoportially would have been like 36,000 Americans slaughtered in one day.  If this happened in our country, from Hamas or Hezbollah, do you think our response would be we need to show restraint/peace?  You don't think we would go into Gaza and get all of them?  You don't think we would attack Iran directly?  We're dealing with pure evil/barbarism/and terror. And people are celebrating in the streets over this here and all over the world.  It's sickening and the idea of "peace" or a "ceasefire" after a slaughter of totally innocent citizens, when the survival of a country and its people are at stake, is a fking joke

Our response would be what it was after 9/11, which led to more lost American lives and escalation, including invading a country for "weapons of mass destruction" that we know were never there. It was a mistake then and would be a mistake now.

If your solution is genocide, you have the wrong solution. If you think doing the same thing that's been done for 70+ years and always yielded the same results will somehow change things now, then you're a fool. It will only make things even worse in the long run.

Your answer is to make things worse for all parties. How does that help anyone?

[jesmu84]

I've said that we should usurp all of the oil reserves in the entire Middle East for years.

You're absolutely bonkers

[Uncle Rico]

I've said that we should usurp all of the oil reserves in the entire Middle East for years.

Well, that would certainly eliminate terrorism from the Middle East.  History has taught us colonialism and occupation is the best way to make the world safer

[reinko]

You're absolutely bonkers

Don't forget he wants to take out Putin too. 

[MuggsyB]

Quentin Tarantino, who lives in Tel Aviv, visited an IDF base to lift their spirits.  Good for him. 

[HutchwasClutch]

Hutch,

They understand the idea of elimination/darkness.  We must support  🇮🇱 and they will do everything in their power to get rid of these scumbags.  Hamas does not care about the Palestinians or collateral damage.  It will be rough for Israel from a media perspective but they do not have a choice.  And personally I think we should help by introducing Hezbollah to immediate darkness in the North among other things.

As proof to your point that Hamas could care less about Palestinians, they've told civilians to ignore IDF warnings to evacuate Gaza. 

[JWags85]

IAF reporting they've killed the Hamas senior commander in a drone strike who planned the attack a week ago. Ali Qadhi.

"We just eliminated him. All Hamas terrorists will meet the same fate."

I believe the brother of the second in command of Hamas in Gaza, also a senior commander, was taken out on Thursday. Great tactical work if so.

Saudi Arabia supports Hamas, they supported ISIS, should we eliminate them too, and seize their oil assets? What about Russia that supports Syria and Hamas?

Do we have confirmed evidence of recent Saudi support for Hamas (last 2-3 years)?  Genuine non-leading question.

Just given MBS' maneuvering in the region and the ongoing "rivalry" with Iran.  We know about Qatar's Hamas ties, obviously.  But I'm talking current internationally pragmatic Saudi, not historically

[Jockey]

Hutch,

They understand the idea of elimination/darkness.  We must support  🇮🇱 and they will do everything in their power to get rid of these scumbags.  Hamas does not care about the Palestinians or collateral damage.  It will be rough for Israel from a media perspective but they do not have a choice.  And personally I think we should help by introducing Hezbollah to immediate darkness in the North among other things.

So you are actually advocating for WW3 (or WW2 as trump would call it)?

Do you even understand why almost all here think you are crazy?

[Uncle Rico]

So you are actually advocating for WW3 (or WW2 as trump would call it)?

Do you even understand why almost all here think you are crazy?

What's a tens of million dead from your couch?

[The Sultan]

Every single deal that has been offered over the years has been rejected by Palestinian leadership and there have been no Jews or settlements in Gaza since 2005.  Iran is Hamas.  Iran is Hezbollah. Iran's leadership is evil.  You want to save lives long term?  Get rid of the Mullahs, destroy their nuclear facilities, and seize their oil assets.  The idea that any deal can be made with Iran is absurd .  The first thing they will do if they get a nuclear bomb is launch it at Israel.  This is an attack on civilization and humanity, we can't wait to act.

You keep saying stuff like this but really have no idea what you are talking about. Always willing to have others die for your aims hey?

[The Sultan]

You're absolutely bonkers

Always has been.

[Hards Alumni]

Brew,

This propoportially would have been like 36,000 Americans slaughtered in one day.  If this happened in our country, from Hamas or Hezbollah, do you think our response would be we need to show restraint/peace?  You don't think we would go into Gaza and get all of them?  You don't think we would attack Iran directly?  We're dealing with pure evil/barbarism/and terror. And people are celebrating in the streets over this here and all over the world.  It's sickening and the idea of "peace" or a "ceasefire" after a slaughter of totally innocent citizens, when the survival of a country and its people are at stake, is a fking joke

It's amazing that what you're describing already sorta happened, and our response had no effect.  Terrorist orgs still exist and the world isn't any safer.  Al-Qaeda still exists.  The Taliban still runs Afghanistan.  The US is several trillion dollars poorer for our fury.  IT DOESN'T WORK, MUGS.

[forgetful]

Do we have confirmed evidence of recent Saudi support for Hamas (last 2-3 years)?  Genuine non-leading question.

Just given MBS' maneuvering in the region and the ongoing "rivalry" with Iran.  We know about Qatar's Hamas ties, obviously.  But I'm talking current internationally pragmatic Saudi, not historically

I do not believe there is direct evidence, but there is historic support. There's also the statements from Saudi Arabia blaming the attacks on Israel, which posters like Muggsy say is direct support.

Regarding the "rivalry" with Iran, note that Saudi Arabia is in the process of normalizing relations with Iran, they had recent discussions about Arab solidarity, specifically as it relates to Israel/Palestine.

People point to the possible normalization of relations between Saudi Arabia and Israel, but I don't think they were ever going to happen, because the far-right in Israel was against it, for multiple reasons, including the fact that it would include Saudi Arabia getting nuclear reactors.