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Author Topic: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread  (Read 103869 times)

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2525 on: January 15, 2024, 05:31:17 PM »
Maybe he meant someone would be willing to take him off their hands for a #8 overall if the Bears threw in the #1 pick overall as compensation for taking him.

That's about as realistic.

Except that he said if Bears traded away fields for #8, they would then have 1, 8, 9

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2526 on: January 15, 2024, 06:38:55 PM »
No one's trading a first for Fields. Spending a first on a running back just isn't a smart investment

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2527 on: January 15, 2024, 08:49:27 PM »
No one's trading a first for Fields. Spending a first on a running back just isn't a smart investment

Ironically that’s exactly what Atlanta did last year.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2528 on: January 15, 2024, 08:50:02 PM »
Bears interviewing Greg Roman as OC candidate is a potential tell. Get your pitchforks ready, Bears fans!

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2529 on: January 15, 2024, 08:56:36 PM »
@AtlantaFalcons
We have interviewed Bill Belichick for our head coach opening

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2530 on: January 16, 2024, 07:59:39 AM »
The Athletic has J.J. McCarthy going #19 to the Rams.

Williams #1 to Chicago, Maye #2 to Washington and Daniels #8 to Atlanta.

FWIW (not much).

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2531 on: January 16, 2024, 08:25:00 AM »
The Athletic has J.J. McCarthy going #19 to the Rams.

Williams #1 to Chicago, Maye #2 to Washington and Daniels #8 to Atlanta.

FWIW (not much).
Feels a bit "chalky". No big diversions from all other predictions other than McCarthy somewhat higher than most.

I do think Chicago will go with Williams unless they get offered "stupid" compensation. (3 #1s & 3 #2's type 'never going to happen' stupid)

Agree these are not worth more than bracketology in December. Combine, workouts, FA and trades will cause major changes.


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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2532 on: January 16, 2024, 08:31:38 AM »
The Athletic has J.J. McCarthy going #19 to the Rams.

Williams #1 to Chicago, Maye #2 to Washington and Daniels #8 to Atlanta.

FWIW (not much).


So many QB needy teams. I think a team will see JJ as the next Josh Allen and he goes top 10. QBs always get overdrafted.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2533 on: January 16, 2024, 09:02:09 AM »

So many QB needy teams. I think a team will see JJ as the next Josh Allen and he goes top 10. QBs always get overdrafted.

Tommy DeVito started games in the NFL this year.  Mason Rudolph started a playoff game.  The NFL is desperate for QBs.

Thank god for Jordan Love
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2534 on: January 16, 2024, 09:08:18 AM »

So many QB needy teams. I think a team will see JJ as the next Josh Allen and he goes top 10. QBs always get overdrafted.

Josh Allen?  Cause he has a big arm?  Otherwise I don't see the comp at all.  Allen is bigger, more of a running threat, and was really raw coming out of a mid major college.  McCarthy isn't as mobile, more polished, and not at all under the radar.

But otherwise I totally agree with your final point.  Especially in years where there is tons of good QBs prospects at the top, FOMO comes in hard.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2535 on: January 16, 2024, 09:14:04 AM »
Josh Allen?  Cause he has a big arm?  Otherwise I don't see the comp at all.  Allen is bigger, more of a running threat, and was really raw coming out of a mid major college.  McCarthy isn't as mobile, more polished, and not at all under the radar.

But otherwise I totally agree with your final point.  Especially in years where there is tons of good QBs prospects at the top, FOMO comes in hard.

McCarthy is quite mobile.  Michigan didn’t use him much in the running game.  When they did, he moved the chains
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2536 on: January 16, 2024, 09:47:49 AM »
@AtlantaFalcons
We have interviewed Bill Belichick for our head coach opening

Sources say, here's a transcript from the interview.

Q: Why don't you tell us about yourself?

A: I coach.

Q; What interests you about this position?

A: Football.

Q: Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

A: Breathing.
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2537 on: January 16, 2024, 09:59:21 AM »
Sources say, here's a transcript from the interview.

Q: Why don't you tell us about yourself?

A: I coach.

Q; What interests you about this position?

A: Football.

Q: Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

A: Breathing.

O/U on the number of questions before Bill said "we done here?"....6?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2538 on: January 16, 2024, 10:04:47 AM »
Josh Allen?  Cause he has a big arm?  Otherwise I don't see the comp at all.  Allen is bigger, more of a running threat, and was really raw coming out of a mid major college.  McCarthy isn't as mobile, more polished, and not at all under the radar.

