2024-25 NFL Thread

[4everwarriors]

Not interesting at all. Simply common sense. Oh, but that's lacking in today's society. So many feel sticking their dicks and vaginas out is the way to intimidation and the solution to all scenarios.
Hill's a jackass who started the situation that police, rightfully so, deescalated before a traffic tragedy occurred. Shut up and run routes, aina?

[tower912]

Meh.  If he had 34 felony convictions you would vote for him.

[The Sultan]

Meh.  If he had 34 felony convictions you would vote for him.

Oh no. He's not white.

[Uncle Rico]

Meh.  If he had 34 felony convictions you would vote for him.

Interesting.  Very interesting, indeed.  Law and Order for some, but not for all.  Very, very interesting.

[Pakuni]

Cops are taught to take complete control of these encounters, even so called "routine traffic stops". And when they aren't in control, is when they tend to get shot at and bleed out on the roadside. So if a cop pulls you over, you do what he asks you to do. Now. Not 5 minutes from now when you've finished your phone call. Not after a debate. Now.

LOL, wut?
Cops are not taught to yank people out of cars and slam them to the ground during traffic stops. You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. They're taught the exact opposite, to de-escalate confrontations. These cops took a verbal dispute and unnecessarily turned it into a physical confrontation because they got mad.

[Uncle Rico]

Not interesting at all. Simply common sense. Oh, but that's lacking in today's society. So many feel sticking their dicks and vaginas out is the way to intimidation and the solution to all scenarios.
Hill's a jackass who started the situation that police, rightfully so, deescalated before a traffic tragedy occurred. Shut up and run routes, aina?

Huh.  Intimidation, you say?  Very, very interesting.  Quite interesting.

[The Sultan]

Cops are taught to take complete control of these encounters, even so called "routine traffic stops". And when they aren't in control, is when they tend to get shot at and bleed out on the roadside. So if a cop pulls you over, you do what he asks you to do. Now. Not 5 minutes from now when you've finished your phone call. Not after a debate. Now.

The cops were in complete control the entire time. After being asked a couple of times, he started to roll down his window, at which point the cop wanted him out of the car and opened his door. At that point, Hill had his feet out and was going to get out of the car, which then the cop decided to drag him out, throw him on the ground, and cuff him.

It was excessive and violent. The cops should be disciplined if not fired.

The fact that you see it otherwise means you think cops should be allowed to escalate the situation and use violence even if there is no threat of violence against them. A police state in other words.

[lawdog77]

LOL, wut?
Cops are not taught to yank people out of cars and slam them to the ground during traffic stops. You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. They're taught the exact opposite, to de-escalate confrontations. These cops took a verbal dispute and unnecessarily turned it into a physical confrontation because they got mad.

This.
I am not up to date on what Florida law us, but in my state, you are not required to roll your window down completely, even if an officer asks. You just have to have it down enough to hear the officer and vice versa.Tyree did finally comply,and the officer was still pissed and yanked him out. That is not good policing. The policeman should have just ran the license, plates, gave him a ticketand went about his day.

[The Sultan]

This.
I am not up to date on what Florida law us, but in my state, you are not required to roll your window down completely, even if an officer asks. You just have to have it down enough to hear the officer and vice versa.Tyree did finally comply,and the officer was still pissed and yanked him out. That is not good policing. The policeman should have just ran the license, plates, gave him a ticketand went about his day.

Yep. Well stated.

[The Sultan]

Man, Hackett is going to have to be digging deep into his bag of Goldmember references to keep his job this full year.

I literally think he has no idea how to attack a defense whatsoever. The Jets were in third and long all night long, while the Niners were in third and short if they even got to third down.

[MuggsyB]

This.
I am not up to date on what Florida law us, but in my state, you are not required to roll your window down completely, even if an officer asks. You just have to have it down enough to hear the officer and vice versa.Tyree did finally comply,and the officer was still pissed and yanked him out. That is not good policing. The policeman should have just ran the license, plates, gave him a ticketand went about his day.

Ya.....unless I'm missing something this was ridiculous policing and an abuse of power.  Give him a ticket and move on. 

[Uncle Rico]

I literally think he has no idea how to attack a defense whatsoever. The Jets were in third and long all night long, while the Niners were in third and short if they even got to third down.

Rodgers doesn't like his offenses to have motion or movement, preferring to be able to read the defense as is and change plays.  Jets will never have a creative offense as long as he's the QB.  It is what it is for the Jets offense.  He'll pick apart bad defenses because the arm is still there but against good defenses?  He'll struggle.

[tower912]

I had not thought of that.   The Rams used motion to identify the defense and to allow Stafford to get the ball out quickly to his first read and avoid pressure.   AR processes differently.

