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Uncle Rico

"Well, we're all going to die."

RJax55

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 06, 2025, 08:07:59 PMThat list screams to me: "we don't know what we want and don't know what we are doing." >:(

The team can't hire a Ben Johnson or a Brian Flores right now even if both parties wanted due to league rules. What's the downside with talking to numerous candidates at this moment?

tower912

You never know when a candidate is going to win the powerpoint.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: tower912 on January 06, 2025, 03:11:54 PMThe Bears want to talk to McCarthy.

I know the league requires all boxes be checked in the interviewing process. Maybe McCarty's on the list to satisfy both white and fat.

WhiteTrash

#6204
Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 06, 2025, 09:25:51 PMI know the league requires all boxes be checked in the interviewing process. Maybe McCarty's on the list to satisfy both white and fat.
He's part of the NFL initiative to teach the game and give jobs to people new to football.

FWIW, some guy on NFL radio said the Bears are just "trying to stir the pot" with Jerry and the Cowboys.  I'm not aware of any bad blood with the Bears and Cowboys; is anyone? 

JWags85

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 06, 2025, 09:42:02 PMHe's part of the NFL initiative to teach the game and give jobs to people new to football.

FWIW, some guy on NFL radio said the Bears are just "trying to stir the pot" with Jerry and the Cowboys.  I'm not aware of any bad blood with the Bears and Cowboys; is anyone? 

That sounds like a hamfisted attempt at making the Bears FO seem clever and Machiavellian.  Do they think the Cowboys would want one of their candidates so showing interest in McCarthy would make Jerry possessive and keep them away?  Cause that's moronic.

MUBurrow

Quote from: JWags85 on January 06, 2025, 10:21:45 PMThat sounds like a hamfisted attempt at making the Bears FO seem clever and Machiavellian.  Do they think the Cowboys would want one of their candidates so showing interest in McCarthy would make Jerry possessive and keep them away?  Cause that's moronic.

Giving Chicago the most possible benefit of the doubt, its a favor to McCarthy's agent, Don Yee, to put Jerrah on the hot seat to extend Mac.  But who knows with that FO.

WhiteTrash

So it appears from the Bears' press conference today that Poles is staying but Warren placed is butt firmly on the hot seat for the up coming year. (when asked about Poles continued employment he said "a year is a life time")

Typical Bears; Warren and McCaskey will not let Poles pick his HC and will fire Poles next year because the HC they gave Poles did not work out, only to then saddle the new GM with the HC they picked. ..... and so on, and so on....

Williams will be a very good QB, just not for the Bears. I see him leaving ASAP.

The Sultan

IDK, I think the Bears could do A LOT worse than McCarthy. He's a high floor coach. Great locker room guy, good with young quarterbacks, runs a nice offense, and will have the team playing hard.

I get that he's also a low ceiling guy who relies a little too much on an aging network of assistants. And gametime decisions can be...dicey. But he'll get them respectable and into the playoffs. No doubt.

I also get the impression that he can work with pretty much anyone as a GM. Not a lot of room for drama.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Antonio Pierce fired.

Among the early named floated are Mike Vrabel, Liam Coen and ... Pete Carroll?

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2025, 03:02:56 PMAntonio Pierce fired.

Among the early named floated are Mike Vrabel, Liam Coen and ... Pete Carroll?

They have been floating Pete Carroll for the Jets locally here the last 2 days.

jesmu84

Quote from: The Sultan on January 07, 2025, 02:58:20 PMIDK, I think the Bears could do A LOT worse than McCarthy. He's a high floor coach. Great locker room guy, good with young quarterbacks, runs a nice offense, and will have the team playing hard.

I get that he's also a low ceiling guy who relies a little too much on an aging network of assistants. And gametime decisions can be...dicey. But he'll get them respectable and into the playoffs. No doubt.

I also get the impression that he can work with pretty much anyone as a GM. Not a lot of room for drama.

Welcome back

jesmu84

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 07, 2025, 01:26:33 PMSo it appears from the Bears' press conference today that Poles is staying but Warren placed is butt firmly on the hot seat for the up coming year. (when asked about Poles continued employment he said "a year is a life time")

Typical Bears; Warren and McCaskey will not let Poles pick his HC and will fire Poles next year because the HC they gave Poles did not work out, only to then saddle the new GM with the HC they picked. ..... and so on, and so on....

Williams will be a very good QB, just not for the Bears. I see him leaving ASAP.

This is what's so difficult about sports teams.

