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2023-24 NBA Thread

Started by Uncle Rico, June 27, 2023, 10:42:28 AM

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MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 15, 2024, 08:08:14 AM
With the defenders and the fade away? Probably a couple.

From that exact spot as a jump shot? Quite a few.

LOL.

4everwarriors

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2024, 08:06:45 AM
The Bucks have their probs but that was a ridiculous game winner by Lillard.  How many Scoopers could make that shot in an open gym with 100 attempts?



Mugster, for $45 mil/year, I'd like ta have da chance ta learn ta make dat shot, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

MuggsyB

Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 15, 2024, 09:17:31 AM


Mugster, for $45 mil/year, I'd like ta have da chance ta learn ta make dat shot, aina?

That's a shot going  3/4 length of the floor, with a hockey and then jump step to his left, from about 32 feet?  Normal people who are good athletes can't get that ball to the rim in an open gym, let alone drain it.  Fluffy would not hit the rim.  :)

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2024, 10:32:05 AM
That's a shot going  3/4 length of the floor, with a hockey and then jump step to his left, from about 32 feet?  Normal people who are good athletes can't get that ball to the rim in an open gym, let alone drain it.  Fluffy would not hit the rim.  :)

Oh I would not. I just didn't know what you meant by "hit that shot." If you are talking about all of what he did all the way from the backcourt...no one would hit that except for luck.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

forgetful

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2024, 10:32:05 AM
That's a shot going  3/4 length of the floor, with a hockey and then jump step to his left, from about 32 feet?  Normal people who are good athletes can't get that ball to the rim in an open gym, let alone drain it.  Fluffy would not hit the rim.  :)

It was an impressive shot, but not that insane. He got a really good look from 32 feet. Most scoopers that are regular open gym players would easily hit the rim from there, the better shooters amongst them would not have a problem making 1 out of 100.

MU82

I think I'd have trouble hitting the rim if I tried to replicate that exact move. But I definitely could hit the rim pretty often just firing from that spot on the floor, and I'd probably make a few (by accident if nothing else). And at least a couple of the middle-schoolers I coach also could do this.

I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case for many other Scoopers, as I'm WELL past my basketball-playing prime (if I ever had one).

But that exact shot, with the sidestep and all that ... I'd probably rupture my Achilles and blow out my ACL just attempting it.
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forgetful

Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 11:09:33 AM
I think I'd have trouble hitting the rim if I tried to replicate that exact move. But I definitely could hit the rim pretty often just firing from that spot on the floor, and I'd probably make a few (by accident if nothing else). And at least a couple of the middle-schoolers I coach also could do this.

I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case for many other Scoopers, as I'm WELL past my basketball-playing prime (if I ever had one).

But that exact shot, with the sidestep and all that ... I'd probably rupture my Achilles and blow out my ACL just attempting it.

I'd want to take the version of me that was within 10 years of age of Lilliard to replicate it.

wadesworld

Just for perspective, I've always played pickup in middle school gyms since graduating from MU (a few random runs in high school, but you get the point). Those gyms are 20 feet shorter than NBA courts (and high school courts are 10 feet shorter).

The shot Dame took was maybe a step inside the half court line of most middle schools or YMCAs. He did it while side stepping and falling left.

The shot was ridiculous.

Standing still in an empty gym? Yes I can make that. Trying to replicate what he did? It'd be a prayer heave.

MuggsyB

I have trouble shooting the side-step left, especially from that distance.  Going vertical up the floor, with the  abrupt stop, and then the side-step makes that shot way harder.

BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2024, 08:11:11 AM
LOL.

I'd bet I could hit 20/100 from that spot in an open gym. As a side step I'd make some but less. As a step back? Nah.

MuggsyB

Quote from: BM1090 on January 15, 2024, 12:42:45 PM
I'd bet I could hit 20/100 from that spot in an open gym. As a side step I'd make some but less. As a step back? Nah.

20/100 from 32 feet?  Then you have some serious game.  I was an 87% free throw shooter and 38% from distance in hs and could not hit that shot going 3/4 court. 

Hidden User

That's where Ners left his feet for one of his dunks

4everwarriors

Quote from: MU82 on January 15, 2024, 11:09:33 AM
I think I'd have trouble hitting the rim if I tried to replicate that exact move. But I definitely could hit the rim pretty often just firing from that spot on the floor, and I'd probably make a few (by accident if nothing else). And at least a couple of the middle-schoolers I coach also could do this.

I'd be surprised if that wasn't the case for many other Scoopers, as I'm WELL past my basketball-playing prime (if I ever had one).

But that exact shot, with the sidestep and all that ... I'd probably rupture my Achilles and blow out my ACL just attempting it.





Even a broken clock is right twice a day, aina?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

BM1090

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 15, 2024, 01:01:53 PM
20/100 from 32 feet?  Then you have some serious game.  I was an 87% free throw shooter and 38% from distance in hs and could not hit that shot going 3/4 court.

