Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[tower912]

No, it won't. If we know where this guy is Jockey the answer is to dismiss him from the planet.  And take out the Qataris protecting him as well.  I've actually shown quite a bit of restraint with my anger.  I have a 5 point plan that would take three weeks but because I am courteous to the patty-cake people here I will keep that to myself.

Submit it to your congressman and senator.

[The Sultan]

Submit it to your congressman and senator.

And post it here too. I could use a good laugh.

[MU82]

From the WSJ:

Hamas militants who flooded into southern Israel from Gaza on Saturday carried detailed maps of the towns and military bases that they targeted.

Some carried tactical guides identifying weak spots on Israeli army armored vehicles. Israeli civilians, soldiers and emergency personnel recovered the documents, seen by WSJ, from the attack sites or bodies of dead Hamas fighters.

The detailed information, written in Arabic, indicates that Hamas had planned to attack civilian population centers and take hostages, not just target military installations. The documents also show the scale of Hamas's intelligence-gathering and planning.

[JWags85]

No, it won't. If we know where this guy is Jockey the answer is to dismiss him from the planet.  And take out the Qataris protecting him as well.  I've actually shown quite a bit of restraint with my anger.  I have a 5 point plan that would take three weeks but because I am courteous to the patty-cake people here I will keep that to myself.

I would be genuinely interested in seeing this plan.

But Muggsy, you're a smart and educated guy with a lot of world travel and knowledge, yet again you're talking about attacking multiple sovereign nations like this is Call of Duty.  Taking out a leader of Hamas? Ok, fine.  But being fine blowing away a bunch of Qataris to do it? You want the US to go to war with the entire Middle East?

If Putin sent an elite special forces team to take out Zelenskyy when he was in the US, and took out a couple US soldiers/NYPD/UN Security to do so, you'd be apoplectic

[Skatastrophy]

I would be genuinely interested in seeing this plan.

But Muggsy, you're a smart and educated guy with a lot of world travel and knowledge, yet again you're talking about attacking multiple sovereign nations like this is Call of Duty.  Taking out a leader of Hamas? Ok, fine.  But being fine blowing away a bunch of Qataris to do it? You want the US to go to war with the entire Middle East?

If Putin sent an elite special forces team to take out Zelenskyy when he was in the US, and took out a couple US soldiers/NYPD/UN Security to do so, you'd be apoplectic

Yep, all the while Mugsy et al are concerned that we lost 12 people exiting Afghanistan. Talk about cognitive dissonance

[PointWarrior]

Submit it to your congressman and senator.

Should do a Wojo-style PowerPoint preso for the board....

[The Sultan]

Should do a Wojo-style PowerPoint preso for the board....

YES!!!! Hope it has animations....

[tower912]

...and talking animated animals...

[SoCalEagle]

1. We produce more oil than we consume.
2. We don't have open borders
3. Provided with absolutely no evidence.
4. A conservative media talking point that has been debunked
5. Military recruitment is down because the job market is strong.

So 0-5. Congrats.

Why would you want to spread disinformation and weaken America at a time like this?

Folks, this is your modern day Republican Party at work. 

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Should do a Wojo-style PowerPoint preso for the board....

Dictate the plan to Joey in the form of a letter

[jesmu84]

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25

Vs

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/politics/us-intelligence-iran-hamas-doubt/index.html

[Skatastrophy]

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25

Vs

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/11/politics/us-intelligence-iran-hamas-doubt/index.html

I unsubscribed from WSJ years ago. After the NewsCorp takeover they started having a loose relationship with truth on hot button issues and it's only gotten worse.

[forgetful]

I was told by a friend that NYPD and others are staffing in preparation for tomorrow. Could very well just be some rowdy protesting or nothing at all. We can hope but clearly it's viewed as more than fluff

I've had some contacts with people a little more on the military side and international defense saying they are preparing/mobilizing just in case. Could be scary times. Hopefully just bluster and threats, and nothing materializes.

[mu_hilltopper]

Maybe it was in the previous 12 pages I didn't read but ..

Can anyone explain why the Israel needs a special aid package now, or yearly?    I mean .. their budget is $125b .. yeah they had a budget deficit of $6b .. their debt rating is A+, so their rates have got to be very good.   Their total debt is 1% of GDP  (US' ratio is 98% of GDP).

The current "plan" for a special aid package is $3b, so .. in effect, we're borrowing $3b so Israel doesn't have to borrow it .. but it totally could?

They're our ally and everything, happy to park our assets nearby, but .. why does the debt go on our books?

Anyone explain?

[jesmu84]

Is the beheading babies thing true?

[Hards Alumni]

Is the beheading babies thing true?

People say it, but no one in the Israeli government will confirm it.

[Heisenberg]

People say it, but no one in the Israeli government will confirm it.

President Biden said he saw the pictures.

But those that really run the White House said he did not.

[Skatastrophy]

Maybe it was in the previous 12 pages I didn't read but ..

Can anyone explain why the Israel needs a special aid package now, or yearly?    I mean .. their budget is $125b .. yeah they had a budget deficit of $6b .. their debt rating is A+, so their rates have got to be very good.   Their total debt is 1% of GDP  (US' ratio is 98% of GDP).

The current "plan" for a special aid package is $3b, so .. in effect, we're borrowing $3b so Israel doesn't have to borrow it .. but it totally could?

They're our ally and everything, happy to park our assets nearby, but .. why does the debt go on our books?

Anyone explain?

Nearly 100% of US aid to Israel is military aid, with the goal of maintaining their "qualitative military edge" over other countries in the neighborhood. Their defense spend as a % of GDP is the highest in the world iirc.

If you have 30 minutes to skim a PDF, this is real interesting

U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel - FAS Project on Government Secrecy https://sgp.fas.org/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf

I feel like the short answer to "why" is military industrial complex under the guise of national security and preserving democracy.

[The Sultan]

Start another thread about it.  Stop putting this nonsense in his one.

You would have thought he would have gotten the hint.

Heisey, this topic has revolved around the war itself - not your culture wars. Stay on topic please and don't get this one locked.

[Skatastrophy]

Alt right 'accuracy in media' organization rents a truck to doxx kids that are loosely associated with the groups that signed the thing in support of Hamas actions

Heisenberg: Look what jewish harvard students are doing!

[Hards Alumni]

Alt right 'accuracy in media' organization rents a truck to doxx kids that are loosely associated with the groups that signed the thing in support of Hamas actions

Heisenberg: Look what jewish harvard students are doing!

Canary Mission and ADL likely also involved in such things.

[#UnleashSean]

1. We produce more oil than we consume.
2. We don't have open borders
3. Provided with absolutely no evidence.
4. A conservative media talking point that has been debunked
5. Military recruitment is down because the job market is strong.

So 0-5. Congrats.

Counter point to #2. The US definitely has a much more welcoming border then most 1st world countries.

[The Lens]

Counter point to #2. The US definitely has a much more welcoming border then most 1st world countries.

You've obviously never left the continent.

[The Sultan]

Counter point to #2. The US definitely has a much more welcoming border then most 1st world countries.

Actually you can cross most first world borders without stopping.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Counter point to #2. The US definitely has a much more welcoming border then most 1st world countries.

I'm honestly curious,  which countries are you talking about?