2024-25 NFL Thread

[Pakuni]

Mark Andrews has been a good tight end for a long time. And now he'll be remembered forever for this very not-good game.

Jackie Smith 2.0

Whoa ... didn't see Tower's follow up, but yep.

[jesmu84]

Ben Johnson to Chicago.

Dennis Allen as DC

[The Sultan]

Ben Johnson to Chicago.

Dennis Allen as DC

Those are good moves.

[tower912]

I am surprised. Can't be right all the time.  Ah, well.  Best of luck and thanks for the performance that earned you this opportunity.

[Dish]

I'm shocked, especially how fast this happened. I didn't think Johnson would leave Detroit for this organization, at all.

We'll see how this goes. I'm hopeful, but have concerns as a first time HC coming into this organization.

[MU82]

Well, that explains some of Johnson's play calls Saturday. He wanted the Lions' season to be over so he could move on to being a head coach!

Good luck with the Bears, young man. You'll need it.

[Dish]

The Dennis Allen hire is very good, almost as important as the Johnson hire. Having a former HC on staff is a good sign.

[The Sultan]

I'm shocked, especially how fast this happened. I didn't think Johnson would leave Detroit for this organization, at all.

We'll see how this goes. I'm hopeful, but have concerns as a first time HC coming into this organization.

It sounds like he turned down further interest by Jacksonville, and it was implied that it was due to Trent Baalke somehow still being around.

[jesmu84]

It sounds like he turned down further interest by Jacksonville, and it was implied that it was due to Trent Baalke somehow still being around.

https://x.com/VinnyBonsignore/status/1881444532354728015?t=S_TL1txOuuakV8ku6A2lbg&s=19

[Uncle Rico]

It sounds like he turned down further interest by Jacksonville, and it was implied that it was due to Trent Baalke somehow still being around.

At least he'll be a viable OC in 4 years for someone

[Jockey]

I'm shocked, especially how fast this happened. I didn't think Johnson would leave Detroit for this organization, at all.

We'll see how this goes. I'm hopeful, but have concerns as a first time HC coming into this organization.

I'm surprised as well. Maybe having Brady on board was a detriment rather than a selling point.

[JWags85]

He very well could be another failure and the Bears still stink, but the Bears went out and got the hottest candidate on the market and presumably paid up to do so.  Against all odds, they made a really good move.  Shocked but excited.  Really looking forward to seeing him work with Caleb.

And Ive seen people bagging on the Allen piece online, but that's missing the point based on recency bias.  He was a mediocre HC but he's a very good defensive mind.

[Pakuni]

The Dennis Allen hire is very good, almost as important as the Johnson hire. Having a former HC on staff is a good sign.

Dennis Allen is way down the list of guys I'd want to mentor a young head coach.
His players disliked him in New Orleans, and everyone disliked him in Oakland.
Pretty good rep as a DC, but not the guy I'd want Johnson turning to for advice.
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/10/saints-dennis-allen-amy-trask-raiders-what-the-football-podcast-jameis-winston-jamaal-williams/

[WhiteTrash]

The ends justified the means. IMO, there were 2 or 3 good candidates and Johnson was one. Excited to see his staff and next season.

Please Poles, stay away from the staff and let Johnson do his job.

[WhiteTrash]

Dennis Allen is way down the list of guys I'd want to mentor a young head coach.
His players disliked him in New Orleans, and everyone disliked him in Oakland.
Pretty good rep as a DC, but not the guy I'd want Johnson turning to for advice.
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2024/01/10/saints-dennis-allen-amy-trask-raiders-what-the-football-podcast-jameis-winston-jamaal-williams/

Was Johnson liked in Detroit?

[jesmu84]

Allegedly...

https://x.com/dabearsblog/status/1881464275249910082?t=4cD62oUUaHXeciJz42S2Xw&s=19

[tower912]

Don't forget, Johnson is also part of the Matt Patricia tree.

[Pakuni]

Don't forget, Johnson is also part of the Matt Patricia tree.

Joe Philbin tree.

[Pakuni]

Was Johnson liked in Detroit?

Haven't heard anything bad about him.

[Dish]

Second the championship game ends, Al Golden headed to Cincinnati as new DC.

[MU82]

Was Johnson liked in Detroit?

Kind of a personal question.

[Pakuni]

Second the championship game ends, Al Golden headed to Cincinnati as new DC.

Running Cover 0 on 3rd and 11 against those receivers certainly was a choice.

[The Sultan]

Listening to people talking about the Bears' search...

Johnson was always their top choice, but they interviewed a bunch of candidates in case things fell apart with Johnson, AND to learn more about how other coaches and other teams operate. We will see how it plays out, but I don't think there is any room to complain about how they conducted this search.

[Billy Hoyle]

Was Johnson liked in Detroit?

very much so.

[MU82]

From The Athletic about Mahomes and the Chiefs getting all the calls:

Forget the conspiracy theories. NFL officials have assessed 47 penalties against the Chiefs in the fourth quarters and overtimes of one-score games over the past two seasons, including playoffs. Those same officials have assessed 48 penalties against the Chiefs' opponents in those same critical situations. The yardage totals are similarly close: 307 yards against the Chiefs, compared to 340 yards against their opponents. (Just 13 months ago, the Chiefs were the ones complaining about officiating after a big game.)

Yes, Mahomes has a 7-0 record when Clay Martin referees his games, counting the Chiefs' 23-14 victory over the Houston Texans in the divisional round Saturday. But ... Mahomes has undefeated records with lots of referees. He's a combined 25-0 with Brad Rogers, Tra Blake, Jerome Boger, Adrian Hill, Scott Novak and Alan Eck. (Update: Clete Blakeman, with whom Mahomes has his second-worst win percentage, has been assigned to Sunday's AFC Championship Game between the Bills and Chiefs.)

Mahomes might win 80 percent of his starts with you or me wearing stripes and the white hat.

No matter what the evidence says, the optics did not look right Saturday as Mahomes drew two highly questionable 15-yard penalties to help win a game in which Houston outgained Kansas City by more than 100 yards. Especially when Mahomes sometimes tries to trick officials into throwing additional flags.