Wide open? Nobody near me? Open gym? Yeah. Muscle memory would kick in after awhile. In a game? Hell no.

I didn't play in HS. Probably hit 46% of my threes in leagues I played in. I'm not very good at basketball. I just can shoot.

Spotcheck Billy

ESPN with an interesting article about the ramifications of players that cannot play in 65 games/season.

The league's rule, put in place in early October as part of the push to curb load management, states players will be all but certain to be ineligible for major individual awards -- Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year and All-NBA honors among them -- if they fail to play in at least 65 games.
OF THE PLAYERS selected to the three All-NBA teams last season, five of them -Giannis Antetokounmpo (63 games played), Stephen Curry (56), Jimmy Butler (64),  LeBron James (55) and Damian Lillard (58) -- would not have been eligible for the honors under the new rule.


The rule, therefore, would have also impacted the financial futures of several elite players.

Toronto Raptors forward Pascal Siakam, for example, finished ninth in All-NBA voting among forwards, behind a list that included Antetokounmpo, Butler and James. If the 65-game rule were in place last season, Siakam would have been one of the six forwards to qualify. With it would have come eligibility for a supermax contract extension this past summer.

wadesworld

Quote from: BM1090 on January 15, 2024, 08:17:29 PM
Wide open? Nobody near me? Open gym? Yeah. Muscle memory would kick in after awhile. In a game? Hell no.

I didn't play in HS. Probably hit 46% of my threes in leagues I played in. I'm not very good at basketball. I just can shoot.

Why in the world didn't you play in high school if you were shooting 46% from 3 in leagues?

wadesworld

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on January 16, 2024, 03:13:22 PM
ESPN with an interesting article about the ramifications of players that cannot play in 65 games/season.

The league's rule, put in place in early October as part of the push to curb load management, states players will be all but certain to be ineligible for major individual awards -- Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year and All-NBA honors among them -- if they fail to play in at least 65 games.
OF THE PLAYERS selected to the three All-NBA teams last season, five of them -Giannis Antetokounmpo (63 games played), Stephen Curry (56), Jimmy Butler (64),  LeBron James (55) and Damian Lillard (58) -- would not have been eligible for the honors under the new rule.


The rule, therefore, would have also impacted the financial futures of several elite players.

Toronto Raptors forward Pascal Siakam, for example, finished ninth in All-NBA voting among forwards, behind a list that included Antetokounmpo, Butler and James. If the 65-game rule were in place last season, Siakam would have been one of the six forwards to qualify. With it would have come eligibility for a supermax contract extension this past summer.

Sure, but if the rule was in place the players in front of Siakam probably play in more games.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: wadesworld on January 16, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Why in the world didn't you play in high school if you were shooting 46% from 3 in leagues?

Do high schools have Nerf basketball teams?

cheebs09

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 16, 2024, 03:56:57 PM
Do high schools have Nerf basketball teams?

I've always assumed that's how Ners dunked.

BM1090

#1319
Quote from: wadesworld on January 16, 2024, 03:48:21 PM
Why in the world didn't you play in high school if you were shooting 46% from 3 in leagues?

I'm just barely over 5'7 and at age 16 I was probably 130 lbs. I was good enough where I probably could have played my senior year, but at that point I would have been so far behind everyone conceptually that I didn't think it was worth it. And it was no guarantee that I would have made the team.

Also, baseball was essentially in training for 75% of the year and that was the sport where I could get playing time for a good team.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: BM1090 on January 15, 2024, 08:17:29 PM
Wide open? Nobody near me? Open gym? Yeah. Muscle memory would kick in after awhile. In a game? Hell no.

I didn't play in HS. Probably hit 46% of my threes in leagues I played in. I'm not very good at basketball. I just can shoot.

I was similar. I could never dribble for sh it so all ive ever been able to do is shoot. But ive always been very good at it. When I was super young in like 4th and 5th grade only game my team lost I played for the other team because at that young age no one else knew how to shoot a lick.

I was into other sports way more so never tried to get any better.

I can go a year without touching a ball and walk into a gym and win a shooting contest or contribute shooting in a standard pick up game. Only other thing I do even decently is rebound for my average size which I think is due to instincts from playing other sports.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I was a way better basketball player relative to my age at 25 and even 35 than I was at 15. At 15 I was too scrawny and awkward. Haven't played in over a decade now because the knees are shot.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

MuggsyB

WTH happened to the Bucks yesterday?  Is Giannis hurt?

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 18, 2024, 08:07:59 AM
WTH happened to the Bucks yesterday?  Is Giannis hurt?

He had diarrhea
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MUfan12

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 17, 2024, 12:02:19 PM
I was a way better basketball player relative to my age at 25 and even 35 than I was at 15. At 15 I was too scrawny and awkward. Haven't played in over a decade now because the knees are shot.

Same. Only conditioning is worse, but I use the old man game to counter that.