Bitching About NIL

[Uncle Rico]

Nebraska football is a brand. There are thousands of people in the stands and millions watching on television. You take that Nebraska name off the front, and have them play in some off-campus site in Lincoln, do you think anyone is watching?  Of course not, because then its just minor league football.

Look, I get that the players are a valuable part of the process and should get paid what the market demands, but a lot of that market demand is based on who the player is playing for. You can't really dispute that.

Without top players?  You better believe Nebraska isn't a brand.  If it wasn't for the players, whatever brand Nebraska is, wouldn't exist. 

And the fact they've had bad teams for 20 years plus, is why at best, they're a Top-40 brand in college football.  If someone is watching Nebraska that isn't a Nebraska fan, it's because their team is playing them.

[Herman Cain]

Without top players?  You better believe Nebraska isn't a brand.  If it wasn't for the players, whatever brand Nebraska is, wouldn't exist. 

And the fact they've had bad teams for 20 years plus, is why at best, they're a Top-40 brand in college football.  If someone is watching Nebraska that isn't a Nebraska fan, it's because their team is playing them.

Nebraska fan base put up big money back in the day for skilled players from large urban centers . Some of those key funding sources have gone dry over the last twenty years as the individuals putting up the money died and their families did not continue with the funding.

[Uncle Rico]

Nebraska fan base put up big money back in the day for skilled players from large urban centers . Some of those key funding sources have gone dry over the last twenty years as the individuals putting up the money died and their families did not continue with the funding.

And they were afraid of Texas

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

At the highest levels of college football, men's basketball, and in select instances in a few other sports, there is a symbiotic relationship between the schools and the players. Both need each other and both won't succeed without each other.

Everywhere else in college sports, the players need the schools a lot more than the schools need them.

[lawdog77]

Nebraska football is a brand. There are thousands of people in the stands and millions watching on television. You take that Nebraska name off the front, and have them play in some off-campus site in Lincoln, do you think anyone is watching?  Of course not, because then its just minor league football.

Look, I get that the players are a valuable part of the process and should get paid what the market demands, but a lot of that market demand is based on who the player is playing for. You can't really dispute that.

Agree: Example #1, G-league basketball attendance:Compare that to P-6 basketball attendance
Numbers are total attendance, average attendance
1. Texas Legends   Frisco, TX   Dallas Mavericks   140,156   5,840
2. Iowa Wolves   Des Moines, IA   Minnesota Timberwolves   99,552   4,148
3. Rio Grande Valley Vipers   Edinburg, TX   Houston Rockets   89,993   3,750
4. Raptors 905   Mississauga, ON   Toronto Raptors   88,578   3,691
5. Mexico City Capitanes   Mexico City, Mexico      87,390   3,641
6. Grand Rapids Gold   Grand Rapids, MI   Denver Nuggets   78,081   3,253
7. Austin Spurs   Cedar Park, TX   San Antonio Spurs   70,932   2,956
8. Cleveland Charge   Cleveland, OH   Cleveland Cavaliers   68,760   2,865
9. Wisconsin Herd   Oshkosh, WI   Milwaukee Bucks   68,319   2,847
10. G League Ignite   Henderson, NV      67,014   2,792
11. Birmingham Squadron   Birmingham, AL   New Orleans Pelicans   65,682   2,737
12. Santa Cruz Warriors   Santa Cruz, CA   Golden State Warriors   62,046   2,585
13. Windy City Bulls   Hoffman Estates, IL   Chicago Bulls   60,605   2,525
14. Long Island Nets   Uniondale, NY   Brooklyn Nets   51,906   2,163
15. Sioux Falls Skyforce   Sioux Falls, SD   Miami Heat   50,429   2,101
16. Maine Celtics   Portland, ME   Boston Celtics   50,256   2,094
17. Fort Wayne   Fort Wayne, IN / Indianapolis, IN   Indiana Pacers   49,103   2,046
18. Lakeland Magic   Lakeland, FL   Orlando Magic   48,100   2,004
19. Oklahoma City Blue   Oklahoma City, OK   Oklahoma City Thunder   46,194   1,925
20. Salt Lake City Stars   West Valley City, UT / Salt Lake City, UT   Utah Jazz   44,139   1,839
21. College Park Skyhawks   College Park, GA   Atlanta Hawks   38,987   1,624
22. Stockton Kings   Stockton, CA   Sacramento Kings   35,981   1,499
23. Greensboro Swarm   Greensboro, NC   Charlotte Hornets   33,790   1,408
24. Delaware Blue Coats   Wilmington, DE   Philadelphia 76ers   33,766   1,407
25. Motor City Cruise   Detroit, MI   Detroit Pistons   30,391   1,266
26. Memphis Hustle   Southaven, MS   Memphis Grizzlies   26,257   1,094
27. Capital City Go-Go   Washington, D.C.   Washington Wizards   25,837   1,076
28. Ontario Clippers   Ontario, CA   Los Angeles Clippers   24,281   1,012
29. Westchester Knicks   Bridgeport, CT   New York Knicks   17,052   711
30. South Bay Lakers   El Segundo, CA   Los Angeles Lakers   10,585   441

[The Sultan]

Without top players?  You better believe Nebraska isn't a brand.  If it wasn't for the players, whatever brand Nebraska is, wouldn't exist. 

