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MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 24, 2023, 10:22:36 PM
You STILL cannot bring yourself to focus on the deaths of humans for even one single moment, can you? Jeezus, Muggsy, stop being the attorney for the alligator long enough to say something more than the need for adults regarding "understanding their surroundings and certain dangers". Twenty four posts in and you cannot do it. To use one of your favorite words, inexcusable.

Is there a rule that I have to focus more on human deaths than other species?  I focus on humans as well but each situation is different.  I will admit that in most Buffalo/human confrontations I root for the 🐃..  I suppose I'm a little biased with a lot of these stories. 

wadesworld

I tried fried gator for the first time last weekend.  I'm not a seafood fan so it wasn't my favorite, but it wasn't the worst seafood I've had.  Worth frying them to keep them from murdering humans.  My final verdict is eat more gators so the gators don't eat you.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on September 24, 2023, 10:10:40 PM
Gator does taste like a slightly chewier version of chicken. It's delicious.

I thought it tastes more like a cross between Califonia Condor and Spotted Owl.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2023, 06:13:51 AM
Is there a rule that I have to focus more on human deaths than other species?  I focus on humans as well but each situation is different.  I will admit that in most Buffalo/human confrontations I root for the 🐃..  I suppose I'm a little biased wacko with a lot of these stories.

FIFY
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

lawdog77

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2023, 06:13:51 AM
Is there a rule that I have to focus more on human deaths than other species?  I focus on humans as well but each situation is different.  I will admit that in most Buffalo/human confrontations I root for the 🐃..  I suppose I'm a little biased with a lot of these stories.
But yet, you still eat animal flesh

pbiflyer

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 25, 2023, 03:57:04 PM
But yet, you still eat animal flesh

Meat is murder!......tasty, tasty murder.

WellsstreetWanderer

Didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat vegetables

MuggsyB

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on September 25, 2023, 01:44:41 PM
FIFY

This is a bit harsh.  There are many advocates for alligators and other members of our tremendous animal kingdom.   I was just curious why he/she presumably snapped. 

tower912

It is in the gator's nature to do so.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

#34
Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2023, 07:35:56 PM
It is in the gator's nature to do so.

This is fairly unusual Tower.  As others have pointed out they're actually rather chill with the human population.  If they weren't we would see many, many, many, more incidents like this one.  It's when they are fed or trifled  with where they become dangerous. 

pbiflyer

The gator that was in our back yard was pretty chill.

tower912

Or maybe she was sleeping on the ground.   In that scenario, she is just another manageably small mammal to eat.   Or scooping water to drink.   Anything that would make her seem small enough to be managed.

Unless their is video, it is unlikely we will ever be certain.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on September 25, 2023, 08:01:50 PM
Or maybe she was sleeping on the ground.   In that scenario, she is just another manageably small mammal to eat.   Or scooping water to drink.   Anything that would make her seem small enough to be managed.

Unless their is video, it is unlikely we will ever be certain.

Your theory is possible but not particularly plausible. 

real chili 83

What would you think of a gator that attacked a manatee?  Who would you root for?

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: real chili 83 on September 25, 2023, 08:51:42 PM
What would you think of a gator that attacked a manatee?  Who would you root for?
Next Gen Kong vs Godzilla

MuggsyB

Quote from: real chili 83 on September 25, 2023, 08:51:42 PM
What would you think of a gator that attacked a manatee?  Who would you root for?

It's extremely rare for a gator to bite a manatee, let alone attack.    In this unlikely hypothetical scenario I would root for the manatee.  I believe manatees have been misunderstood and are in some trouble as a species. 

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2023, 11:10:48 PM
It's extremely rare for a gator to bite a manatee, let alone attack.    In this unlikely hypothetical scenario I would root for the manatee.  I believe manatees have been misunderstood and are in some trouble as a species.

Manatees wouldn't be in this situation if they just focused

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 25, 2023, 11:10:48 PM
It's extremely rare for a gator to bite a manatee, let alone attack.    In this unlikely hypothetical scenario I would root for the manatee.  I believe manatees have been misunderstood and are in some trouble as a species.

Well, if it's rare or unlikely, that would seem to suggest that the manatee trifled with or provoked the gator. So, it had it coming. These things don't happen unless the gator is provoked.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: real chili 83 on September 25, 2023, 08:51:42 PM
What would you think of a gator that attacked a manatee?  Who would you root for?

Surf and turf.

MuggsyB

Quote from: StillAWarrior on September 26, 2023, 05:32:11 AM
Well, if it's rare or unlikely, that would seem to suggest that the manatee trifled with or provoked the gator. So, it had it coming. These things don't happen unless the gator is provoked.

I was simply thinking out loud and asked a question to begin this thread. Now you and others are just being silly.  The fact is the numbers are like 1 in 3 million for a gator to bite a human.  This unfortunate event is more like 1 in 100 million.  So therefore it's perfectly reasonable to ask about what happened. 

tower912

442 between 1948 and 2021.   26 deaths.  One fatal attack roughly every 3 years.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

real chili 83

#46
😱

StillAWarrior

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 26, 2023, 09:04:13 AM
I was simply thinking out loud and asked a question to begin this thread. Now you and others are just being silly.  The fact is the numbers are like 1 in 3 million for a gator to bite a human.  This unfortunate event is more like 1 in 100 million.  So therefore it's perfectly reasonable to ask about what happened.

What are the numbers for a gator to bite a manatee? If it's rare -- as you yourself stated -- isn't it perfectly reasonable to ask about what happened? How the manatee provoked the attack?


The reason you get pushback on this issue is because all your perfectly reasonable questions after animal attacks follow a common pattern. Earlier, you were asked, "Who would you root for?" Over an extended period of time, you've made it abundantly clear who you would root for in pretty much every animal/human interaction. It's predictable enough at this point that it's become a punchline. We're just having some fun with you.


Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

muwarrior69

Quote from: ChitownSpaceForRent on September 24, 2023, 10:22:25 AM
We used to have a place like less than a mile away from there and golfed at a course like two blocks from there.

There were gators in those ponds all the time. I would imagine she provoked it in some way. Gators are incredibly chill if you just leave them alone.

Winter of '96 was extremely cold. Our team attended a seminar in Tampa at a golf course resort whose name I can't recall. All the rooms  were ground level with outdoor entry. One evening the temperature dropped to 28 degrees which was a low temperature record at the time. The next morning when I opened the door to my room to go down to the conference center not one but two gators raced right past me into my room I imagine to get warm. They were small gators about 3 to 4 feet but they sure scared the crap out of me. I called security from my co-workers phone in the next room to make sure house keeping was aware that they should not enter my room.

MuggsyB

Quote from: StillAWarrior on September 26, 2023, 12:38:59 PM
What are the numbers for a gator to bite a manatee? If it's rare -- as you yourself stated -- isn't it perfectly reasonable to ask about what happened? How the manatee provoked the attack?


The reason you get pushback on this issue is because all your perfectly reasonable questions after animal attacks follow a common pattern. Earlier, you were asked, "Who would you root for?" Over an extended period of time, you've made it abundantly clear who you would root for in pretty much every animal/human interaction. It's predictable enough at this point that it's become a punchline. We're just having some fun with you.

Okay.  I have admitted I am biased in most of these confrontations. 

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