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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 15, 2024, 07:01:37 AM
Dude is money for first downs and the goal line

He's one of those guys like kickers...they ain't that valuable until they win the game for ya

He wasn't any of those things last year
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 15, 2024, 07:01:37 AM
Dude is money for first downs and the goal line

Did you stop watching Packer football a couple of years ago? Because he has been pretty ordinary in those situations the last couple of years. And I think the league agrees otherwise he would be elsewhere and not working on a one-year deal that can end at any time.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

JWags85

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 06:17:44 AM
Yeah Allen is likely a one year rental. But that's OK too.

Yea, I look at it as "skill weapon to aid the transition of a rookie QB" or "skill weapon to further stack the offense to truly see the upper limit of Fields"...and like you said, fine with either.  For a reasonable price.

jficke13

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 14, 2024, 09:09:34 PM
And he can be cut with no cap issues.

Yep. Actually a perfectly fine move. Now there's much less urgency to spend a draft pick on a RB to fill out the room. They keep a guy who knows the system, is good in blitz pickup, and is a good locker room guy for basically peanuts. If you think of him as a depth piece on a minimum salary deal, then it's good.

Uncle Rico

Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MUBurrow

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 08:51:47 AM
https://x.com/rapsheet/status/1768634543534231892?s=46&t=QSiaGcOIKZrrpw0ciZkI5Q

Vikes add another 1st round pick

Too lazy to look at the draft capital chart, but this strikes me as a precursor to another move.  They already have 11, which should be enough for Penix or Nix.  If they are targeting one of those guys, I doubt they take someone else and roll the dice on them lasting to 23.  In isolation, unless the chart says they win this deal, I'm not sure what 23 by itself gets you this far from draft day.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MUBurrow on March 15, 2024, 08:56:47 AM
Too lazy to look at the draft capital chart, but this strikes me as a precursor to another move.  They already have 11, which should be enough for Penix or Nix.  If they are targeting one of those guys, I doubt they take someone else and roll the dice on them lasting to 23.  In isolation, unless the chart says they win this deal, I'm not sure what 23 by itself gets you this far from draft day.

11 and 23 should be attractive to someone between 3-6.  If New England isn't sold on whatever QB is as 3, I can see them trade back to acquire more picks as they need a lot of talent infusion.  I think Arizona stays at 4 if Harrison is available.  Chargers might be inclined to do a trade, too, as they have a lot of holes to fill
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Hards Alumni

Hopefully, the Vikings take Penix.  Solely so I can make jokes non stop.

Penix comes up short once again on 3rd down!

Penix goes deep!

You know, that sort of high brow humor.  Deep stuff.

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 15, 2024, 09:00:09 AM
11 and 23 should be attractive to someone between 3-6.  If New England isn't sold on whatever QB is as 3, I can see them trade back to acquire more picks as they need a lot of talent infusion.  I think Arizona stays at 4 if Harrison is available.  Chargers might be inclined to do a trade, too, as they have a lot of holes to fill

Chargers definitely want to move out of that pick and 11+23 shoild get it done.

GB Warrior

That's a lot if you're ending up with the 4 most valued QB. Doesn't mean that guy isn't ultimately the best player of the bunch, but as with the 49ers when they drafted Lance, it puts a lot of variables in other teams' hands

CreightonWarrior

A whole lot of offensive linemen's necks just got safer with Aaron Donald's retirement.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 06:17:44 AM
Yeah Allen is likely a one year rental. But that's OK too.
4th round pick for a rental? If they were a SB quality team, then okay but if they make the playoffs it will be due to a last place schedule. Poles seems to get fine players but pays too much. If they restructure this into a 2-3 year, then maybe it looks good.

I found it interesting Allen had a list of teams he would only agree to be traded to. Shocked the Bears made the list.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 15, 2024, 12:17:19 PM
4th round pick for a rental? If they were a SB quality team, then okay but if they make the playoffs it will be due to a last place schedule. Poles seems to get fine players but pays too much. If they restructure this into a 2-3 year, then maybe it looks good.

I found it interesting Allen had a list of teams he would only agree to be traded to. Shocked the Bears made the list.

This is a Pro Bowl receiver that the Bears are getting with a fourth round pick. Stefon Diggs cost the Bills a first rounder among others. Davante Adams cost the Raiders a first and second. A fourth for Allen seems about right even if its just for one year.

And the Bears may not want to extend him. If he walks in free agency, they'll get a compensatory pick in the '25 draft.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

GB Warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 12:33:26 PM
This is a Pro Bowl receiver that the Bears are getting with a fourth round pick. Stefon Diggs cost the Bills a first rounder among others. Davante Adams cost the Raiders a first and second. A fourth for Allen seems about right even if its just for one year.

And the Bears may not want to extend him. If he walks in free agency, they'll get a compensatory pick in the '25 draft.

Agree. And nothing is more important than seeing if your rookie Qb is worth a damn. They are where they are with Fields because they gave him a Mulligan for Nagy, then a Mulligan for Getsy and ???

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 15, 2024, 12:33:26 PM
This is a Pro Bowl receiver that the Bears are getting with a fourth round pick. Stefon Diggs cost the Bills a first rounder among others. Davante Adams cost the Raiders a first and second. A fourth for Allen seems about right even if its just for one year.

And the Bears may not want to extend him. If he walks in free agency, they'll get a compensatory pick in the '25 draft.
That's fair. Good points.

GB Warrior

Pickett to the Eagles. There's a non-zero chance that Fields is the Bears starting running back.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 15, 2024, 01:56:53 PM
Pickett to the Eagles. There's a non-zero chance that Fields is the Bears starting running back.

I guess D'andre Swift is playing QB in this fantasy of yours?

GB Warrior

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 15, 2024, 02:03:30 PM
I guess D'andre Swift is playing QB in this fantasy of yours?

Can't hurt. But my point is that there are about 2 backup spots open right now. Near zero leverage to unload him and certainly not for anything meaningful

JWags85

Quote from: Hards Alumni on March 15, 2024, 02:03:30 PM
I guess D'andre Swift is playing QB in this fantasy of yours?

Its just the played joke that him and Wades have been beating into the ground for months that Fields is a RB, not a QB.  It was smirk worthy once or twice, now its as tired as using Buffoon of the US in other threads.

Pakuni

Kenny Pickett to the Eagles for pick 98 and  two future 7ths.
Not much return for a guy you took 20th overall less than two years ago.
And there goes another potential landing spot for Fields.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Pakuni on March 15, 2024, 02:28:12 PM
Kenny Pickett to the Eagles for pick 98 and  two future 7ths.
Not much return for a guy you took 20th overall less than two years ago.
And there goes another potential landing spot for Fields.

But it opens up another.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.


Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on March 15, 2024, 02:14:29 PM
Its just the played joke that him and Wades have been beating into the ground for months that Fields is a RB, not a QB.  It was smirk worthy once or twice, now its as tired as using Buffoon of the US in other threads.

Bingo.

Fields would be just as crappy at RB as he is at QB.

Jockey

Quote from: GB Warrior on March 15, 2024, 01:56:53 PM
Pickett to the Eagles. There's a non-zero chance that Fields is the Bears starting running back.

The Bears will eventually fold and accept a 5th or 6th.rounder.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on March 15, 2024, 02:56:14 PM
The Bears will eventually fold and accept a 5th or 6th.rounder.
Or maybe some team will fold and give the Bears a 5th or 6th rounder.