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Dish

I love snow games. I realize it totally neutralizes a game for both teams, but visually it's beautiful (as long as I'm not sitting in it).

RJax55

Quote from: Pakuni on January 19, 2025, 04:28:34 PMGeorge really has nothing to lose. Gets his name out there to maybe catch the eye of an NFL team looking for an assistant or an AD of a bigger school. And lets him become acquainted with the interview process for a time if/when he's more legitimate candidate.

Correct.

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 04:23:24 PMAh. Thank you. So they hauled George in to interview in person? I guess if his agent is shopping him around for a NFL gig of some sorts.

Yes. The other interviews were all done virtually, so they didnt count for the Rooney Rule.


Dish

Would it be a personal foul if a defender on defense threw snowballs at a holder on a FG attempt?

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 19, 2025, 04:40:03 PMWould it be a personal foul if a defender on defense threw snowballs at a holder on a FG attempt?

Probably unsportsmanlike conduct. No Fun League.


Uncle Rico

They really didn't have a choice but to punt, however, the result was pretty predictable
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: RJax55 on January 19, 2025, 04:32:34 PMYes. The other interviews were all done virtually, so they didnt count for the Rooney Rule.


If the Bears interviewed George to satisfy the Rooney Rule, then they are giving the rule and NFL the big middle finger. To pass over qualified minority candidates who want/need the exposure and experience for a FCS coach is contrary to spirit of the Rooney Rule.

I don't think Warren and Poles are doing this.



RJax55

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 05:07:49 PMIf the Bears interviewed George to satisfy the Rooney Rule, then they are giving the rule and NFL the big middle finger. To pass over qualified minority candidates who want/need the exposure and experience for a FCS coach is contrary to spirit of the Rooney Rule.

I don't think Warren and Poles are doing this.


Well, they did.

Uncle Rico

Bears could have had Jalen Carter.  What a gift to the Eagles
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jesmu84

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2025, 05:12:15 PMBears could have had Jalen Carter.  What a gift to the Eagles

They coulda had mahomes too

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 05:07:49 PMIf the Bears interviewed George to satisfy the Rooney Rule, then they are giving the rule and NFL the big middle finger. To pass over qualified minority candidates who want/need the exposure and experience for a FCS coach is contrary to spirit of the Rooney Rule.

I don't think Warren and Poles are doing this.


They interviewed multiple minority candidates virtually. They interviewed someone in person who isn't on a team because those candidates cannot be interviewed until tomorrow at the earliest.

Not everything the Bears do needs to be complained about you know. The Rooney Rule has been "used" this way for years.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 05:14:53 PMThey interviewed multiple minority candidates virtually. They interviewed someone in person who isn't on a team because those candidates cannot be interviewed until tomorrow at the earliest.

Not everything the Bears do needs to be complained about you know. The Rooney Rule has been "used" this way for years.


Hallelujah
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Uncle Rico

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MU82

Quote from: The Sultan on January 18, 2025, 12:46:28 PMI think it's going to be a snow game in Philly. I would think that benefits the Eagles.

Good call - by both of us.

Fun game to watch.
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"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Whoever comes out of the AFC should  pretty solid favorite in the Super Bowl
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MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 19, 2025, 05:12:15 PMBears could have had Jalen Carter.  What a gift to the Eagles

I believe it was Jockey who said many times that Carter was the best player in the draft that year, and teams that passed on him for dopey off-field stuff would regret it. Darn good call.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 05:14:53 PMThey interviewed multiple minority candidates virtually. They interviewed someone in person who isn't on a team because those candidates cannot be interviewed until tomorrow at the earliest.

Not everything the Bears do needs to be complained about you know. The Rooney Rule has been "used" this way for years.

Fair enough.

So we shall kick off the list of things the Bears should be commended for:

(You first)

MurphysTillClose

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 12, 2025, 12:09:40 PMMy belief is he has interest. Former Bears draft pick, if he's going to make the move to the NFL, his leverage will never be higher.

He already signed an extension, and I don't think Pelissero drops his name if he isn't interested.

This isn't an endorsement of Freeman on my end, I have no idea if he'd be a good NFL head coach. Too many teams leaves though to ignore.

He's 39 years old and has 6 children, oldest still in HS. He is now one of the highest paid coaches in CFB after the signed extension a few weeks ago. He's not taking a +55% pay cut for that organization, one who waived him a mere 5-6 months after getting drafted. Happy wife, happy life as has been mentioned here many times with coaching searches. This one ain't it.

His connection to Warren is through ND, not the Bears, and was made before KW even became the GM. Warren is ND Law School grad.

The only job he'd leave ND for in the short-term would probably be tOSU. If that job was open, he'd be #1 on the list. He doesn't "need" an NFL job to get that.