[PGsHeroes32]

Tyreek definitely was a bit of a smart ass/took his time "complying"

But anyone who thinks the cops were in the right are crazy.

Nothing he did posed any threat. And he did start to do as they asked and as stated that's when the cops still grabbed and dragged him.

And then whether or not the knee is a true issue, they gave him zero chance to sit him self down after making it clear he had a bum knee.

[cheebs09]

I had not thought of that.   The Rams used motion to identify the defense and to allow Stafford to get the ball out quickly to his first read and avoid pressure.   AR processes differently.

Same reason you saw a completely different offense in Love's first year. It does a good job of using motion to get the ball in guys hands to make plays.

[cheebs09]

LOL, wut?
Cops are not taught to yank people out of cars and slam them to the ground during traffic stops. You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about. They're taught the exact opposite, to de-escalate confrontations. These cops took a verbal dispute and unnecessarily turned it into a physical confrontation because they got mad.

I'll be honest, I used to be a "just follow orders and things won't escalate" person. However, I think there's plenty of examples of stories and videos that show it's not unwarranted for a black person to be hesitant during a "routine" traffic stop. I certainly can't put myself in the shoes of a person of a different race.

[WhiteTrash]

Tyreek definitely was a bit of a smart ass/took his time "complying"

But anyone who thinks the cops were in the right are crazy.

Nothing he did posed any threat. And he did start to do as they asked and as stated that's when the cops still grabbed and dragged him.

And then whether or not the knee is a true issue, they gave him zero chance to sit him self down after making it clear he had a bum knee.

Can't sit but can play NFL football? Ok.

Hill was being an ass and not very cooperative (personally, I try not to call my agent or anyone during a traffic stop). The cops need to be the adults in the situation and not let it get out of control.

I don't think the cops should lose their jobs by any measure. Some training yes, but anyone calling for their jobs must have some other issue they are hiding behind..

[The Sultan]

Can't sit but can play NFL football? Ok.

Hill was being an ass and not very cooperative (personally, I try not to call my agent or anyone during a traffic stop). The cops need to be the adults in the situation and not let it get out of control.

I don't think the cops should lose their jobs by any measure. Some training yes, but anyone calling for their jobs must have some other issue they are hiding behind..

Is not wanting cops to be unnecessarily violent an issue to hide behind?

[Uncle Rico]

Is not wanting cops to be unnecessarily violent an issue to hide behind?

Too bad he wasn't in Uvalde.  They usually sit back and do nothing

[wadesworld]

If anybody defending the police can give me the legal justification for getting Tyreke out of his car (whether forcefully or by Tyreke complying to those orders) I might consider Tyreke being the problem here.  But I can't even start to consider that when there's no justification for asking or forcing Tyreke to get out of the car.

[Jay Bee]

If anybody defending the police can give me the legal justification for getting Tyreke out of his car (whether forcefully or by Tyreke complying to those orders) I might consider Tyreke being the problem here.  But I can't even start to consider that when there's no justification for asking or forcing Tyreke to get out of the car.

Who Tyreke is tho

[wadesworld]

Who Tyreke is tho

When you have no rebuttal, attack a spelling error!

[MU82]

Not interesting at all. Simply common sense. Oh, but that's lacking in today's society. So many feel sticking their dicks and vaginas out is the way to intimidation and the solution to all scenarios.
Hill's a jackass who started the situation that police, rightfully so, deescalated before a traffic tragedy occurred. Shut up and run routes, aina?

Cops are taught to take complete control of these encounters, even so called "routine traffic stops". And when they aren't in control, is when they tend to get shot at and bleed out on the roadside. So if a cop pulls you over, you do what he asks you to do. Now. Not 5 minutes from now when you've finished your phone call. Not after a debate. Now.

Always, always, always do exactly what the police say!

Unless it's Jan. 6, 2021, and they're the Capitol Police. Those cops you can ignore ... and beat with tire irons ... and spray with mace ... and bash over the heads with flagsticks ... and pummel with brass knuckles.

[MuggsyB]

Can't sit but can play NFL football? Ok.

Hill was being an ass and not very cooperative (personally, I try not to call my agent or anyone during a traffic stop). The cops need to be the adults in the situation and not let it get out of control.

I don't think the cops should lose their jobs by any measure. Some training yes, but anyone calling for their jobs must have some other issue they are hiding behind..

I thought tbe main cop was awful WT.  Hill was being a dick but wasn't threatening .  Being a bit of an ass and impolite isn't against the law. 

[Herman Cain]

Lot of emotions in Cleveland and second guessing Deshaun Watson pickup and jettisoning Baker Mayfield.

Mayfield need the time to improve so it wasn't such a clear cut decision at the time
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/09/browns-sports-radio-host-meltdown-deshaun-watson-baker-mayfield-video