2024-25 NFL Thread

[Pakuni]

I don't think its a great idea, but it is certainly one Davis will be perfectly willing to throw a lot of money at.

Can I ask why?

[WhiteTrash]

That's not s terrible idea. There's a history there.

What's the history between the Raider and Harbaugh?

[Pakuni]

What's the history between the Raider and Harbaugh?

Harbaugh started his coaching career as the Raiders QB coach in the 2002 and 2003 seasons, before getting the HC job at the U of San Diego. He's remained close to the Davis family since.

[The Sultan]

Can I ask why?

I don't think it ended well in San Francisco, which was admittedly a disaster, and not sure spending a decade at the college level is going to help him.

It might be fine, and someone with his personality is probably needed to deal with Davis.

[Dish]

The fortune cookie story is fake, right? There's no way McDaniels was fired by a fortune cookie, right?

[The Sultan]

The fortune cookie story is fake, right? There's no way McDaniels was fired by a fortune cookie, right?

I mean I think it's fake. But it could totally be real.

[Pakuni]

The fortune cookie story is fake, right? There's no way McDaniels was fired by a fortune cookie, right?

Pretty sure it's a PF Changs joke.

[cheebs09]

The fortune cookie story is fake, right? There's no way McDaniels was fired by a fortune cookie, right?

I assumed it was something written by PFT Commenter.

[jesmu84]

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/chicago-bears-did-not-lay-groundwork-for-extension-before-montez-sweat-trade/

Oh. Smart.

[Jockey]

Will the Bears have more wins or more fired coaches by the end of the season?

Scored is tied right now.

[The Sultan]

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/chicago-bears-did-not-lay-groundwork-for-extension-before-montez-sweat-trade/

Oh. Smart.

Wow.

[WhiteTrash]

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/11/01/chicago-bears-did-not-lay-groundwork-for-extension-before-montez-sweat-trade/

Oh. Smart.

Said it before, I'll say it again; Poles does not give a damn about the Bears future. He will burn it to the ground on his way out the door. 

[lawdog77]

Wow.

Not to defend the Bears, but there's no real evidence they haven't "laid the groundwork" whatever that means. There's always the franchise tag as well.

[WhiteTrash]

Not to defend the Bears, but there's no real evidence they haven't "laid the groundwork" whatever that means. There's always the franchise tag as well.

Good point, franchise tags are the best way to endear yourself to a player. Plus he is one of the top 5 DE in the NFL, right?

[Pakuni]

Not to defend the Bears, but there's no real evidence they haven't "laid the groundwork" whatever that means. There's always the franchise tag as well.

Nest year's franchise tag for a DE will cost you $20.4 million.

[lawdog77]

Good point, franchise tags are the best way to endear yourself to a player. Plus he is one of the top 5 DE in the NFL, right?

What does this even mean?
ESPN's Jeremy Fowler indicated that Chicago didn't exactly lay the groundwork for an extension before acquiring Sweat.

What did you expect the bears to do before trading for him?

[lawdog77]

Nest year's franchise tag for a DE will cost you $20.4 million.

Here's what Sweat may get in a contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/montez-sweat-29061/market-value/

[Pakuni]

Here's what Sweat may get in a contract

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/montez-sweat-29061/market-value/

That projection is greatly skewed by the odd inclusion of Nick Bosa as a comparable player.
Sacks aren't the only important consideration, even for an edge rusher, but Bosa averages .78 per game played to Sweat's .53. Bosa also has a huge edge in tackles for loss and QB hits, and smaller edge in forced fumbles.
I like Sweat, but really can't find any measure in which he would be a comparable player to Nick Bosa.

[jesmu84]

Not to defend the Bears, but there's no real evidence they haven't "laid the groundwork" whatever that means. There's always the franchise tag as well.

Does this count as evidence? https://twitter.com/CEmma670/status/1719788204528672772?t=qVnvMspc7Iq1I-0dj5syyQ&s=19

But now there's this:
https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1719806987897078141?s=20

[lawdog77]

Does this count as evidence? https://twitter.com/CEmma670/status/1719788204528672772?t=qVnvMspc7Iq1I-0dj5syyQ&s=19

But now there's this:
https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1719806987897078141?s=20

Kind of hard to talk with him before he is traded. Tampering?

[Pakuni]

Kind of hard to talk with him before he is traded. Tampering?

I believe it's no longer tampering if the player's current team grants permission. It's how Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill basically had new deals in place the moment they were traded to the Raiders and Dolphins, respectively.
Which Washington probably would have granted to the Bears if they were looking to unload him.

[lawdog77]

I believe it's no longer tampering if the player's current team grants permission. It's how Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill basically had new deals in place the moment they were traded to the Raiders and Dolphins, respectively.
Which Washington probably would have granted to the Bears if they were looking to unload him.

I tried to find an article to see if Sweat had permission to talk to other teams but couldnt find one.

[RJax55]

I believe it's no longer tampering if the player's current team grants permission. It's how Davante Adams and Tyreek Hill basically had new deals in place the moment they were traded to the Raiders and Dolphins, respectively.
Which Washington probably would have granted to the Bears if they were looking to unload him.

Correct. The Bears did it in the Khalil Mack trade as well.

[lawdog77]

Does this count as evidence? https://twitter.com/CEmma670/status/1719788204528672772?t=qVnvMspc7Iq1I-0dj5syyQ&s=19

But now there's this:
https://x.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1719806987897078141?s=20

Not really.He didnt say his agents weren't working on it,  just that hes not.Poles comments didnt say he just started, just that they are working on it.

[The Sultan]

Not really.He didnt say his agents weren't working on it,  just that hes not.Poles comments didnt say he just started, just that they are working on it.

Hey didn't realize Ryan Poles was a Scooper.

It's pretty common to work out this stuff ahead of time when you are trading high value assets.