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Uncle Rico

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Religion is Doomed
« on: July 22, 2023, 06:46:38 AM »
In some good news, a new poll shows belief in such things as god and the devil have declined.  The future of god is grim

https://www.yahoo.com/news/belief-god-devil-falls-low-164300978.html
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2023, 07:11:50 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 22, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
In some good news, a new poll shows belief in such things as god and the devil have declined.  The future of god is grim

https://www.yahoo.com/news/belief-god-devil-falls-low-164300978.html

But the future of grim is on a nice little run.  Unless you stop it. 
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2023, 08:51:38 AM »
Too much about the profits.  Not enough about the prophets.   Too much fear mongering, not enough Golden Rule.   Anybody advocating hate in God's name simply has it wrong.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2023, 11:16:17 AM »
Just looking at the poll itself, there were a few interesting numbers. The one that surprised me the most: "While 94 percent of Protestants said they believe in God, 85 percent of Catholics said the same."

In other words, 15% of people who identify as Catholics don't even believe in god.

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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2023, 11:43:58 AM »
Quote from: MU82 on July 22, 2023, 11:16:17 AM
Just looking at the poll itself, there were a few interesting numbers. The one that surprised me the most: "While 94 percent of Protestants said they believe in God, 85 percent of Catholics said the same."

In other words, 15% of people who identify as Catholics don't even believe in god.
That's not weird. How many women don't think they are a woman, or men don't believe they are a man?  ;)
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2023, 11:53:38 AM »
Nvm
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2023, 11:57:08 AM »
Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 22, 2023, 11:43:58 AM
That's not weird. How many women don't think they are a woman, or men don't believe they are a man?  ;)

Perfect response from you, including the  ;)
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2023, 03:35:53 PM »
Quote from: MU82 on July 22, 2023, 11:16:17 AM
Just looking at the poll itself, there were a few interesting numbers. The one that surprised me the most: "While 94 percent of Protestants said they believe in God, 85 percent of Catholics said the same."

In other words, 15% of people who identify as Catholics don't even believe in god.

Catholicism is going the way of Judaism, where it is becoming a cultural affinity as much as it is a religious one.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2023, 05:44:34 PM »
Quote from: warriorchick on July 22, 2023, 03:35:53 PM
Catholicism is going the way of Judaism, where it is becoming a cultural affinity as much as it is a religious one.

Yeah but catholicism isn't exactly something that the non-religious would want to associate with given its recent (and really, entire) history. Plus you don't even get to treat yourself to a fun birthright trip to a war zone.
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MU82

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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2023, 07:15:56 PM »
Quote from: warriorchick on July 22, 2023, 03:35:53 PM
Catholicism is going the way of Judaism, where it is becoming a cultural affinity as much as it is a religious one.

I have experience with the Judaism half of that but not the Catholicism half, so I'll take your word for it. That would explain at least some of the polling.

I just took a look at the poll (not just the article) and Jewish people's views were never mentioned. I'd have been interested to see them.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2023, 09:56:08 PM »
Quote from: warriorchick on July 22, 2023, 03:35:53 PM
Catholicism is going the way of Judaism, where it is becoming a cultural affinity as much as it is a religious one.

I could see how this is true. I know a lot of people that were raised Catholic, and confirmed Catholic, but really don't believe in religion anymore. They still identify as Catholic though.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2023, 06:28:19 AM »
Quote from: forgetful on July 22, 2023, 09:56:08 PM
I could see how this is true. I know a lot of people that were raised Catholic, and confirmed Catholic, but really don't believe in religion anymore. They still identify as Catholic though.

That’s bc they don’t want to be associated with the racist / homophobic / xenophobic mess that is Evangelicals. 
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2023, 06:47:22 AM »
Quote from: The Lens on July 23, 2023, 06:28:19 AM
That’s bc they don’t want to be associated with the racist / homophobic / xenophobic mess that is Evangelicals.

I probably should say something about white nationalists as well.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2023, 08:49:03 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 22, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
In some good news, a new poll shows belief in such things as god and the devil have declined.  The future of god is grim

https://www.yahoo.com/news/belief-god-devil-falls-low-164300978.html

...and you went to Marquette?
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2023, 08:51:47 AM »
Quote from: muwarrior69 on July 23, 2023, 08:49:03 AM
...and you went to Marquette?

What does going to school at Marquette have to do with understanding the destruction caused for centuries by religion?  Or understanding if there is a god, pretty safe bet none of the religions of the world have a clue about such a thing?  Or understanding the dangerous road America is on forcing religious zealotry on citizens who don’t believe in such things?
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2023, 09:11:19 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 22, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
In some good news, a new poll shows belief in such things as god and the devil have declined.  The future of god is grim

https://www.yahoo.com/news/belief-god-devil-falls-low-164300978.html

The future of God is grim?

In spite of your poll, I'm betting on God.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2023, 09:16:20 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 23, 2023, 08:51:47 AM
What does going to school at Marquette have to do with understanding the destruction caused for centuries by religion?  Or understanding if there is a god, pretty safe bet none of the religions of the world have a clue about such a thing?  Or understanding the dangerous road America is on forcing religious zealotry on citizens who don’t believe in such things?

America is doomed
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2023, 09:22:47 AM »
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 23, 2023, 09:11:19 AM
In spite of your poll, I'm betting on God.

Egyptians in 616 AD: "I'm betting on Ra."

Norse in 1066 AD: "I'm betting on Odin."

Hellenics in 1912: "I'm betting on Zeus."

Heaven's Gate in 1997: "I'm betting on Hale-Bopp."
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Uncle Rico

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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2023, 09:29:54 AM »
Quote from: Heisenberg v2.0 on July 23, 2023, 09:16:20 AM
America is doomed

Yes, if we let the religious fundamentalists have their way
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2023, 09:31:57 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on July 23, 2023, 09:22:47 AM
Egyptians in 616 AD: "I'm betting on Ra."

Norse in 1066 AD: "I'm betting on Odin."

Hellenics in 1912: "I'm betting on Zeus."

Heaven's Gate in 1997: "I'm betting on Hale-Bopp."

Your point is??
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2023, 09:34:24 AM »
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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2023, 09:45:08 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 23, 2023, 09:34:24 AM
Odin > Christian God

That's fine. It's a binary choice that everyone makes.

But God, as with Mark Twain-----the reports of His demise are greatly exaggerated.
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Uncle Rico

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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2023, 09:53:07 AM »
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 23, 2023, 09:45:08 AM
That's fine. It's a binary choice that everyone makes.

But God, as with Mark Twain-----the reports of His demise are greatly exaggerated.

Well, Mark Twain was real
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lawdog77

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Re: Religion is Doomed
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2023, 10:27:19 AM »
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 23, 2023, 09:53:07 AM
Well, Mark Twain was real
Actually, he wasn't.  Samuel Langhorne Clemens was real.
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Re: Religion is Doomed
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