2024-25 NFL Thread

[Jockey]

Four minutes into bills lions and it's clear why Goff will not win MVP

Yup. He was held to 494 yards and 5 TDs.

I'll stick by my original assessment. If the Lions end up with the best record, Goff wins.

But Allen and Saquan have been fabulous.

[Uncle Rico]

Yup. He was held to 494 yards and 5 TDs.

I'll stick by my original assessment. If the Lions end up with the best record, Goff wins.

But Allen and Saquan have been fabulous.

It's Allen and I don't think it's close at the moment. 

[Jockey]

It's Allen and I don't think it's close at the moment. 

I agree Allen has been the best, but more often than not, the QB on the best team wins (assuming he has had a very good season).

[Lennys Tap]

It's Allen and I don't think it's close at the moment. 

Allen wins it but it's been stated here that Goff isn't even a candidate for MVP. He's clearly #2 - IMO that qualifies as a candidate.

[Uncle Rico]

Allen wins it but it's been stated here that Goff isn't even a candidate for MVP. He's clearly #2 - IMO that qualifies as a candidate.

Correct, he's definitely a candidate and deserving

[jesmu84]

Jeez. Another DT, 2 CBs and an RB for Detroit out for the year

[Billy Hoyle]

The Lions loses Alim McNeil for the year (ACL), Khalil Dorsey for the year (broken ankle) Carlton Davis III for six weeks, and now David Montgomery has a MCL sprain which will keep him out the rest of the regular season. Yesterday they had 12 of the 19 defensive players who played in the opener out injured and now have a total of 20 players on IR, 14 on the defensive side.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2024/12/16/detroit-lions-news-injured-reserve-players-2024/77022616007/

[tower912]

(Eeyore voice) Oh, well.  Thanks for noticing.



Yes, it is sad to the point of being  tragicomic.

 I think other teams' practice squads have been picked bare.  In the secondary, the best hope is for Mosley and Rakestraw's hamstring to be healed sufficiently and Melifonwu's finger to be healed.  At libebacker, Nowaske should come out of concussion protocols.   Up front, plug in the scavenged plumbers and dentists and hope.

Due to coaching obligations and the Lions stinking, I went nearly a decade without watching more than a handful of games per season.  Is there precedent for this many injuries on one side of the ball in a season?  Is this an outlier?

[Jockey]

(Eeyore voice) Oh, well.  Thanks for noticing.



Yes, it is sad to the point of being  tragicomic.

 I think other teams' practice squads have been picked bare.  In the secondary, the best hope is for Mosley and Rakestraw's hamstring to be healed sufficiently and Melifonwu's finger to be healed.  At libebacker, Nowaske should come out of concussion protocols.   Up front, plug in the scavenged plumbers and dentists and hope.

Due to coaching obligations and the Lions stinking, I went nearly a decade without watching more than a handful of games per season.  Is there precedent for this many injuries on one side of the ball in a season?  Is this an outlier?

I wouldn't say unprecedented - but it is extremely rare.

[Billy Hoyle]

I wouldn't say unprecedented - but it is extremely rare.

The Packers 2010 team won the SB with 13 players on IR. The Lions have 16 on defense alone and only one of the original four starting linebackers from game one playing and now only one of the four D line starters from game one active:  https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1868687603886911731

[tower912]

The only front 7 defender who has played every game this season is Jack Campbell.


Ongoing joke among men (and some women) of all ages is asking each other if the Lions have called yet about availability  to play this weekend.

Meirov needs to add Dorsey to the DBs on IR.

[Billy Hoyle]

The only front 7 defender who has played every game this season is Jack Campbell.


Ongoing joke among men (and some women) of all ages is asking each other if the Lions have called yet about availability  to play this weekend.

Meirov needs to add Dorsey to the DBs on IR.

I have an two ACLs I'm not using and am happy to give one to McNeil, who has been the MVP of the D since Hutch went down.

[Jockey]

The only front 7 defender who has played every game this season is Jack Campbell.


Ongoing joke among men (and some women) of all ages is asking each other if the Lions have called yet about availability  to play this weekend.

Meirov needs to add Dorsey to the DBs on IR.

The only front 7 defender who has played every game this season is Jack Campbell.


Ongoing joke among men (and some women) of all ages is asking each other if the Lions have called yet about availability  to play this weekend.

Meirov needs to add Dorsey to the DBs on IR.

Now Montgomery is done for the year. Good while it lasted, but they will be a contender next year.

Maybe the turf?

[tower912]

Now Montgomery is done for the year. Good while it lasted, but they will be a contender next year.

Maybe the turf?

Dodds asked that.  Detroit put in the new turf in 2023.

So, as best as I can remember...
Hutchinson, Anzalone, Dorsey, broken bones making tackles.
Davis, broken jaw making tackle.  Broken hand jamming St. Brown at practice
Reeves-Maybin, neck.
Davenport, triceps.
Peko, Cominsky, pecs.
Melifonwu, foot in training camp, finger now.
McNeill and Montgomery, roll ups in piles.

Possible turf related, Barnes, Rodriguez, Wingo.

So, possibly A factor.   Not clearly THE factor.


I will stick with this year's manifestation of the curse.    And look for Campbell to go for everything.

[The Sultan]

If Dodds asked about it, it's probably a terrible take.

[tower912]

If Dodds asked about it, it's probably a terrible take.

Not only did he ask about it, he committed to the bit.

[The Sultan]

Not only did he ask about it, he committed to the bit.

Of course he did.

[BM1090]

Allen wins it but it's been stated here that Goff isn't even a candidate for MVP. He's clearly #2 - IMO that qualifies as a candidate.

I'd bet a decent amount he doesn't finish top two in voting. But he's definitely a candidate and has had a great year.

[Jay Bee]

SKOL!

[tower912]

SKOL!

Likely.

[Uncle Rico]

Likely.

Wonder if this is the year that Vikings fans have a Super Bowl that doesn't involve the Packers losing in the post-season.  That's all they've had for 40+ years now

[Uncle Rico]

Williams needs A LOT of work in the pocket.  Does not see the field at all after his primary read is taken away

[Jockey]

The Bears coaching staff is brutal.

4th and 1 and they call a play behind a rookie tackle who hasn't played.

[Uncle Rico]

The Bears coaching staff is brutal.

4th and 1 and they call a play behind a rookie tackle who hasn't played.

The NFL should contract the Bears franchise and open up bidding for an expansion franchise

[forgetful]

Dodds asked that.  Detroit put in the new turf in 2023.

So, as best as I can remember...
Hutchinson, Anzalone, Dorsey, broken bones making tackles.
Davis, broken jaw making tackle.  Broken hand jamming St. Brown at practice
Reeves-Maybin, neck.
Davenport, triceps.
Peko, Cominsky, pecs.
Melifonwu, foot in training camp, finger now.
McNeill and Montgomery, roll ups in piles.

Possible turf related, Barnes, Rodriguez, Wingo.

So, possibly A factor.  Not clearly THE factor.


I will stick with this year's manifestation of the curse.    And look for Campbell to go for everything.

Most of those are all injuries that are more likely when steroids are abused...just saying.