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tower912

Indeed.    We have already seen attacks from within.      So many groups that are the spiritual children of Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph.

#Project 2025
#Red Caesar   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2023, 10:10:00 AM
In short, the entire world no longer fears the U.S. Biden has weakened the military, opened our borders, and bungled Afghanistan. His actions and reactions promote other countries to act without fear of U.S. retaliation or response.
Its just a matter of time before we see an attack from within our country. What are the consequences, hey?

I suppose if we want to be feared as a nation or have a "stronger" (opinion) military, you might have a point. I'm not sure what is meant by opening borders, if you mean Mexican borders, I don't think they are opening. I think some of these countries have always wanted us to respond.

Your point about seeing an attack within our country is super interesting. My wife and I were discussing something like that in the last couple days. We have good discussions as we are markedly different sounding/looking on the surface but have worked hard to find our common, human, compassionate, reasoned beliefs.

Some might argue we have already been attacked in our country and some may even say we are currently being terrorized from within and from outside. If we want Israel to decimate Gaza/Palestine for a small yet powerful terrorist organization, do we want our strong/weakened military to obliterate the US? Clearly, Hamas is a terrorist organization that has committed unspeakable atrocities we do not see in the US by our internal extremist groups, full stop. But, if we don't stop them now, will they become increasingly aggressive and murderous? I thought it was an interesting line of thinking.

Pakuni

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2023, 10:10:00 AM
In short, the entire world no longer fears the U.S. Biden has weakened the military, opened our borders, and bungled Afghanistan. His actions and reactions promote other countries to act without fear of U.S. retaliation or response.
Its just a matter of time before we see an attack from within our country. What are the consequences, hey?

Did Reagan's weakness cause the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the Lockerbie bombing and the first Intifada?



Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2023, 10:22:14 AM
Did Reagan's weakness cause the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon, the Lockerbie bombing and the first Intifada?

Yes and Bush caused 9-11 but Clinton caused the embassy bombings and the Cole bombings so it equals out
Guster is for Lovers

JWags85

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2023, 10:10:00 AM
In short, the entire world no longer fears the U.S. Biden has weakened the military, opened our borders, and bungled Afghanistan. His actions and reactions promote other countries to act without fear of U.S. retaliation or response.
Its just a matter of time before we see an attack from within our country. What are the consequences, hey?

With all due respect, I can't speak to the enemies of the US, but from a global perspective, views of the US as a global super power haven't shifted much, if at all.  I talk to people from SE Asia, India, and the Middle East weekly, and I don't hear it from them, and we talk geopolitics A LOT as it directly impacts our business.  And these are people that stand to gain greatly business wise from the rise of BRICS and/or a de-emphasis on the dollar.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
Tommy Tuberville thinks we shouldn't pick sides here.

Tuberville said in an interview with WBRC Alabama this week, "The problem is, when you start picking sides in the Middle East, it can get really messy very quick."


https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4252034-white-house-tubervilles-warning-israel-hamas-war-picking-sides/

Was this before or after he fell down the stairs getting out of that jet?

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 12, 2023, 10:29:55 AM
Was this before or after he fell down the stairs getting out of that jet?

Normally I don't "joke down" as taught to me by my late father in law, but if you haven't seen the video of him falling with the opening drums from Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" you're missing out.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2023, 10:10:00 AM
In short, the entire world no longer fears the U.S. Biden has weakened the military, opened our borders, and bungled Afghanistan. His actions and reactions promote other countries to act without fear of U.S. retaliation or response.
Its just a matter of time before we see an attack from within our country. What are the consequences, hey?

  unfortunately doc, you are right on.  we do not proudly admit this.  let's see how long the general "outrage" lasts.  just as 9-1-1, the outrage lasted, oh, about what?  1-2-3 weeks max, then the U.S. is to blame crowd slowly came back to life and is now acceptable to continue that blather.  pulling out of afghanistan the WAY we did only emboldened the terrorists


too many things going arse backwards with every decision the "big guy" has put forth. 

    our strategic oil reserves are dangerously low

    wide open border has allowed who knows how many terrorists and other country's worst in and roaming around. 

    the cartels are partnering with hamas and isis. 

   $80 billion worth of high tech military equipment left for terrorists putting them automatically into line with some of the most powerful militarys in the world. 

  our military recruitment numbers are way down due to the "policies" of this regime
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Hards Alumni on October 12, 2023, 10:29:55 AM
Was this before or after he fell down the stairs getting out of that jet?

oh boy, don't start with the falling down stuff
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 12, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
  unfortunately doc, you are right on.  we do not proudly admit this.  let's see how long the general "outrage" lasts.  just as 9-1-1, the outrage lasted, oh, about what?  1-2-3 weeks max, then the U.S. is to blame crowd slowly came back to life and is now acceptable to continue that blather.  pulling out of afghanistan the WAY we did only emboldened the terrorists


too many things going arse backwards with every decision the "big guy" has put forth. 

    our strategic oil reserves are dangerously low

    wide open border has allowed who knows how many terrorists and other country's worst in and roaming around. 

    the cartels are partnering with hamas and isis. 

