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2023-24 NBA Thread

Started by Uncle Rico, June 27, 2023, 10:42:28 AM

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WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 31, 2023, 03:54:53 PM

It's part career management, but a larger part is that 82 games is a long damn season and you need to be ready for the playoffs.
I think that also supports my position.

If Jordan managed his work load like players today, LeBron may still be chasing the scoring title. I think you could question Jordan's priority of playing 100% in every game possible even if he was not 100%.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 31, 2023, 04:52:43 PM
I think that also supports my position.

If Jordan managed his work load like players today, LeBron may still be chasing the scoring title. I think you could question Jordan's priority of playing 100% in every game possible even if he was not 100%.

Agreed.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on August 31, 2023, 04:52:43 PM
I think that also supports my position.

If Jordan managed his work load like players today, LeBron may still be chasing the scoring title. I think you could question Jordan's priority of playing 100% in every game possible even if he was not 100%.

Could question or could not question?

MuggsyB

Don't ever forget how Lebron played in the 2011 Finals. 

MuggsyB

Terrible half of basketball for Team USA.  Their half court offense looks awful.  No ball movement whatsoever, all iso garbage.  They will need to pick it up to beat the better teams and the coaches must draw up better offensive sets.  Move the freaking rock. 

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 31, 2023, 03:54:53 PM

It's part career management, but a larger part is that 82 games is a long damn season and you need to be ready for the playoffs.

Jordan excelled in the playoffs despite playing in every regular-season game.

But I don't doubt that it is a sound reason for load management today, and I wouldn't argue that Jordan could have benefited from it, too.

I think one problem in all of these comparison-type discussions is that it's difficult to compare any player to Jordan, period.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on September 01, 2023, 08:45:15 AM
I think one problem in all of these comparison-type discussions is that it's difficult to compare any player to Jordan, period.
Well there is that.

MuggsyB

Team USA struggling early vs Lithuania. 

MuggsyB

Wow just wow.

31-12 at the end of 1Q.  Lithuania getting anything they want offensively while team USA is playing mickey-mouse, undisciplined, iso ball.   Time to wake-up before it's too late. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 03, 2023, 08:01:57 AM
Wow just wow.

31-12 at the end of 1Q.  Lithuania getting anything they want offensively while team USA is playing mickey-mouse, undisciplined, iso ball.   Time to wake-up before it's too late.

We don't have our best coach. Spoelstra or Jay Wright please. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 03, 2023, 08:15:26 AM
We don't have our best coach. Spoelstra or Jay Wright please.

Ya.....I'm glad you made this point Hutch.  What the H are they doing from a coaching standpoint on both ends of the floor?  It seems to me it's iso on one end and ball pressure on tbe other.  They literally allowed 12 wide open threes and rarely move the rock via the pass offensively. 

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 03, 2023, 08:35:58 AM
Ya.....I'm glad you made this point Hutch.  What the H are they doing from a coaching standpoint on both ends of the floor?  It seems to me it's iso on one end and ball pressure on tbe other.  They literally allowed 12 wide open threes and rarely move the rock via the pass offensively.

And of course 9 of those 12 open threes were made. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 03, 2023, 08:45:18 AM
And of course 9 of those 12 open threes were made.

Nice little run for us to start the 2H.  Let's go now.  At least they're moving  and screening more off the ball

HutchwasClutch

Very good 3Q start so we'll see about today. A win today won't change my opinion we have better options than Kerr for our national coach. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 03, 2023, 08:47:24 AM
Very good 3Q start so we'll see about today. A win today won't change my opinion we have better options than Kerr for our national coach.

Agreed Hutch. 

MuggsyB

#315
Other than Jonas V is there a Lithuanian in the NBA?  I know Bradzekis had a cup of coffee.

MuggsyB

WTH is up with this line-up Hutch?  Smh.

MuggsyB


JWags85

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 03, 2023, 08:57:11 AM
Other than Jonas V is there a Lithuanian in the NBA?  I know Bradzekis had a cup of coffee.

Currently no, but a bunch played recently.

Kuzminskas played for the Knicks. Motiejunas played for a couple of teams up until a year or two ago. Sirvydis played 2-3 years for the Pistons until last year.  Jokubaitais was a Thunder pick like 2 years ago they've been stashing for a bit

MuggsyB

Quote from: JWags85 on September 03, 2023, 09:40:55 AM
Currently no, but a bunch played recently.

Kuzminskas played for the Knicks. Motiejunas played for a couple of teams up until a year or two ago. Sirvydis played 2-3 years for the Pistons until last year.  Jokubaitais was a Thunder pick like 2 years ago they've been stashing for a bit

And yet we finish the 1Q down 31-12 and lose the game.  So sad. 

lawdog77

This is what happens when we send our B (or C) team.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: MuggsyB on September 03, 2023, 09:42:07 AM
And yet we finish the 1Q down 31-12 and lose the game.  So sad.

Missed last quarter today. But it's so true.  Our guys are entirely current NBA guys, rising or established stars.  Ridiculous to lose to anyone.

HutchwasClutch

Quote from: lawdog77 on September 03, 2023, 09:44:31 AM
This is what happens when we send our B (or C) team.

Give me a break. Then Lithuania is about an M team of NBA talent. 

lawdog77

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 03, 2023, 09:47:58 AM
Give me a break. Then Lithuania is about an M team of NBA talent.
Except for Edwards and Brunson, the talent difference between the US team and these other teams is minimal. Especially when many of these other teams have played together for years.

MuggsyB

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on September 03, 2023, 09:47:58 AM
Give me a break. Then Lithuania is about an M team of NBA talent.

Hutch,

Would this be similar to MU losing to Cardinal Stritch or am I being hyperbolic?  I can't see any rational argument of being down 31-12 to begin tbe game.