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Viper

Quote from: shoothoops on August 11, 2023, 10:34:10 AM
This is a strange and obtuse post.

What has hapoened in Maui is very sad, tragic, and devastating for may.

Natural disasters aren't a compare and contrast contest. 1400 people died in Katrina for example.

There is a long list of many other bad natural disasters too. None are good and they don't really need to be compared or ranked.
harsh, buddy. I mean, come on.
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DoctorV

With the event being held stateside twice in recent history, and once in Vegas, it would make sense that Vegas is an easy option as long as there is an open venue.
Accommodations are plentiful and Vegas is always looking to add tourism and high profile events.

Selfishly, now knowing that a Chicago based event runs the show, it would be awesome if they held it in Chicago.
The United Center currently has nothing scheduled on those days, but NBA schedule gets released next week so the Bulls are in play.
Allstate in Rosemont looks open (17,500) and Wintrust (10k) could be alternative options with more affordable rent/fees.

Either way, Kemper can slap its name on a few things and really push a marketing/donation campaign that will really benefit those residents in Lahaina that really need all the good will they can get.

The Sultan

Quote from: DoctorV on August 12, 2023, 01:21:00 PM
With the event being held stateside twice in recent history, and once in Vegas, it would make sense that Vegas is an easy option as long as there is an open venue.
Accommodations are plentiful and Vegas is always looking to add tourism and high profile events.

Selfishly, now knowing that a Chicago based event runs the show, it would be awesome if they held it in Chicago.
The United Center currently has nothing scheduled on those days, but NBA schedule gets released next week so the Bulls are in play.
Allstate in Rosemont looks open (17,500) and Wintrust (10k) could be alternative options with more affordable rent/fees.

Either way, Kemper can slap its name on a few things and really push a marketing/donation campaign that will really benefit those residents in Lahaina that really need all the good will they can get.



I doubt they move it to Wintrust since it's one of our homecourts.
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79Warrior

Quote from: warriorchick on August 12, 2023, 10:16:17 AM
I think that there is a decent chance that the tournament will be relocated stateside.

The company that runs the tournament, Kemper Sports, is based in Chicago, so they have no particular affinity to Maui or Hawaii.  Even if they find a place to play other than the original venue in Maui, many of the hotel rooms where fans were going to stay are either gone or uninhabitable.  There's a good chance the transportation systems (roads, airports, rental car places) won't be back to normal by tournament time.  Nearly everyone involved is going to have to change their plans one way or the other.

The lineup for this tourney is arguably the best in Thanksgiving tournament history. If you are really trying hard to find the slimmest of silver linings here, they could move it to a place in the continental US where they could sell a lot more tickets.  That week tends to be dead as far as scheduled events go.  My guess is there are plenty of places that have availability.

Not sure you are correct. Most hotels there survived and will be ok. There is one main airport in Maui and it is fully operational. The destruction unfortunately was centered in Lahaina, which has a handful of hotels. The major resorts in the rest of the island are ok.

warriorchick

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 12, 2023, 10:32:35 AM
I'm thinking (hoping) there's far greater than a decent chance of it coming stateside. Only question is if they go the "Easy route", say Vegas, or does something a bit more unconventional come up?

I would 100% support Vegas. Plenty of venues and the additional pressure on town wouldn't even move the needle.

Plus I will be in town then.  ;D
Have some patience, FFS.

warriorchick

Quote from: SaveOD238 on August 12, 2023, 12:54:23 PM
Based on Chicago you say?

Is the UC open that week?

I actually interviewed with them for a job awhile back. Walked into their reception area and saw a surfboard with Buzz Williams' autograph on it.

Every person I interviewed with asked me if I was okay with working serious amounts of overtime year round. I wasn't, so no second interview.
Have some patience, FFS.

warriorchick

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 12, 2023, 02:41:00 PM

I doubt they move it to Wintrust since it's one of our homecourts.

So what? Chaminade plays on a home court every year, and no one seems to care
Have some patience, FFS.

HutchwasClutch

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Quote from: warriorchick on August 12, 2023, 03:17:00 PM
I would 100% support Vegas. Plenty of venues and the additional pressure on town wouldn't even move the needle.

Plus I will be in town then.  ;D

That seems the most logical if they have to move it this year.  You want a fun and warm place.  It won't get moved to Chicago regardless of the Kemper involvement as mentioned here. Nothing more depressing for the teams than a late November tournament in the Midwest where it's getting cold and dreary.  Especially when you thought you were going to Maui.

