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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 05, 2023, 05:17:27 PM
RIP Dick Butkus, one of the best linebackers to ever play the game. That SI cover of Butkus from 1970 remains an iconic image.

Bears by a million tonight.

WhiteTrash

Truly sad day. One of the greatest ever.

Also one hell of an actor.  ;)

Uncle Rico

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 05, 2023, 05:17:27 PM
RIP Dick Butkus, one of the best linebackers to ever play the game. That SI cover of Butkus from 1970 remains an iconic image.

Not a Bears fan but Butkus highlights always amazed me.  And by all accounts, an even better person
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: DegenerateDish on October 05, 2023, 05:17:27 PM
RIP Dick Butkus, one of the best linebackers to ever play the game. That SI cover of Butkus from 1970 remains an iconic image.

Best middle linebacker ever. RIP

DegenerateDish

I'm sure this is in the moment, and there's probably plenty of other examples, but I'm not sure there's ever been a player who personified where he was from and where he played, more than Butkus.

Played at CVS, went to Illinois, played for the Bears. He was figuratively "the" Monster of the Midway. Saw him at the opener just last month, he looked pretty good.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
Best middle linebacker ever. RIP

Ray Lewis and it's not really close.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 06:00:51 PM
Best middle linebacker ever. RIP

How badass was the man for those of us that never saw him other than clips??  Ty.  May he rest in peace.

MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 05, 2023, 05:27:35 PM
Truly sad day. One of the greatest ever.

Also one hell of an actor.  ;)

They better fking show up tonight WT. 

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 05, 2023, 06:15:59 PM
Ray Lewis and it's not really close.

Very different league when Butkus and Lewis played. Each were the best of their generation.

DegenerateDish

Quote from: Pakuni on October 05, 2023, 06:31:40 PM
Very different league when Butkus and Lewis played. Each were the best of their generation.

Right, it's definitely close. Lewis also moved to the outside mid career.

Butkus was first team all pro more than half his career, Lewis played much longer obviously and made more first team all pros. Splitting hairs here.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 05, 2023, 06:15:59 PM
Ray Lewis and it's not really close.

Butkus was the NFL defensive player of the year in 1969 when the Bears won 1 freakin'  game. Never before, never again.

He was 1st team All Pro 6 times in 9 years and two of those years were after a botched knee operation that should have ended his career.

Greatest ever.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:00:52 PM
Butkus was the NFL defensive player of the year in 1969 when the Bears won 1 freakin'  game. Never before, never again.

He was 1st team All Pro 6 times in 9 years and two of those years were after a botched knee operation that should have ended his career.

Greatest ever.


Lewis was defensive player of the year twice, was first team all Pro seven times in a much larger league, and was so good that his team never only won one game.

Greatest ever. Not even close.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

Is Iowa playing the Bears?

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 05, 2023, 07:08:55 PM

Lewis was defensive player of the year twice, was first team all Pro seven times in a much larger league, and was so good that his team never only won one game.

Greatest ever. Not even close.

Butkus and Lewis each won it twice. Lewis needed 16 years to make first team All Pro 7 times. Butkus did it 6 times in 9 years, the last 2 playing on knees that should have had him retired. Lewis was surrounded by lots of other good players. Butkus was on an island.

All in all, the numbers favor (slightly) Butkus. Anyone who says "Lewis and it's not even close" is either trolling or an idiot.

MuggsyB

Da 🐻 🐻 🐻‍❄ 🐻 🐻‍❄.

jesmu84

Good start.

Excellent protection. Great reads and great throws

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:20:13 PM
Butkus and Lewis each won it twice. Lewis needed 16 years to make first team All Pro 7 times. Butkus did it 6 times in 9 years, the last 2 playing on knees that should have had him retired. Lewis was surrounded by lots of other good players. Butkus was on an island.

All in all, the numbers favor (slightly) Butkus. Anyone who says "Lewis and it's not even close" is either trolling or an idiot.
Lewis was a killer LB.

cheebs09

Wow. He was just at Soldier Field for the Bears/Packers game and seemed really excited about it on Twitter.

RIP

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:20:13 PM
Butkus and Lewis each won it twice. Lewis needed 16 years to make first team All Pro 7 times. Butkus did it 6 times in 9 years, the last 2 playing on knees that should have had him retired. Lewis was surrounded by lots of other good players. Butkus was on an island.

All in all, the numbers favor (slightly) Butkus. Anyone who says "Lewis and it's not even close" is either trolling or an idiot.

😂😂😂😂. The old man turns to insults. 

Anyway Lewis was better. Not even close.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Lennys Tap


Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 05, 2023, 07:33:30 PM
😂😂😂😂. The old man turns to insults. 

Anyway Lewis was better. Not even close.

Tried to throw you a lifeline, not surprised you stubbornly passed it up. You be you.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 05, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
Tried to throw you a lifeline, not surprised you stubbornly passed it up. You be you.

You think I need a lifeline...from you????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 05, 2023, 07:33:30 PM
😂😂😂😂. The old man turns to insults. 

Anyway Lewis was better. Not even close.
Lewis was an awesome player. Lewis is a horrible person, not even debatable.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on October 05, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Lewis was an awesome player. Lewis is a horrible person, not even debatable.

Was I debating that?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

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Who are these guys?