2024-25 NFL Thread

[MUBurrow]

Add me to the list that thinks Saleh is good. His Jets tenure has been totally tied to Zach Wilson, and he's towed the company line on that as best he can. Not only does Wilson suck, but the more important part is that he is a punk and has made his teammates hate him. There isn't much Saleh can do about that.

[Uncle Rico]

The jets should bring Saleh and Rodgers back but draft a QB in the first round

[jesmu84]

https://x.com/KyleSloter/status/1707067153025814600?s=20

Another observer pointing out how bad the entire offense is.

Also, the bears will continue to be a horrible franchise until ownership changes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/09/26/bears-losing-streak/

[Jockey]

If I were the Jets, there is no way I would fire Saleh. He had them going great last year, and this year his top QB goes down.

I think 'going great' should include making the Playoffs.

If you watched Hard Knocks, Saleh seemed more like ARod's personal cheerleader than Head Coach.

[Uncle Rico]

I think 'going great' should include making the Playoffs.

If you watched Hard Knocks, Saleh seemed more like ARod's personal cheerleader than Head Coach.

I'm sure he knows from LaFleur how fragile Rodgers ego is

[JWags85]

I think 'going great' should include making the Playoffs.

If you watched Hard Knocks, Saleh seemed more like ARod's personal cheerleader than Head Coach.

They were 7-4 before Wilson and the offense completely imploded.  The organization had won 6 games total the previous 2 seasons.

And I watched the same Hard Knocks you did.  I saw a coach who knew a big part of pushing that team to the next level was embracing the mystique and excitement of a HOF QB to make everyone forget the offensive collapse of last season and managing to score 15 total points the last 3 weeks of the year, even with the OROY.  Until this weekend and that terrible presser (though it was largely carrying water for a clueless organization), I don't know how you could come away with thinking Saleh isn't impressive. Not to mention it's not like he's got a rep as a QB whisperer or offensive mind

[jficke13]

I think 'going great' should include making the Playoffs.

If you watched Hard Knocks, Saleh seemed more like ARod's personal cheerleader than Head Coach.

I'm also not sure how much that show should be taken as sufficient to infer things that it does not show. As in, obviously they have to cut vast swaths of what Salah's DTD activities were or it wouldn't be a watchable product. Maybe they made the editorial decision to focus on his Rodgers-Cheerleading because they thought that was the most compelling angle for the production.

[Jockey]

I'm also not sure how much that show should be taken as sufficient to infer things that it does not show. As in, obviously they have to cut vast swaths of what Salah's DTD activities were or it wouldn't be a watchable product. Maybe they made the editorial decision to focus on his Rodgers-Cheerleading because they thought that was the most compelling angle for the production.

I don't dispute what you're saying. And no head coach wins without a decent QB. Not even Belichick. Sean Peyton was a very good coach when he had Drew Brees. How good will he be with Russell Wilson?

I just question whether Saleh is a good head coach or not. There is not enough evidence to proclaim either way. There is evidence that he is/was a good DC.

Great QBs make the coach. Even if the Jets go 4-13, we still won't know definitively how good Saleh is.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

https://x.com/KyleSloter/status/1707067153025814600?s=20

Another observer pointing out how bad the entire offense is.

Also, the bears will continue to be a horrible franchise until ownership changes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/09/26/bears-losing-streak/

I am for Tank 2.0 and hope the panthers finish 2nd worst.

[WhiteTrash]

https://x.com/KyleSloter/status/1707067153025814600?s=20

Another observer pointing out how bad the entire offense is.

Also, the bears will continue to be a horrible franchise until ownership changes:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/09/26/bears-losing-streak/

I can't agree 100% with Sloter. I've seen plenty of tape of Fields missing wide open receivers this year. I'll agree 50% of his position.

This level of incompetence is a total team effort.

[Pakuni]

Who do they want him to play? Tim Boyle? It's not like there are a bunch of amazing options he's ignoring to the detriment of the locker room

Apparently the correct answer is Trevor Siemian.

[MU82]

Tonight's game is just #4 in a long season, but it feels like an important one, especially for the Lions.

The biggest game the Lions have played since they were playoff contenders with Stafford in the mid-teens?

[JWags85]

(Insert Tower doom and gloom statement despite plenty of reason for optimism)

[Uncle Rico]

Tonight's game is just #4 in a long season, but it feels like an important one, especially for the Lions.

The biggest game the Lions have played since they were playoff contenders with Stafford in the mid-teens?

I think so.  Division game on the road where the Lions just won in week, sigh, 18 last year.  Pack can go to 2-0 in division with a road win in hand. 

That said, the way the NFL is, week-to-week up and downs, it's hard to gauge what anything means but it feels important tonight

[swoopem]

Tonight's game is just #4 in a long season, but it feels like an important one, especially for the Lions.

The biggest game the Lions have played since they were playoff contenders with Stafford in the mid-teens?

As a Detroit (Royal Oak) resident, I'd say week 1 was bigger. There was SO much hype going into the year that it needed to be validated and they did that. Tonight is big but week 1 had a lot more buzz

[MU82]

As a Detroit (Royal Oak) resident, I'd say week 1 was bigger. There was SO much hype going into the year that it needed to be validated and they did that. Tonight is big but week 1 had a lot more buzz

That's fair, and you would know.

From an outsider's perspective, tonight's game feels pretty important though.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

It's a big game because it is in the division, but at the end of the night, one team will be 3-1 and the other will be 2-2 with a lot of season left.  Or maybe they'll both be 2-1-1?

[4everwarriors]

As a Detroit (Royal Oak) resident, I'd say week 1 was bigger. There was SO much hype going into the year that it needed to be validated and they did that. Tonight is big but week 1 had a lot more buzz

Livin' large on Main St., hey?

[swoopem]

Livin' large on Main St., hey?

13 and Woodward but I've stumbled down Main St a time or two

[4everwarriors]

Not far from Beaumont, aina?

[swoopem]

Pretty much. I'm on the other side of Woodward

[4everwarriors]

Not a bad spot for the Dream Cruise, hey?

[tower912]

I am in a similar place as Cubs fans a decade ago.   After 65 years of futility, I am going to have to be shown.

[WhiteTrash]

"Chicago Bears coach Matt Eberflus said Wednesday that he will continue to call defensive plays for the remainder of the season"

I'd like to personally thank Matt for making the decision to fire him at the end of the season, or sooner, even easier. (that is assuming the reports that the decision to fire him has already been made are false)

[WhiteTrash]

"Fields threw for 99 yards, a touchdown and an interception in a 41-10 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs last Sunday. His completion percentage and passer rating has declined each week since a season-opening loss to the Green Bay Packers, as have his number of pass attempts and the air yards per attempt."

" Bears offensive coordinator Luke Getsy is encouraged by the growth he's seeing from Justin Fields "