2024-25 NFL Thread

[jesmu84]

McCaskey says that alignment between a GM and head coach is not essential.  Thus endeth the Ben Johnson courtship.

I'm sure the winningest franchises have no significant alignment between their GM and coaches.

Smdh

[WhiteTrash]

I think David Shaw will be an excellent coach in Chicago

Honestly,  this is the guy that is the most scarry for Bears fans. Just plain weird as a candidate. His resume screams Sunbelt Conference.

[Uncle Rico]

Honestly,  this is the guy that is the most scarry for Bears fans. Just plain weird as a candidate. His resume screams Sunbelt Conference.

He had NFL momentum about a decade ago but now?  Woof

[jesmu84]

Bears add Pete Caroll and Joe Brady to interviews

[WhiteTrash]

Bears add Pete Caroll and Joe Brady to interviews

What's the old saying? If you have 20 candidates, you have no candidates? 

[wadesworld]

What's the old saying? If you have 20 candidates, you have no candidates? 

This is literally how every coaching search in the history of every sport at the college level and above goes. You cast a wide net and you come down to a finalist list, usually of about 3. The Bears could already have a handshake agreement with their next coach, and they'd still go through with this process.

The Bears could hire Dan Campbell and KOC on the same staff and you'd say "This is why the Bears organization sucks."

Let's see who they end up with.

[GB Warrior]

McCarthy to the Bears is a funny, meme-able thing, but if I'm the Bears, I could eff this up a lot worse than him. He has a high floor, has proven to get the most out of young QBs. Offense is unimaginative, and I would insist on heavy influence on the OC. But he's a good mentor, a good man, and a good influence for a roster that has not had one.

The Packers only struck gold once in 2010, but real ones remember that they thought they were a contender in the preseason before the injuries started mounting. And while he never did it in Dallas, he coached a lot of really good rosters. That he seems to still have the locker room after a cluster fck of a season is telling.

[WhiteTrash]

This is literally how every coaching search in the history of every sport at the college level and above goes. You cast a wide net and you come down to a finalist list, usually of about 3. The Bears could already have a handshake agreement with their next coach, and they'd still go through with this process.

The Bears could hire Dan Campbell and KOC on the same staff and you'd say "This is why the Bears organization sucks."

Let's see who they end up with.

Is that how it went down when the Patriots hired Belichick or Mayo?

This is literally not the way every coaching hire goes, but your point is valid that I don't trust the Bears. For the record; I didn't not badmouth the Eberflus hire nor the Poles hire.

[wadesworld]

Is that how it went down when the Patriots hired Belichick or Mayo?

This is literally not the way every coaching hire goes, but your point is valid that I don't trust the Bears. For the record; I didn't not badmouth the Eberflus hire nor the Poles hire.

I was hardly following the NFL beyond the Packers when the Patriots hired Belichick so I don't know on that one, and the Mayo hire went great for the Pats.

[WhiteTrash]

I was hardly following the NFL beyond the Packers when the Patriots hired Belichick so I don't know on that one, and the Mayo hire went great for the Pats.

Sorry, I falsely interpreted you meant "literally" when you actually wrote ......... "literally". My bad.

[JWags85]

Bears add Pete Caroll and Joe Brady to interviews

The Joe Brady redemption arc was fast and furious.  Seems he may have been just in a crap situation in Carolina than a fraud post-LSU.  Not sure if I'd want him as a HC yet, but he's got an offense humming.

[MU82]

The Joe Brady redemption arc was fast and furious.  Seems he may have been just in a crap situation in Carolina than a fraud post-LSU.  Not sure if I'd want him as a HC yet, but he's got an offense humming.

He's a bright guy but he simply wasn't ready to be an NFL OC when Rhule hied him for the Panthers.

He was a low-level assistant with the Saints, then spent one year as LSU's "passing game coordinator" - not even an OC with playcalling duties - before Rhule hired him.

He needed more seasoning and got it as Buffalo's QB coach for 2 years before moving up to OC.

No idea how good a head coach he'll be, though you can say that about most coordinators - especially those as young as Brady, who is still only 35.

[The Sultan]

What's the old saying? If you have 20 candidates, you have no candidates? 

These days teams screen a ton of candidates virtually. Not a big deal.

[Uncle Rico]

He's a bright guy but he simply wasn't ready to be an NFL OC when Rhule hied him for the Panthers.

He was a low-level assistant with the Saints, then spent one year as LSU's "passing game coordinator" - not even an OC with playcalling duties - before Rhule hired him.

He needed more seasoning and got it as Buffalo's QB coach for 2 years before moving up to OC.

No idea how good a head coach he'll be, though you can say that about most coordinators - especially those as young as Brady, who is still only 35.

He was the play caller at LSU

[The Sultan]

He was the play caller at LSU

With Joe Burrow at QB, and Justin Jefferson and Ja'Marr Chase as receivers.

Regardless, that might be the best offense I have ever seen at the college level.

[tower912]

FanDuel lowering profit estimates.  Fans keep betting the favorites in the NFL and the favorites keep winning.

[WhiteTrash]

These days teams screen a ton of candidates virtually. Not a big deal.

I agree it is not a big deal and was mostly just poking fun. But the list of candidates is so varied, it feels like they have no strategy regarding the qualities they are looking for. It appears the only qualification is that you have held some type of coaching job in the NFL or college. The processes feels directionless but the results will justify the means.

