2024-25 NFL Thread

[Pakuni]

Is Justin Herbert...
A) less clutch Phil Rivers
B) more likeable Jay Cutler
C) cheaper Dak Prescott

[Uncle Rico]

Is Justin Herbert...
A) less clutch Phil Rivers
B) more likeable Jay Cutler
C) cheaper Dak Prescott

A, I think?  He's better than Cutler and Dak, probably?

[The Sultan]

Another team is going to take a chance on Russell Wilson aren't they...

[CreightonWarrior]

Another team is going to take a chance on Russell Wilson aren't they...

Vikings?

[Uncle Rico]

Vikings?

Nope.  They'll pay Darnold or go with McCarthy.  I don't like it, but they've got smart people running things there right now.

They might have a current Steelers QB on their roster next year but it won't be Wilson

[PGsHeroes32]

Vikings?

Don't be a jackass

[PGsHeroes32]

Man, I know its at your own 30 but that was legit like an inch short

Put in field and dive forward. You're playing baltimore. Gotta go big balls.

[Uncle Rico]

Derrick Henry is legit one of my favorite players of the last decade

[CreightonWarrior]

Nope.  They'll pay Darnold or go with McCarthy.  I don't like it, but they've got smart people running things there right now.

They might have a current Steelers QB on their roster next year but it won't be Wilson

I thought the idea is that Darnold has played well enough to force a contract Vikings might not want to pay.

[The Sultan]

I thought the idea is that Darnold has played well enough to force a contract Vikings might not want to pay.

Franchise tag him. They have the cap space.

[The Sultan]

The Steelers look like they need to change something up. Kahn as GM...Tomlin as coach...something. They are very mediocre.

[Uncle Rico]

Franchise tag him. They have the cap space.

Right.  Monday is a big game for him.  If he plays like he did against Detroit, I bet they let him walk.  Two games a career does not make but McCarthy on a rookie deal if they believe in him isn't the worst thing for them

[MU82]

Well, this one's going according to form.

[MU82]

Franchise tag him. They have the cap space.

Yep. An easy decision IMHO.

[forgetful]

The holes Henry ends of seeing because of the threat of Jackson is insane.

[MU82]

Russ isn't what he used to be (obviously), but he still throws a heck of a deep pass. He gives his receivers opportunities to make plays ... and they often do.

[JWags85]

The Steelers look like they need to change something up. Kahn as GM...Tomlin as coach...something. They are very mediocre.

They are really in such a weird purgatory. I know its kind of en vogue to hate on Tomlin and be ready for him to be done.  But his track record is still so good in terms of consistency and having a high floor.

Playoffs 4 of the last 5 years.  Finished 1st or 2nd in the AFC North 13 out of 17 seasons.  Has won more 9+ games 10 out of the last 11 years.  He really doesn't have down years.

But at the same time, he hasn't won a playoff game since Obama was still in office.  He's probably the highest floor NFL coach in recent memory that hasn't been stacking titles.  Honestly, he's not all that different than Mike McCarthy, he just doesn't have the same glaring game management errors in big game moments recently I guess.

Also, its crazy that Tomlin is only 52.  Wild that someone becomes a HC as young as he did and sticks in one spot forever with that level of success.

Its awfully hard to fire him given all that.  I would think replacing Khan might be a better move.  He's really never been outside the Steelers organization in his career.  Might be good to have have some outside perspective.

[The Sultan]

Oh I don't think Tomlin should be fired. I just wonder if Tomlin himself would do better with a change of scenery. It feels very much like the end of the Chuck Noll era. They pride themselves on their patience and continuity, but sometimes you just need to change things up.

Doing what they are doing now isn't really working.

[Jockey]

The Steelers look like they need to change something up. Kahn as GM...Tomlin as coach...something. They are very mediocre.

Don't all teams look mediocre without a good QB? They are just in limbo-land. Good enough to get to the playoffs. But never drafting high enough to get a top QB.

[The Sultan]

They've spent a ton of draft capital and cap space on the defense. Sticking with and developing a young quarterback would be a better option than cycling through veterans because they help you win now.

[Jockey]

Lot of new faces in the NFC North next year. All 4 teams are in top 10 of cap space available.

[Uncle Rico]

They've spent a ton of draft capital and cap space on the defense. Sticking with and developing a young quarterback would be a better option than cycling through veterans because they help you win now.

They whiffed on Pickett, though.  Think they had to go stopgap.

[WhiteTrash]

A, I think?  He's better than Cutler and Dak, probably?

Is Justin Herbert...
A) less clutch Phil Rivers
B) more likeable Jay Cutler
C) cheaper Dak Prescott

He'll get better, if he got one of Stroud's lectures on playing NFL QB after the games like other QBs did this year.   

[WhiteTrash]

The Steelers look like they need to change something up. Kahn as GM...Tomlin as coach...something. They are very mediocre.

Tomlin has been there 18 years, maybe it would be good for both him and the Steelers to make a change. He is a great coach would would rightfully get a job in about 2 seconds. I think sometimes change is good. Maybe the Steelers have to take a step back in order to take a step forward?

[Uncle Rico]

In a non-surprising development, Mike Vrabel takes the Patriots job