ND has also been giving him whatever the hell he's been asking for: new facility going up, admissions allowing more undergrad transfers, NIL game is strong, and salary pool for coordinators/analysts and staff competes with just about anyone.

Is the NFL in his future? Wouldn't be surprised, but i highly doubt it is right now.



Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on January 19, 2025, 05:28:44 PMI believe it was Jockey who said many times that Carter was the best player in the draft that year, and teams that passed on him for dopey off-field stuff would regret it. Darn good call.

Eagles get the good Georgia players.  The Packers get underwear models
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RJax55

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 05:14:53 PMThey interviewed multiple minority candidates virtually. They interviewed someone in person who isn't on a team because those candidates cannot be interviewed until tomorrow at the earliest.

Not everything the Bears do needs to be complained about you know. The Rooney Rule has been "used" this way for years.


Yes to all of this.

The league needs to look at the Rooney Rule, especially in light of their own new rules not allowing contracted coaches to interview in-person prior to the end of the Divisional Round.

The Sultan

Quote from: MurphysTillClose on January 19, 2025, 05:31:25 PMHe's 39 years old and has 6 children, oldest still in HS. He is now one of the highest paid coaches in CFB after the signed extension a few weeks ago. He's not taking a +55% pay cut for that organization, one who waived him a mere 5-6 months after getting drafted. Happy wife, happy life as has been mentioned here many times with coaching searches. This one ain't it.

His connection to Warren is through ND, not the Bears, and was made before KW even became the GM. Warren is ND Law School grad.

The only job he'd leave ND for in the short-term would probably be tOSU. If that job was open, he'd be #1 on the list. He doesn't "need" an NFL job to get that.

ND has also been giving him whatever the hell he's been asking for: new facility going up, admissions allowing more undergrad transfers, NIL game is strong, and salary pool for coordinators/analysts and staff competes with just about anyone.

Is the NFL in his future? Wouldn't be surprised, but i highly doubt it is right now.

Yeah I think the Bears interviewing George was about having their final candidate lined up and will make the hire shortly. Sounds like either Johnson or McCarthy...my guess is the former since the interview was lined up quickly.

And yeah I think George knows he has no shot. This is about getting his name out there for his next step.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: RJax55 on January 19, 2025, 05:33:18 PMYes to all of this.

The league needs to look at the Rooney Rule, especially in light of their own new rules not allowing contracted coaches to interview in-person prior to the end of the Divisional Round.

I will say that interviewing minority candidates who aren't getting a head gig, but haven't been able to go through the interview process, isn't the worst thing.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 05:39:45 PMI will say that interviewing minority candidates who aren't getting a head gig, but haven't been able to go through the interview process, isn't the worst thing.
It would be better if you don't pass over more qualified minority candidates.

I don't believe they did the interview to satisfy/subvert the Rooney Rule. Maybe it was a favor to him or his agent.

I've said it before, the process is a clown show, but the ends will justify the means.

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 05:49:22 PMIt would be better if you don't pass over more qualified minority candidates.

I don't believe they did the interview to satisfy/subvert the Rooney Rule. Maybe it was a favor to him or his agent.

I've said it before, the process is a clown show, but the ends will justify the means.

At this point, I have no idea what you are complaining about.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Dish

Quote from: MurphysTillClose on January 19, 2025, 05:31:25 PMHe's 39 years old and has 6 children, oldest still in HS. He is now one of the highest paid coaches in CFB after the signed extension a few weeks ago. He's not taking a +55% pay cut for that organization, one who waived him a mere 5-6 months after getting drafted. Happy wife, happy life as has been mentioned here many times with coaching searches. This one ain't it.

His connection to Warren is through ND, not the Bears, and was made before KW even became the GM. Warren is ND Law School grad.

The only job he'd leave ND for in the short-term would probably be tOSU. If that job was open, he'd be #1 on the list. He doesn't "need" an NFL job to get that.

ND has also been giving him whatever the hell he's been asking for: new facility going up, admissions allowing more undergrad transfers, NIL game is strong, and salary pool for coordinators/analysts and staff competes with just about anyone.

Is the NFL in his future? Wouldn't be surprised, but i highly doubt it is right now.




Well, as I mentioned, the Tomlin news wasn't a coincidence regarding Freeman. 4 years, $64 million would not be a pay cut at all for him.

Again, the Bears will provide tea leaves for those who want them. In the last few days, both Schrager and Pelissero have continued to mention the Bears interest in Freeman. I very well may be wrong, but I firmly believe this is Freeman's job if he wants it.

I certainly wouldn't blame him one bit if he didn't want the gig, but certainly can't ignore the noise here.

Uncle Rico

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