2023-24 NBA Thread

[MuggsyB]

Im surprised you think Shaka is a fool

I didn't say that.  I was talking about the NBA game but do think there's no reason to never take a mid-ramge J if it's wide open.  Assuming you are capable.  The guys I listed all take some of those shots and it elevates their game. 

[MuggsyB]

Gobert is offensively inept. Scared when he gets the ball. And cant guard Jokic.

They might as well just throw in Garza

Stick with Reid?

[MuggsyB]

Jokic not only has superb footwork, he knows how to use his weight to dislodge his defender.  He's deceptively quick for his size.  He's listed at 284 lbs but I'm guessing he's closer to 305 lbs. He's a very large individual. 

[PGsHeroes32]

Stick with Reid?

Had 3 fouls

That first half was every wolves player panic driving for wild shots, wild offensive fouls and wild turn overs.

Kinda wild they are only down 6 at half and Ant was poor

[MuggsyB]

Had 3 fouls

That first half was every wolves player panic driving for wild shots, wild offensive fouls and wild turn overs.

Kinda wild they are only down 6 at half and Ant was poor

Both he and Murray are struggling.  I guess Finch moved Rudy to the help defender role. 

[MuggsyB]

Wow.  That was freaking sick by da Joker. 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I didn't say that.  I was talking about the NBA game but do think there's no reason to never take a mid-ramge J if it's wide open.  Assuming you are capable.  The guys I listed all take some of those shots and it elevates their game.

If you're talking just the NBA then my 99.5% was inaccurate. I was talking NBA, college, international, g-league, etc. Even limiting it to the NBA (the best players in the world), it's still a minority of players who can use the mid-range effectively. Most would be better driving to the hoop or working to get a better shot. A select few are good enough in the mid-range that an open long two may as well be a layup.

There's a reason those shots are wide open.

[lawdog77]

I didn't say that.  I was talking about the NBA game but do think there's no reason to never take a mid-ramge J if it's wide open.  Assuming you are capable.  The guys I listed all take some of those shots and it elevates their game.

Lebron's shot map from Rookie year compared to 2023

[tower912]

LeBron's shot chart looks like it is giving the mid-range jumper the middle finger.

[MuggsyB]

He still takes some.  SGA was 12/16 last game.

I'm not sure how you guard Jokic. 

[lawdog77]

He still takes some.  SGA was 12/16 last game.

I'm not sure how you guard Jokic.

Many players still take "some". That's what the defense is giving them, since it's the least effective shot. I would think you would understand that.

[MuggsyB]

Many players still take "some". That's what the defense is giving them, since it's the least effective shot. I would think you would understand that.

But if you can knock that shot down it helps.  That's all I'm saying LD. 

[MuggsyB]

Is Jokic the most skilled offensive player ever? 

[Uncle Rico]

Is Jokic the most skilled offensive player ever?

No

[MuggsyB]

No

He doesn't have the blow by speed but other than that can do everything.  He's sort of a combo of  a heavier Hakeem and Nash. Bro was ridiculous last night.   

[tower912]

Great player.  3 time MVP, has a ring.  Arrived with little fanfare.  Has been all about steady improvement and thinking the game.   7 footer initiating offense from the high post.    Denver has been smart enough to build around him and not just run the same sets as everyone else.

I don't know where he fits in the pantheon and I don't care.   I enjoy watching him now.    Just like I enjoy watching Brunson in the playoffs for a ridiculously shorthanded Knicks team.   

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

He still takes some.  SGA was 12/16 last game.

From mid-range? No. He was 9/14 (still very good). But even there you can tell the influence of the death of mid-range. SGA only took two mid-range shots longer than 17 feet (and missed both). 7 of his makes were within 15 feet (FT length) and 4 of them were within 12 feet. It's still about getting as close to the basket as you can (unless you're shooting a 3).

[Spotcheck Billy]

Based on your own search history eh?

It was multiple Norton AV pop-up warnings except we don't run that on our system. No Symantec search history etc.

[tower912]

Boston moves on.

[MuggsyB]

Terrible start for Minny.  Wake the F up or the result will be death. 

[tower912]

Somebody has to lose.

[PGsHeroes32]

Terrible start for Minny.  Wake the F up or the result will be death.

Would you say they are awake?

[Uncle Rico]

Terrible start for Minny.  Wake the F up or the result will be death.

Greatest overreaction in scoop history.

[The Sultan]

Greatest overreaction in scoop history.

IOW pretty run of the mill for Muggs

[Uncle Rico]

IOW pretty run of the mill for Muggs

I dunno, the death call was pretty extreme less than 3 minutes into the game being down only 7