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lawdog77

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 08:25:50 AM
As stated above, those types of ppl already existed. However now that's a it's legal, you have those types and the new over the table type.
Never said anything to the contrary. My point is that it is still slimy. There are still schools and their boosters breaking the rules

jfp61

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 28, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
Never said anything to the contrary. My point is that it is still slimy. There are still schools and their boosters breaking the rules
Sure, but that happened both before and after NIL. It is just more visible today and its better for the athletes today than it was previously.

Viper

Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 28, 2023, 06:16:03 AM
Mmmmm casual racism.  Pretty gross, man.
Your call on that, of course, but I disagree. I was simply trying to convey that stereotyping is wrong, er, 'gross'.
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lawdog77

Quote from: jfp61 on September 28, 2023, 09:48:50 AM
Sure, but that happened both before and after NIL. It is just more visible today and its better for the athletes today than it was previously.
Not disagreeing, just disagreeing with panda who said it was no longer slimy.

panda

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 28, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
Never said anything to the contrary. My point is that it is still slimy. There are still schools and their boosters breaking the rules

It's all above board which makes it less slimy/illegal. Wisconsin wasn't paying players before NIL and now they're offering big money all within the rules of the game. IMO that changes the landscape of college sports when big schools who weren't playing the AAU shoe sponsor game now can spend their big donor money on players.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 11:09:43 AM
It's all above board which makes it less slimy/illegal. Wisconsin wasn't paying players before NIL and now they're offering big money all within the rules of the game. IMO that changes the landscape of college sports when big schools who weren't playing the AAU shoe sponsor game now can spend their big donor money on players.

Wisconsin had a lot of other benefits for their student athletes.  The former basketball coach was very loose with his university spending budget when it came to taking care of players.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 28, 2023, 07:52:43 AM
Every NIL is an "inducement" if it is part of the decision making process of the SA.
Not only that, NIL is a pay for play arrangement. Players are receiving NIL money in exchange for zero endorsements, participation in advertising or other goods and services. Play for school/team X you get a check every month. 

MU82

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panda

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2023, 11:13:44 AM
Wisconsin had a lot of other benefits for their student athletes.  The former basketball coach was very loose with his university spending budget when it came to taking care of players.

Not anymore than any other big time school.

panda

Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2023, 11:57:32 AM
How do you know?

First hand information. Plus the diamond stone recruitment laid out what I said very plainly.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 11:58:59 AM
Not anymore than any other big time school.

Correct.  Even the clean schools were doing things that weren't "legal"
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MU82

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 11:59:32 AM
First hand information. Plus the diamond stone recruitment laid out what I said very plainly.

First-hand information on Wisconsin NEVER cheating? OK.
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Wisconsin had boosters giving players money. I know that as an absolute fact. I have no idea if their athletic department knew the particulars, but they definitely knew it was happening. One of their highest profile (now deceased) boosters was notorious for it.
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panda

Quote from: MU82 on September 28, 2023, 12:47:43 PM
First-hand information on Wisconsin NEVER cheating? OK.

It's only coming from an assistant men's basketball coach complaining about how he couldn't go after several targets because they had their hand out for the highest bidder. Probably should've fact checked and cross referenced before posting it here.


The Sultan

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 01:24:55 PM
*within the last twenty years lol

Still an inaccurate statement.
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The Sultan

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 01:40:06 PM
Pipe down Rovell


Sorry you continue to be blind to the truth right in front of you, but you're just wrong here.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 01:20:57 PM
It's only coming from an assistant men's basketball coach complaining about how he couldn't go after several targets because they had their hand out for the highest bidder. Probably should've fact checked and cross referenced before posting it here.

Football players have been priority one during the Alvarez years
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The Sultan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on September 28, 2023, 02:05:50 PM
Football players have been priority one during the Alvarez years

Yep.
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wadesworld

Ah yes.  UW athletic coaches upset that they can't get recruits because they don't cheat and pay players, or they can't get in academically.  A tale as old as time.

The Sultan

Quote from: wadesworld on September 28, 2023, 02:23:06 PM
Ah yes.  UW athletic coaches upset that they can't get recruits because they don't cheat and pay players, or they can't get in academically.  A tale as old as time.


The dude believes that Homer is intentionally stepping away from Marquette basketball stuff because he asked Homer in a bar once. Let's just say he's a little gullible.
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MU82

Quote from: panda on September 28, 2023, 01:20:57 PM
It's only coming from an assistant men's basketball coach complaining about how he couldn't go after several targets because they had their hand out for the highest bidder. Probably should've fact checked and cross referenced before posting it here.

1. He knows nothing about what's going on in other programs, specifically football.

2. He did not necessarily know what Bo and/or other assistants were doing.

3. There's little reason anybody here has to believe this anecdote of yours anyway.
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panda

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on September 28, 2023, 01:59:01 PM

Sorry you continue to be blind to the truth right in front of you, but you're just wrong here.

As always you're technically correct. I forgot about the cheating scandal that happened such a long time ago, the newspaper article is xerox'ed onto the internet lol

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