   $80 billion worth of high tech military equipment left for terrorists putting them automatically into line with some of the most powerful militarys in the world. 

  our military recruitment numbers are way down due to the "policies" of this regime

7.5 out of 10
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

TSmith34, Inc.

#536
Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 12, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
    $80 billion worth of high tech military equipment left for terrorists putting them automatically into line with some of the most powerful militarys in the world. 
Right wing disinformation never really dies. At best, after it has been shown to be false, it hibernates for a little while before, cockroach-like, crawling back out from under the refrigerator, spewed from the mouths of morons who have no interest in actual facts.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on October 12, 2023, 10:52:37 AM
Right wing disinformation never really dies. At best, after it has been shown to be false, it hibernates for a little while before, cockroach-like, crawling back out from under the refrigerator, spewed from the mouths of morons who have no interest in actual facts.

I saw a thing this morning completing disproving as military experts identified the so-called "high Tech Equipment" was from North Korea, China & Iran.  Nothing from the West.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 12, 2023, 10:47:06 AM
oh boy, don't start with the falling down stuff

I think it's pretty funny to make fun of a guy falling down the stairs who had earlier made fun of a guy falling down the stairs.

If you don't see the humor on that, that's on you.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 12, 2023, 11:00:29 AM
I saw a thing this morning completing disproving as military experts identified the so-called "high Tech Equipment" was from North Korea, China & Iran.  Nothing from the West.

It's part of the buffoons deep state plot to make the military put rainbows on planes
Guster is for Lovers

Hards Alumni

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 12, 2023, 11:00:29 AM
I saw a thing this morning completing disproving as military experts identified the so-called "high Tech Equipment" was from North Korea, China & Iran.  Nothing from the West.

Not to mention the equipment left behind is left in a destroyed state or requires a ton of maintenance to remain functional.

But you know, number big, so outrage.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on October 12, 2023, 11:00:29 AM
I saw a thing this morning completing disproving as military experts identified the so-called "high Tech Equipment" was from North Korea, China & Iran.  Nothing from the West.
Dentists don't really care about your facts
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 12, 2023, 10:56:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DgZXp1PGnI

Appreciate you sharing this, normally I don't go out of my way to watch him, really none of the mainstream talking heads. Lots of facts and emotions in that video (some opinions, of course, but really it's about the facts and his personal ties and emotions that matter in his video). I could feel his pain, and certainly wish him peace.

Pakuni


Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on October 12, 2023, 12:04:31 PM
Oh bother, what are they going to complain about now?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/12/iran-oil-fund-us-israel/

The more the administration supports Israel, it'll either be it's not enough or if it goes on long enough, complaining that we're stuck supporting a losing cause.
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 12, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
  unfortunately doc, you are right on.  we do not proudly admit this.  let's see how long the general "outrage" lasts.  just as 9-1-1, the outrage lasted, oh, about what?  1-2-3 weeks max, then the U.S. is to blame crowd slowly came back to life and is now acceptable to continue that blather.  pulling out of afghanistan the WAY we did only emboldened the terrorists


too many things going arse backwards with every decision the "big guy" has put forth. 

    our strategic oil reserves are dangerously low

    wide open border has allowed who knows how many terrorists and other country's worst in and roaming around. 

    the cartels are partnering with hamas and isis. 

   $80 billion worth of high tech military equipment left for terrorists putting them automatically into line with some of the most powerful militarys in the world. 

  our military recruitment numbers are way down due to the "policies" of this regime

Given that you worship Putin's puppet, I guess it's not surprising that you're really on a roll with the misinformation and outright lies about this whole Israel situation.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 12, 2023, 10:45:52 AM
  unfortunately doc, you are right on.  we do not proudly admit this.  let's see how long the general "outrage" lasts.  just as 9-1-1, the outrage lasted, oh, about what?  1-2-3 weeks max, then the U.S. is to blame crowd slowly came back to life and is now acceptable to continue that blather.

The patriot act was a one time thing
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Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 12, 2023, 10:48:30 AM
7.5 out of 10

I mean, it's at least an 8 for bemoaning the "US is the blame crowd" while also blaming the U.S. for everything bad in the world.

MU82

From the NYT:

The United States and Qatar have agreed to deny Iran's access to $6 billion in funds recently transferred to the nation as part of a deal between Washington and Tehran that led to the release of five imprisoned Americans from Iran last month.

Wally Adeyemo, the deputy Treasury secretary, told House Democrats on Thursday that Iran would no longer have access to the funds, according to a person familiar with the matter. The money was under close supervision and strict conditions that it be used only for humanitarian purposes.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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