[WhiteTrash]

Okay, now I'm going to pile on the Bears.

CEO McCaskey bemoaned the fact that Bears fans sold their tickets to Lions fans as the Lions fans tried "to take over Soldier Field". Okay, but he himself sold a suite to the CEO of Circa, Derek Stevens, who told the Bears it was for him and his Lion's fan friends. 

The actual Bears are funnier than the SNL Super Fans.

[Jockey]

The Bears are just repeating the actions that put them here in the 1st place.

Good organizations almost always are in the playoffs.

Bad organizations live every day like Groundhog's Day. The Bears, Giants, Jets all suck because of the organization. The people at the top stay the same - the results stay the same. All their fans have for hope is the blind squirrel result.

The Bears say alignment between the coach and GM is unimportant. I think every successful franchise would beg to differ. The Giants celebrate losing maybe the best player in the league, by thinking it's a coup to sign a journeyman RB to replace him. The Jets barely function at all other than to think Madden NFL and a spoiled teenager are where you look to for advice.

Trestman, Fox, Nagy, Eberflus, Pace, Poles, Phillips, McCaskey and a pompous, egotistic Warren show who and what the Bears both are and will continue to be.

[Billy Hoyle]

Okay, now I'm going to pile on the Bears.

CEO McCaskey bemoaned the fact that Bears fans sold their tickets to Lions fans as the Lions fans tried "to take over Soldier Field". Okay, but he himself sold a suite to the CEO of Circa, Derek Stevens, who told the Bears it was for him and his Lion's fan friends. 

The actual Bears are funnier than the SNL Super Fans.

Lions fans have been taking over stadiums all season. Last year there were at least 15k of us in New Orleans, this season 25k to 30k (and nearly the entire 600 level) in Indy. Can you blame Bears fans who would rather, at minimum, get triple what they paid for a ticket to watch that crap fest of a team the Bears were trotting out?

[Shaka Shart]

Lions fans have been taking over stadiums all season. Last year there were at least 15k of us in New Orleans, this season 25k to 30k (and nearly the entire 600 level) in Indy. Can you blame Bears fans who would rather, at minimum, get triple what they paid for a ticket to watch that crap fest of a team the Bears were trotting out?

Paid off the season tix for the year with the packers and lions game 🙏

[WhiteTrash]

The Bears are just repeating the actions that put them here in the 1st place.

Good organizations almost always are in the playoffs.

Bad organizations live every day like Groundhog's Day. The Bears, Giants, Jets all suck because of the organization. The people at the top stay the same - the results stay the same. All their fans have for hope is the blind squirrel result.

The Bears say alignment between the coach and GM is unimportant. I think every successful franchise would beg to differ. The Giants celebrate losing maybe the best player in the league, by thinking it's a coup to sign a journeyman RB to replace him. The Jets barely function at all other than to think Madden NFL and a spoiled teenager are where you look to for advice.

Trestman, Fox, Nagy, Eberflus, Pace, Poles, Phillips, McCaskey and a pompous, egotistic Warren show who and what the Bears both are and will continue to be.

Well said.

[WhiteTrash]

Lions fans have been taking over stadiums all season. Last year there were at least 15k of us in New Orleans, this season 25k to 30k (and nearly the entire 600 level) in Indy. Can you blame Bears fans who would rather, at minimum, get triple what they paid for a ticket to watch that crap fest of a team the Bears were trotting out?

I'd sell in a heartbeat.

McCaskey's comments illustrate how oblivious he is of his own NFL team and its fans. And that would be okay if just hired a president to run it, who would hire a GM to construct the team and hire a coach. But without having a real clue as to what is going on, he  wants to pick the coach? It is comical.

[The Sultan]

I'd sell in a heartbeat.

McCaskey's comments illustrate how oblivious he is of his own NFL team and its fans. And that would be okay if just hired a president to run it, who would hire a GM to construct the team and hire a coach. But without having a real clue as to what is going on, he  wants to pick the coach? It is comical.

Every owner is going to be involved in a head coaching search and will sign off on the hire. He just has to trust his people.

The problem is that bad owners usally don't hire good people and that just infiltrates the entire organization. And Kevin Warren isn't great.

Anyway its not hopeless. If the Packers and Lions can be turned around, the Bears certainly can. They either have to sell or get a different family member in charge.

[WhiteTrash]

Every owner is going to be involved in a head coaching search and will sign off on the hire. He just has to trust his people.

The problem is that bad owners usally don't hire good people and that just infiltrates the entire organization. And Kevin Warren isn't great.

Anyway its not hopeless. If the Packers and Lions can be turned around, the Bears certainly can. They either have to sell or get a different family member in charge.

The organization is so screwed up that it almost not worth even evaluating the people in place like Warren and Poles. Ownership has lost control and understanding of the franchise to the point where nobody can be effective.

Who knows who is making the calls on the stadium or if Poles was actually the one who hired Flus? It is even questionable if Flus was hiring his own assistant coaches.

If you watched the Poles presser yesterday you'd see an NFL GM carry himself like a kid making a speech to be 5th grade class president. I think the man is beaten down and not sure if he'll be the Bears' GM for more than the next ten minuets.