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The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 06, 2023, 05:14:49 AM
And that Trump was "little known" before he was elected.

Don't be dishonest now. I was focusing on the "no campaign experience" part of the comment, which I clarified after you mentioned it the first time.

And Magic was way better than Bird. Just like Lewis was way better than Butkus.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on October 06, 2023, 06:33:56 AM
Don't be dishonest now. I was focusing on the "no campaign experience" part of the comment, which I clarified after you mentioned it the first time.

And Magic was way better than Bird. Just like Lewis was way better than Butkus.
You ever see Butkus play?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 06, 2023, 07:10:55 AM
You ever see Butkus play?

These arguments are unwinnable.  Butkus was the best of his era and Lewis the best of his.

If Butkus had access to training and medicine Lewis did, how good could he have been above what he was?

If Lewis played in an era where violence on the field wasn't regulated how much better could Lewis have been?  That's not meant to be a joke about Lewis but an honest question. 
Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

#804
So, did last night change the season narrative for the Bears or was it a one-off?


Now, when the Panthers get a win, the 2008 Lions can break out the champagne.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: lawdog77 on October 06, 2023, 07:10:55 AM
You ever see Butkus play?
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
So, did last night change the season narrative for the Bears or was it a one-off?


The good is that the Fields to Moore connection looked on fire. But is that sustainable with that line and with better teams that will shut down Moore?  I guess we will see.

I will also say that Rivera teams always seem to lay eggs like this a couple times a year.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jesmu84

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
So, did last night change the season narrative for the Bears or was it a one-off?


Now, when the Panthers get a win, the 2008 Lions can break out the champagne.

1. Fields (and the offense) have played 2 great halves of the last 4. Progress. Caveat - it was the redskins and broncos.

2. They have serious injury concerns at multiple positions on top of already shaky depth.

3. The defense still looks real bad

Dr. Blackheart


WhiteTrash

Bears win!

Talk on ESPN radio this morning is 'trade Fields now, highest trade value to be had'.

Sums up the Bears in 2023.

Pakuni

Claypool and a 2025 7th to Miami for a 2025 6th.

JWags85

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
So, did last night change the season narrative for the Bears or was it a one-off?

No. I think it can slightly tweak the narratives on Fields now that he has had 2 good games back to back. Yes it was 2 pretty bad teams but confidence was probably the biggest issue from 2022 to 2023 thus far.

Moore is also very encouraging. 19 catches for 380 yards and 4 TDs in the last 2 is fantastic, regardless of competition.  Now averaging over 100 YPG for the year and has more than 100 in 3 out of 5 games.  That's exactly what you hoped for out of that trade.

But the team is still bad.  No depth and significant injuries as mentioned.  The defense let a mediocre team back into the game with a huge lead again.  And again the team came out flat in the 3rd after a great first half.  And that is all on coaching

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jesmu84 on October 06, 2023, 08:03:09 AM
1. Fields (and the offense) have played 2 great halves of the last 4. Progress. Caveat - it was the redskins and broncos.

2. They have serious injury concerns at multiple positions on top of already shaky depth.

3. The defense still looks real bad

Replace the word Fields with the word Love and you've also described the Packers!  I guess the opponents would have to change as well though.

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2023, 10:26:49 AM
Claypool and a 2025 7th to Miami for a 2025 6th.

Brutal. But moderate credit to Poles for cutting his losses and getting something back without having to cut him.

Another lesson that if something seems to be good from the Steelers, it probably is

Spotcheck Billy

Who will have to die next in order to inspire the Bears to another victory?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on October 06, 2023, 11:25:42 AM
Who will have to die next in order to inspire the Bears to another victory?

Virginia
Guster is for Lovers

Pakuni

Ha.

Mike McDaniel on Dolphins' "exciting" Chase Claypool acquisition: "We definitely weren't looking for receiver help"

https://x.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1710343158293528706?s=20

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on October 06, 2023, 12:21:54 PM
Ha.

Mike McDaniel on Dolphins' "exciting" Chase Claypool acquisition: "We definitely weren't looking for receiver help"

https://x.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1710343158293528706?s=20
I hope the Dolphin's system does not require WRs to block.

RJax55

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on October 06, 2023, 11:25:42 AM
Who will have to die next in order to inspire the Bears to another victory?

Sadly, it will be Steve McMichael. ALS is beyond awful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2023, 07:33:22 AM
These arguments are unwinnable.  Butkus was the best of his era and Lewis the best of his.


Nobody is arguing. Everyone acknowledges it's a close call, a matter of opinion. Except for one person looking for attention beating his childish dumb drum.

Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

Lennys Tap

The Athletic has a Top 100, the greatest 100 NFL players of all time.

Dick Butkus is #10, the #1 MLB.

Ray Lewis checks in at #17.


Not all scoop users are created equal apparently

Feels like some people around here aren't acknowledging how impressive it is that a running back has had a 130+ passer rating the past two games.
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on October 06, 2023, 07:43:30 AM
Now, when the Panthers get a win, the 2008 Lions can break out the champagne.

That win, if it happens, won't be this week. Lions by a bazillion.

It was fun watching the WR the Panthers sent packing have a career day, especially on a day that there were newspaper articles in Charlotte talking about the Panthers' desperate need for a #1 WR.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on October 06, 2023, 05:35:36 PM
It was fun watching the WR the Panthers sent packing have a career day, especially on a day that there were newspaper articles in Charlotte talking about the Panthers' desperate need for a #1 WR.

I saw tweets about the WR need.  It's bizarre.  I thought the trade was smart in terms of what they are trying to do rebuild wise.  But to flip into a need for a WR 5 games into the season is just strange.  Classic impatient rebuild feelings

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