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Billy Hoyle

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2025, 07:37:35 AMMourning after thoughts...
Meh.  Just another disappointing end to a season.
I've said many times, the worst thing a Lions fan can have is hope.
I said all along the Detroit had too many injuries and Goff wasn't the MVP.
30 defensive starters this season.  Two more lost during the game.
Ah, well.  Congratulations to the Commanders.

Just a numb feeling last night. That decision to throw with a five out and empty backfield on third and one was the turning point in the game. Gibbs was averaging 9 yards a carry, hand it to him and get the first down, go up 14-3. That will haunt me as a fan.

The defensive injuries really caught up. In the third quarter the Lions had two guys out there who had a combined one play all season. And like Hutch's injury, Robertson's injury was due to contact with his teammate while making a tackle. Snakebitten!

I was worried from the moment Washington won last week as running QBs always give the Lions trouble and man, Daniels was on fire. He's the real deal and will be a hall of fame if he stays healthy.

Just someone beat the Chiefs, please!
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 19, 2025, 08:12:57 AMThat decision to throw with a five out and empty backfield on third and one was the turning point in the game.

I'm not usually one for a single play being a turning point...but I have to agree that fumble certainly feels like that in retrospect.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 19, 2025, 08:12:57 AMThe defensive injuries really caught up. In the third quarter the Lions had two guys out there who had a combined one play all season. And like Hutch's injury, Robertson's injury was due to contact with his teammate while making a tackle. Snakebitten!


Morice Norris, #40,  UFA corner, activated for this game from the practice squad, played most of the second half at safety after Melifonwu pulled his hamstring.
Stantley Thomas-Oliver, #38, was the twelfth man on the field, looking lost and confused.  That may have been his first defensive snap of the season.

Plumbers and dentists indeed.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

BTW, this feels to me very much like the 2011 Packers, who finished 15-1, but had a defense barely hanging on especially after the Nick Collins career ending injury. A nagging feeling in the back of your head that you just aren't going to be able to outscore everyone.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Indeed.   History made.  Sultan and Dodds posting essentially the same thing.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2025, 08:33:50 AMIndeed.   History made.  Sultan and Dodds posting essentially the same thing.

Why did you have to go and ruin my day like that?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2025, 08:20:46 AMMorice Norris, #40,  UFA corner, activated for this game from the practice squad, played most of the second half at safety after Melifonwu pulled his hamstring.
Stantley Thomas-Oliver, #38, was the twelfth man on the field, looking lost and confused.  That may have been his first defensive snap of the season.

Plumbers and dentists indeed.

Goff may have not been MVP but he was great this year.  He was terrible last night.  As a Packers fan, I've seen that script a lot.  When the QB turns into a pumpkin, game over. 

Turnovers are always the great equalizer.  There was no deep analysis needed for last night.  That was the ballgame
Guster is for Lovers

cheebs09

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2025, 08:33:50 AMIndeed.   History made.  Sultan and Dodds posting essentially the same thing.

Hell freezing over explains the super cold temperatures.

PointWarrior

Goff just threw another interception....

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: PointWarrior on January 19, 2025, 10:04:23 AMGoff just threw another interception....

are you sure it wasn't Jameson Williams?

Sometimes Ben Johnson knowing he's the smartest guy in the room backfires spectacularly.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

tower912

Johnson hit with the reverse to Williams when Goff was in the tent.  He hit with the lateral into a shovel pass.  The reverse into a pass didn't work.   That was just the final shovel of dirt on the coffin.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

To make the Lions fans feel better:

The Bears are interviewing Tennessee State HC Eddie George for their HC opening. I mean he has a gaudy 24-22 record, so it makes sense.



Please tell me how the Bears' are conducting themselves like all the other NFL teams? Any NFL team can talk to Eddie George any time they want to. This isn't some unique opportunity to talk to another team's assistant, he's a FCS coach.

tower912

If they go, they go.  Circle of life.   It appears that there is a line of succession within the organization to replace them.  So, thanks and good luck.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Don't obsess over the Bears'  process. If dish is right, they are just biding their time until Freeman is available, which will happen in 48 hours. No reason not to talk to others.