Vegas probably has no issue with hotel space and a venue that time of year too I'm guessing.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: warriorchick on August 12, 2023, 03:32:12 PM
So what? Chaminade plays on a home court every year, and no one seems to care

That's because they're Division 2 and probably haven't won a game in this tournament since beating Ralph Sampson and VA in '82.

MuggsyB

So according to CNN Hawaii has the "largest outdoor alarm system in the world".  It wasn't activated for some reason?????   I've also heard that residents got phone alerts well after smoke was everywhere and could be seen for miles. 

If I'm not mistaken 6-7 years ago there was a missile alert urging people to take cover immediately in Hawaii on every phone, television, and radio.  15 minutes later it was deemed a false alarm. 

shoothoops

Quote from: Viper on August 12, 2023, 01:08:57 PM
harsh, buddy. I mean, come on.

The exchange speaks for itself. I have nothing else to add or change to previous exchange.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: warriorchick on August 12, 2023, 03:32:12 PM
So what? Chaminade plays on a home court every year, and no one seems to care

Chaminade is located in Honolulu, not Maui. 

warriorchick

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on August 12, 2023, 06:17:47 PM
Chaminade is located in Honolulu, not Maui.

And Marquette is in Milwaukee, not Chicago.

Have some patience, FFS.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: warriorchick on August 12, 2023, 07:22:59 PM
And Marquette is in Milwaukee, not Chicago.

And Chicago is not Hoffman Estates, perhaps the worst Thanksgiving tournament off all time.

muwarrior69

#89
https://nypost.com/2023/08/12/historic-lahaina-church-stands-miraculously-untouched-by-maui-wildfires/

A separate collection at my parish mass this evening is going to Catholic charities to aid families in Lahaina.

dgies9156

If you have to move it, why not Honolulu so Hawai'i still gets the benefit.

If it comes to the mainland. I'd like Orlando!

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: dgies9156 on August 12, 2023, 08:38:59 PM
If you have to move it, why not Honolulu so Hawai'i still gets the benefit.

If it comes to the mainland. I'd like Orlando!

Agreed Honolulu would be perfect.

Jay Bee

This tourney can get 10k plus interested ppl, so don't limit it. Get the largest arena possible, capable of catering to an influx .. it's Vegas
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MileHigh

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 12, 2023, 05:12:34 PM
So according to CNN Hawaii has the "largest outdoor alarm system in the world".  It wasn't activated for some reason?????   I've also heard that residents got phone alerts well after smoke was everywhere and could be seen for miles. 

If I'm not mistaken 6-7 years ago there was a missile alert urging people to take cover immediately in Hawaii on every phone, television, and radio.  15 minutes later it was deemed a false alarm.

When the Boulder fire hit us in Colorado the other year, the wind accelerated the wild fire so fast, the emergency notifications were too late. The situation changed so rapidly that OEM was playing catch-up trying to alert people. The destruction was just too fast.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 12, 2023, 04:44:05 PM
That's because they're Division 2 and probably haven't won a game in this tournament since beating Ralph Sampson and VA in '82.

They beat Rick Barnes and Texas one year I remember. Not sure if they had any others.
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Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on August 12, 2023, 10:21:06 PM
They beat Rick Barnes and Texas one year I remember. Not sure if they had any others.

They've had 8 total actually.  I figured they had more than I was remembering but didn't expect more than 5.

And the VA win isn't actually counted as a tournament win.  I don't think it was considered a tournament yet in '82.

Their last win was 2017 against Cal. Texas (good memory) was in 2012. 

warriorchick

Quote from: Jay Bee on August 12, 2023, 09:20:11 PM
This tourney can get 10k plus interested ppl, so don't limit it. Get the largest arena possible, capable of catering to an influx .. it's Vegas

And some or all of the additional ticket sales could go to Maui disaster relief.
Have some patience, FFS.

brewcity77

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on August 12, 2023, 04:44:05 PM
That's because they're Division 2 and probably haven't won a game in this tournament since beating Ralph Sampson and VA in '82.

They've actually won 8 times in the tournament, most recently in 2017 when they beat Cal (Marquette took 3rd that year). The 1982 Virginia win wasn't part of the Maui Invitational, but helped lead to its creation.


MuggsyB

Quote from: MileHigh on August 12, 2023, 09:26:01 PM
When the Boulder fire hit us in Colorado the other year, the wind accelerated the wild fire so fast, the emergency notifications were too late. The situation changed so rapidly that OEM was playing catch-up trying to alert people. The destruction was just too fast.

I'm just surprised it apparently didn't go off at all.  It spread so fast but maybe it could have gotten people out of there more quickly.  I dunno. 

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