But otherwise I totally agree with your final point.  Especially in years where there is tons of good QBs prospects at the top, FOMO comes in hard.

I think McCarthy as a smaller Allen isn't the worst comp Ive ever seen, but maybe not the best. He doesn't have Allen's arm or size, but he's as mobile and more accurate. McCarthy reminds me more of .poor man's Andrew Luck. Maybe very poor man's. Smaller and not the elite arm talent, but tough, accurate and smart, and similar playing styles.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2539 on: January 16, 2024, 10:06:10 AM »
O/U on the number of questions before Bill said "we done here?"....6?

How did the interview go?
"I'm on to Dallas."
But what were your impressions of the Falcons?
"I'm on to Dallas."

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2540 on: January 16, 2024, 10:10:19 AM »
This is really the issue with teams looking at Belichick right? They want Bill the Coach, but not really Bill the GM. And Bill likely wants both right?

I thought for sure that he would be heading to the Cowboys, but Shannon Sharpe's diatribe about why that would be a disaster got me thinking - would he put up with Jones doing Jones things? (Trading for Trey Lance without talking to the coach, going on the radio weekly, etc.) Or do desperate parties come together for a deal thinking it would work, only to have it fall apart spectacularly?
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2541 on: January 16, 2024, 11:08:31 AM »
How did the interview go?
"I'm on to Dallas."
But what were your impressions of the Falcons?
"I'm on to Dallas."

I'm probably wrong, but I just don't see the Belichick to Cowboys thing.

Is Bill going to want to go to a place where the owner has final say on everything? There is a reason why the Cowboys are losers. Jerry's ego must always be satisfied and he will always sacrifice the team at the altar of ego and money.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2542 on: January 16, 2024, 11:17:49 AM »
I'm probably wrong, but I just don't see the Belichick to Cowboys thing.

Is Bill going to want to go to a place where the owner has final say on everything? There is a reason why the Cowboys are losers. Jerry's ego must always be satisfied and he will always sacrifice the team at the altar of ego and money.

You may be right. Definitely a fair point.
On the other hand, does soon-to-be 72-year-old Belichick want to go to a rebuild, or a team that's years from being a legitimate contender, i.e. the Falcons, Washington or Carolina?
The downside of the Cowboys is dealing with Jerry. But the upside is he takes over a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl immediately.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2543 on: January 16, 2024, 11:20:07 AM »
Belichick could do wonders with that defense but i have a feeling he's not going to be into the brand of football that Diggs and Bland play. Ultimate gamblers.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2544 on: January 16, 2024, 01:46:30 PM »
How did the interview go?
"I'm on to Dallas."
But what were your impressions of the Falcons?
"I'm on to Dallas."

So far there has been Belichick to the Cowboys, Packers (before they won), Philly, Chargers, and Atlanta.

With the flame outs of the Cowboys and Philly, I wouldn't be shocked to see him end up at either of those places. Right now, Bill just wants 2 seasons where he can win a total of at least 15 games. If Philly and/or the Cowboys offer, he goes there. I don't think he cares as much about controlling everything as he does getting the all time Wins record.

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2545 on: January 16, 2024, 04:25:21 PM »
You may be right. Definitely a fair point.
On the other hand, does soon-to-be 72-year-old Belichick want to go to a rebuild, or a team that's years from being a legitimate contender, i.e. the Falcons, Washington or Carolina?
The downside of the Cowboys is dealing with Jerry. But the upside is he takes over a roster that can compete for a Super Bowl immediately.

Shades of Parcells tenure in Dallas?  Legendary SB winning coach and ego having one last hurrah with Jerry before retirement?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2547 on: January 17, 2024, 07:56:23 AM »
Sounds like Jim Irsay’s respiratory illness is code for overdose
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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2548 on: January 17, 2024, 10:40:05 AM »
McCarthy is quite mobile.  Michigan didn’t use him much in the running game.  When they did, he moved the chains

He’s also only 20 years old. His best situation would be to sit for a couple of years and learn from a good coach and QB. The Rams maybe?

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Re: 2024 NFL Offseason and Draft Thread
« Reply #2549 on: January 17, 2024, 10:46:33 AM »
He’s also only 20 years old. His best situation would be to sit for a couple of years and learn from a good coach and QB. The Rams maybe?

I think that’s a good call.  A team like that would benefit him. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.