And Eddie George has done really good work at Tennessee State. Not that it's NFL head coach worthy, but he's been way better than his overall record indicates.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

cheebs09

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 10:38:15 AMDon't obsess over the Bears'  process. If dish is right, they are just biding their time until Freeman is available, which will happen in 48 hours. No reason not to talk to others.

And Eddie George has done really good work at Tennessee State. Not that it's NFL head coach worthy, but he's been way better than his overall record indicates.

I saw him perform when the musical "Chicago" was in Milwaukee. That has to count for something.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: PointWarrior on January 19, 2025, 10:04:23 AMGoff just threw another interception....

The Packers just hung their "Youngest Team in the NFL" banner
Guster is for Lovers

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 10:38:15 AMDon't obsess over the Bears'  process. If dish is right, they are just biding their time until Freeman is available, which will happen in 48 hours. No reason not to talk to others.

And Eddie George has done really good work at Tennessee State. Not that it's NFL head coach worthy, but he's been way better than his overall record indicates.
You are right, it is fairly minor in the lager picture; but everyone can agree the Bears' FO should be spending their time more productively (2nd interviews, draft, FAs, stadium, etc.). The optics are bad and I wouldn't point it out if they were using the HC opening to snoop around other NFL team's coaching staffs.

I have zero problems with the Bears talking to Eddie George to build a relationship should he turn into a good coaching prospect. I trust you that he is doing good things and someone to keep an eye on.

The Sultan

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 11:03:56 AMYou are right, it is fairly minor in the lager picture; but everyone can agree the Bears' FO should be spending their time more productively (2nd interviews, draft, FAs, stadium, etc.). The optics are bad and I wouldn't point it out if they were using the HC opening to snoop around other NFL team's coaching staffs.

I have zero problems with the Bears talking to Eddie George to build a relationship should he turn into a good coaching prospect. I trust you that he is doing good things and someone to keep an eye on.


I think you are worrying too much about what they are spending their time on.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 11:11:08 AMI think you are worrying too much about what they are spending their time on.
That sounds like a quote from Kevin Warren talking to George McCaskey.

tower912

#6695
Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 11:03:56 AMYou are right, it is fairly minor in the lager picture;

So, have a beer and relax?   It'll be ale right?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUBurrow

Quote from: The Sultan on January 19, 2025, 10:38:15 AMDon't obsess over the Bears'  process. If dish is right, they are just biding their time until Freeman is available, which will happen in 48 hours. No reason not to talk to others.

This seems like the simplest and likeliest explanation more every day.  And interviewing longshot candidates probably builds goodwill for staff hires, with their agents, etc.  So really doesn't hurt if you're just waiting for tomorrow's game to be over.

The thing that jumped out about the Eddie George interview is that despite all the interviews so far, the Bears still needed another in-person minority interview to satisfy the Rooney Rule.  If Freeman was a done deal, they wouldn't have needed to do that.  Ben Johnson is now officially available, and if we're throwing sh!t at the wall - Ryan Day doesn't have any connection to the Bears, does he?

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on January 19, 2025, 11:40:55 AMSo, have a beer and relax?
Sorry, wrong venue I guess.

My original point still stands: Lions' fans can look to the Bears to make them feel better.

tower912

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 19, 2025, 11:58:44 AMSorry, wrong venue I guess.

My original point still stands: Lions' fans can look to the Bears to make them feel better.
You are fine.  You typed lager rather than larger.  Ergo, a beer joke.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MUBurrow on January 19, 2025, 11:53:53 AMIf Freeman was a done deal, they wouldn't have needed to do that.  Ben Johnson is now officially available, and if we're throwing sh!t at the wall - Ryan Day doesn't have any connection to the Bears, does he?
Good points. I think Freemen is a long shot to take the job if offered. It would require a pay cut and far less job security, seeing that the GM is on the hot seat.

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