2024-25 NFL Thread

[MuggsyB]

Daniels is cooking

Fields is 3-0.

Trubisky is biding his time learning under a top 2 QB in the NFL.

Sheesh.



At least we didn't draft Bryce?

True but Daniels has superstar potential. 

[Dish]

What I was really impressed with was Daniels poise. Still have legit concerns about his frame and holding up over a season, but that's as impressive a QB performance you'll see, pretty awesome.

[MuggsyB]

What I was really impressed with was Daniels poise. Still have legit concerns about his frame and holding up over a season, but that's as impressive a QB performance you'll see, pretty awesome.

It's a fair concern but he certainly has all the tools and intangibles you would want in a qb. 

[GB Warrior]

It's a fair concern but he certainly has all the tools and intangibles you would want in a qb.

Doesn't paint his nails

[Jockey]

Daniels is cooking

Fields is 3-0.

Trubisky is biding his time learning under a top 2 QB in the NFL.

Sheesh.

At least we didn't draft Bryce?

Fields is exactly the same failure as he was in Chicago. Trubisky is a career backup.

[The Sultan]

Chicago's quarterback problems come down to drafting top ten guys without changing the coaching staff, only to turn around and give them a completely new offense to run in season number two. They did it with Trubisky and Fields. Will they do it with Williams too?

Compare that to Burrows, Love, Purdy, Stroud, etc. All have had to learn one offense since entering the league.

And how Washington approached the Daniels' situation. Getting him a former college coach in year one who got more out of Kyler Murray than anyone since. (Granted he's been hurt.)

[lawdog77]

Fields is exactly the same failure as he was in Chicago. Trubisky is a career backup.

Not sure how you can call a guy who is 3-0 a failure. His rating puts him squarely in the middle of the quarterbacks (rating 12/31, QBR 21/31). I'd call him "average" which is quite the success , actually.

[Uncle Rico]

Trevor Lawrence with a solid 21-38-178-1-1, 4.7 YPA.  Solid in close loss

[Uncle Rico]

Not sure how you can call a guy who is 3-0 a failure. His rating puts him squarely in the middle of the quarterbacks (rating 12/31, QBR 21/31). I'd call him "average" which is quite the success , actually.

Not only is Fields thriving in Pittsburgh, Daniels is light years ahead of Williams.  Seats are getting hot in Chicago

[MuggsyB]

Not only is Fields thriving in Pittsburgh, Daniels is light years ahead of Williams.  Seats are getting hot in Chicago

That slam the door TD he threw wasn't your average rookie play.  That doesn't mean he won't have ups and downs but you can see the talent.

The Bears have like 30 coaches and none of them have any idea what they are doing.  Eberjoke is 11-27 with one of the weakest schedules ever.  And their schedule this year is soft as well.  They have a number of talented players but their system and play calling is abysmal among many other issues.   

[Uncle Rico]

That slam the door TD he threw wasn't your average rookie play.  That doesn't mean he won't have ups and downs but you can see the talent.

The Bears have like 30 coaches and none of them have any idea what they are doing.  Eberjoke is 11-27 with one of the weakest schedules ever.  And their schedule this year is soft as well.  They have a number of talented players but their system and play calling is abysmal among many other issues.

It's a terrible organization.  Rotten from the top-to-bottom.  Hopefully for them, Williams can overcome the rot.  Won't be easy, especially in such a strong division.

[MuggsyB]

It's a terrible organization.  Rotten from the top-to-bottom.  Hopefully for them, Williams can overcome the rot.  Won't be easy, especially in such a strong division.

Agreed.  That's likely 6 losses. 

[Jockey]

Not sure how you can call a guy who is 3-0 a failure. His rating puts him squarely in the middle of the quarterbacks (rating 12/31, QBR 21/31). I'd call him "average" which is quite the success , actually.

Defense.

Fields has won nothing - simply a game manager.

[lawdog77]

Defense.

Fields has won nothing - simply a game manager.

Not disagreeing with that. He's 3-0, so he has been a success managing.

[Jockey]

Not disagreeing with that. He's 3-0, so he has been a success managing.

We can agree on that.

[Jockey]

Chicago threw the ball 52 times against a team that gave up 473 rushing yards in the first two weeks.

Okay, then.

[PGsHeroes32]

Bears are definitely the worst coached team in the division. That's pretty definitive.

Let's see how the talent comes along through the season to overcome it.

[Pakuni]

Chicago threw the ball 52 times against a team that gave up 473 rushing yards in the first two weeks.

Okay, then.

To be fair, they did try running the ball in the first half and failed pretty badly. They had 28 rushing attempts in the game, which is above league average. At some point, running for the sake of running is just wasting plays. You have to accept the game that you're playing, not the one you want to play.
The Bears didn't lose because they couldn't move the ball - they had 26 first downs (league average is about 19 per game) -  they lost because of turnovers and negative plays.

[Jockey]

The Bears didn't lose because they couldn't move the ball - they had 26 first downs (league average is about 19 per game) -  they lost because of turnovers and negative plays.

Sounds oddly familiar.

New QB, new OC. Same result.

Forget the 'wow' plays. Get a QB who is consistent in the pocket. Well, actually they need an OL that can create a pocket.

[cheebs09]

Not disagreeing with that. He's 3-0, so he has been a success managing.

Wins aren't a QB stat, but he's doing a good job of scoring enough for the defense to keep the opponent out of the end zone.

[Jay Bee]

He's no Sam Darnold. #Skol

[JWags85]

Trubisky is biding his time learning under a top 2 QB in the NFL.

He's 30 biding his time under a guy a few years younger than him?  Mitch will stick in the league until his mid 30s at least, but he's not some diamond in the rough who is still waiting for his chance.

Interesting concept to provide your rookie QB with a good/great offensive line.

And mentioned before, an OC super familiar and skilled with the kind of QB that Daniels is.  Like there couldn't be a better fit for Daniels than Kingsbury.

The Bears didn't F-up drafting Williams over Daniels.  Daniels wouldn't be able to do what he's doing in Chicago.  He was fine the first 2 weeks, but nothing special.  But Kingsbury was setting him up for success with good play calling and getting him into a rhythm with a scheme that let him complete passes and get comfortable with protection and a decent running game in front of him.  Meanwhile Williams has been getting murdered with a passing scheme that makes little sense.

[jesmu84]

He's 30 biding his time under a guy a few years younger than him?  Mitch will stick in the league until his mid 30s at least, but he's not some diamond in the rough who is still waiting for his chance.


And mentioned before, an OC super familiar and skilled with the kind of QB that Daniels is.  Like there couldn't be a better fit for Daniels than Kingsbury.

The Bears didn't F-up drafting Williams over Daniels.  Daniels wouldn't be able to do what he's doing in Chicago.  He was fine the first 2 weeks, but nothing special.  But Kingsbury was setting him up for success with good play calling and getting him into a rhythm with a scheme that let him complete passes and get comfortable with protection and a decent running game in front of him.  Meanwhile Williams has been getting murdered with a passing scheme that makes little sense.

Yea. My post, especially the trubisky part, was a bit of a joke.

[GB Warrior]

Not disagreeing with that. He's 3-0, so he has been a success managing.

Why aren't the Bears asking Caleb to game manage the best supporting cast a rookie QB has ever had?

[Uncle Rico]

Why aren't the Bears asking Caleb to game manage the best supporting cast a rookie QB has ever had?

Bad coaching and a front office that should have pulled the plug on the inept staff last winter