If the GM is "on the hot seat" then their only incentive is to win in the short term to keep their job. So they could throw away future assets in an attempt to win now.

That seems to go against the idea of a successful franchise.

RJax55

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 07, 2025, 03:37:15 PMThis is what's so difficult about sports teams.

If the GM is "on the hot seat" then their only incentive is to win in the short term to keep their job. So they could throw away future assets in an attempt to win now.

That seems to go against the idea of a successful franchise.

True. But, the Bears need to win in the short-term. They have a QB on a rookie deal, cap space and 3 picks in the top 50. The time is now.

RJax55

Quote from: The Sultan on January 07, 2025, 02:58:20 PMIDK, I think the Bears could do A LOT worse than McCarthy. He's a high floor coach. Great locker room guy, good with young quarterbacks, runs a nice offense, and will have the team playing hard.

I get that he's also a low ceiling guy who relies a little too much on an aging network of assistants. And gametime decisions can be...dicey. But he'll get them respectable and into the playoffs. No doubt.

I also get the impression that he can work with pretty much anyone as a GM. Not a lot of room for drama.

I agree with this. Will be interesting to see what the Cowboys do.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2025, 03:02:56 PMAntonio Pierce fired.


My heart breaks for the scumbag.

Don't be surprised if the Raiders make an all-out push (if they haven't started already) for Deion Sanders and figure out a way to get Shadeur.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 07, 2025, 03:47:58 PMMy heart breaks for the scumbag.

Don't be surprised if the Raiders make an all-out push (if they haven't started already) for Deion Sanders and figure out a way to get Shadeur.

Tom Brady is calling the shots here. Pretty sure he's not a crazy person.

tower912

McCaskey says that alignment between a GM and head coach is not essential.  Thus endeth the Ben Johnson courtship.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

cheebs09

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 07, 2025, 03:30:54 PMThey have been floating Pete Carroll for the Jets locally here the last 2 days.

Him and Rodgers could compare 9/11 conspiracies.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2025, 03:56:08 PMTom Brady is calling the shots here. Pretty sure he's not a crazy person.

As much as I cannot stand him I think Sanders could be a very good NFL coach.
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

Pakuni

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on January 07, 2025, 04:01:35 PMAs much as I cannot stand him I think Sanders could be a very good NFL coach.

Based on what?
He's never coached a minute in the NFL and as a college coach he has a .500 record vs FBS opponents. His record against top 25 opponents is 1-7, and that win came in early 2023 against a TCU team that then was #17, but finished the season 5-7 and unranked.
I can't predict the future, but nothing in his coaching history to date suggests he'd be very good NFL coach.

The Sultan

Quote from: tower912 on January 07, 2025, 03:58:19 PMMcCaskey says that alignment between a GM and head coach is not essential.  Thus endeth the Ben Johnson courtship.

I'm just dumbfounded that they can't understand that they are hamstringing their entire coaching process because they want to keep Poles around, but also don't want to extend him.

I don't know why this is so hard. Either get rid of him...or extend him. I could understand arguments for both. But what they are doing now is just so strange.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BM1090

Quote from: Pakuni on January 07, 2025, 04:12:39 PMBased on what?
He's never coached a minute in the NFL and as a college coach he has a .500 record vs FBS opponents. His record against top 25 opponents is 1-7, and that win came in early 2023 against a TCU team that then was #17, but finished the season 5-7 and unranked.
I can't predict the future, but nothing in his coaching history to date suggests he'd be very good NFL coach.

He's turned two programs around quickly. He preaches accountability but also empowers players. I could see it working.

jesmu84

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 06, 2025, 07:06:31 PMSo far, bears have asked to interview:

-Monken ravens OC
-glenn Lions DC
-johnson lions OC
-mccarthy cowboys HC
-shaw broncos personnel/former Stanford HC
-Flores vikings DC
-Smith Steelers OC
-Kafka Giants OC
-Petzing Cardinals OC
-Weaver Dolphins DC

Bears interviewing Vrabel tomorrow.

Cowboys denied the bears interviewing McCarthy

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on January 07, 2025, 04:21:30 PMI'm just dumbfounded that they can't understand that they are hamstringing their entire coaching process because they want to keep Poles around, but also don't want to extend him.

I don't know why this is so hard. Either get rid of him...or extend him. I could understand arguments for both. But what they are doing now is just so strange.

I think David Shaw will be an excellent coach in Chicago
"Well, we're all going to die."

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