No kidding. I never claimed otherwise.

And the fact they've had bad teams for 20 years plus, is why at best, they're a Top-40 brand in college football.  If someone is watching Nebraska that isn't a Nebraska fan, it's because their team is playing them.

Yeah, but Nebraska fans DO watch. They count right?

[Viper]

Let the young kids entertain us for free so the rich white TV execs can swim around in cash.  Ah, I too miss those days.

no rich black tv execs? Damn cracker, right?

[Jay Bee]

White dudes like wads luv 2 play the race card

[WhiteTrash]

White dudes like wads luv 2 play the race card

Wade's doesn't believe black people should be rich or tv execs.

[wadesworld]

The reality is most TV execs are white men.

[Viper]

The reality is most TV execs are white men.

...your point?

[panda]

The reality is most TV execs are white men.

And most basketball players are black. Maybe you should start qualifying those statements with race too.

[wadesworld]

And most basketball players are black. Maybe you should start qualifying those statements with race too.

Correct. So the young black college student athletes should go back to appreciating what they have and let all those rich white men keep all that money.

[panda]

Correct. So the young black college student athletes should go back to appreciating what they have and let all those rich white men keep all that money.

Your words not mine. Pretty pathetic imo

[wadesworld]

Your words not mine. Pretty pathetic imo

Agreed. Finally got through to your head apparently.

[panda]

Agreed. Finally got through to your head apparently.

My facetious statement made in jest is pathetic as was your serious one. Do the math genius

[wadesworld]

My facetious statement made in jest is pathetic as was your serious one. Do the math genius

You're really struggling here.

[panda]

You're really struggling here.

Nice try....

[WhiteTrash]

Wades, tell us the bed time story of how the dirty Jews are ruining the world.

[MU62]

I read about nil and Marquette and wonder how much the players are receiving.  I know it is self employment income and they are receiving forms 1099- NEC.  That is non employee compensation.  I do not know how many entities are sending out these forms to the players.  I hear rumors about large sums of money paid to athletes from other schools.  I have no idea.  Are we talking totals for our men basketball players of 3,4,5,6,7 figures.  For some is the amount 0?  Is this a big dark secret or are there facts or speculation?  For MU I don't have a clue- by the way self employment income is highly taxed with self employment tax of 15.3% on top of Federal income tax and state income tax.  State of residency probably comes into play.  That could be a can of worms.

[Viper]

Correct. So the young black college student athletes should go back to appreciating what they have and let all those rich white men keep all that money.

must suck being that young black college student athlete when you can't make baskets or score touchdowns for the team anymore, hey? I mean, rich whitie gonna kick ya to the curb and to a life of pimpin', jackin' and dealin'. Damn white man and his privilege. Right?

[El Guerrero 2]

must suck being that young black college student athlete when you can't make baskets or score touchdowns for the team anymore, hey? I mean, rich whitie gonna kick ya to the curb and to a life of pimpin', jackin' and dealin'. Damn white man and his privilege. Right?

I don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here, but I do know it wasn't worth trying to make it in this fashion.

[Viper]

I don't know exactly what point you're trying to make here, but I do know it wasn't worth trying to make it in this fashion.

...sure. My point, albeit maybe not made in the best way, is simply that wadesworld seems to often play the race card and stereotypes. So, was trying to make a point that playing race card/stereotyping is garbage.

[Jay Bee]

I read about nil and Marquette and wonder how much the players are receiving.  I know it is self employment income and they are receiving forms 1099- NEC.  That is non employee compensation.  I do not know how many entities are sending out these forms to the players.  I hear rumors about large sums of money paid to athletes from other schools.  I have no idea.  Are we talking totals for our men basketball players of 3,4,5,6,7 figures.  For some is the amount 0?  Is this a big dark secret or are there facts or speculation?  For MU I don't have a clue- by the way self employment income is highly taxed with self employment tax of 15.3% on top of Federal income tax and state income tax.  State of residency probably comes into play.  That could be a can of worms.

It is an issue now, but may not surface for quite some time. Then, we'll start hearing about student athletes who are shocked to "learn" they owe back taxes and penalties, and the blame game will be played. It's gonna be a mess

[Uncle Rico]

It is an issue now, but may not surface for quite some time. Then, we'll start hearing about student athletes who are shocked to "learn" they owe back taxes and penalties, and the blame game will be played. It's gonna be a mess

Yeah, the people in charge could have prevented this instead of hiding behind "but AmAtEuRiSm".  Anyone with half a brain, apparently not those in charge of college athletics, knew this day would arrive.