2023-24 NBA Thread

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Very hard to see Riley and Spoelstra giving up Bam IMHO - as he's almost the perfect kind of "Heat Culture" player. But I've been amazed at some of the deals that have been made, so who knows.

You might be right. But their lack of a consistent outside scorer has been a problem. And I think they want Herro in that role...but IDK. I just don't know if the Blazers are going to want that contract in return. 

[wadesworld]

Bam would not be in the package. He's the reason Lillard wants to go to Miami.

Lillard would be the outside scorer. The Heat would need to try to center the package around Herro. They have to hope the Blazers think more highly of him than most teams do.

[MU82]

You might be right. But their lack of a consistent outside scorer has been a problem. And I think they want Herro in that role...but IDK. I just don't know if the Blazers are going to want that contract in return.

Lillard's career 3-point percentage is not far behind Herro's, and it was virtually identical the last 4 seasons (since Herro has been in the league). So he basically replaces Herro as a consistent outside scorer while also doing numerous things Herro doesn't.

I agree that Herro's contract wouldn't be very attractive for Portland, but they almost surely will have to take back a "bad" contract or two in any Lillard trade.

And if Miami traded Bam instead of Herro so they'd have more outside shooting, they'd create another hole. Bam is uniquely talented, far more difficult to replace than a shooter IMHO.

It's definitely gonna be interesting to see where Lillard lands.

[MuggsyB]

Bam would not be in the package. He's the reason Lillard wants to go to Miami.

Lillard would be the outside scorer. The Heat would need to try to center the package around Herro. They have to hope the Blazers think more highly of him than most teams do.

If Portland makes a Miami deal with no Bam the GM there should be terminated. 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

If Portland makes a Miami deal with no Bam the GM there should be terminated. 

🙄🙄🙄

[JWags85]

I think given the contracts over the last few days, Herro's deal doesn't look all that terrible and unappealing anymore.  Back to back years of 20+PPG/5/4  on 44/38/90 shooting splits.

Jerami Grant just got $32MM a year with similar scoring numbers, but has lower rebounding totals than Herro despite being much bigger, not to mention assists.

Cam Johnson just got 4 years at $27 per and Herro has outperformed him statistically.

And others.  Which I think makes him easier to move.  I think Herro, Martin, and picks will be the core of it and I think there is no way its not a multiple team deal.

[MU82]

I think given the contracts over the last few days, Herro's deal doesn't look all that terrible and unappealing anymore.  Back to back years of 20+PPG/5/4  on 44/38/90 shooting splits.

Jerami Grant just got $32MM a year with similar scoring numbers, but has lower rebounding totals than Herro despite being much bigger, not to mention assists.

Cam Johnson just got 4 years at $27 per and Herro has outperformed him statistically.

And others.  Which I think makes him easier to move.  I think Herro, Martin, and picks will be the core of it and I think there is no way its not a multiple team deal.

Good points, Wags.

In other news ...

Miles Bridges signed his $7.9 million qualifying offer to play for the Hornets next season. He had turned down a 4-year, $60M offer before the 2021-22 season and the decision seemed to have paid off, as he had a great year and was seen to be in line for at least $20M annually. But then he beat up his girlfriend in front of their kids, missed all last season, and was suspended by the league (he'll miss the first 10 games of the upcoming season). He'll be an unrestricted FA after this season, so if he plays well and stays out of trouble, he'll get a huge contract.

[rocket surgeon]

moriah mills is being offered up to $million dollars or more for sex tape of she and zion...she's a "porn star"??  yikes!! 

[MU82]

4 years, 52 m is a joke for Reaves based on what other guys are signing for.  The kid should absolutely be insulted and leave the Lakers.

You can breathe a sigh of relief, Muggs. Reaves got $6M more than that to stay with the Lakers - 4 years, $58M.

Meanwhile, a note that might (or might not) interest those who love (or hate) Tyler Herro ...

(From the Columbia State) -- Austin Herro, brother of Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro, announced Sunday he will be a preferred walk-on for South Carolina. Herro had an offer from Cal Poly but decided to walk on to play for Lamont Paris and the Gamecocks.

The 6-foot-2 guard averaged 14.8 points, 6.4 rebounds and 4.6 assists for Whitnall High School in Wisconsin last season. Paris recruited Tyler Herro when he was an assistant at Wisconsin and he committed to the Badgers. But when Paris left to become head coach at Chattanooga, Tyler Herro ended up at Kentucky.

[MuggsyB]

You can breathe a sigh of relief, Muggs. Reaves got $6M more than that to stay with the Lakers - 4 years, $58M.

Meanwhile, a note that might (or might not) interest those who love (or hate) Tyler Herro ...

(From the Columbia State) -- Austin Herro, brother of Miami Heat guard Tyler Herro, announced Sunday he will be a preferred walk-on for South Carolina. Herro had an offer from Cal Poly but decided to walk on to play for Lamont Paris and the Gamecocks.

The 6-foot-2 guard averaged 14.8 points, 6.4 rebounds and 4.6 assists for Whitnall High School in Wisconsin last season. Paris recruited Tyler Herro when he was an assistant at Wisconsin and he committed to the Badgers. But when Paris left to become head coach at Chattanooga, Tyler Herro ended up at Kentucky.

Clearly Reaves wanted to stay with the Lakers because he could have gotten significantly more coin. 

[WhiteTrash]

Clearly Reaves wanted to stay with the Lakers because he could have gotten significantly more coin.

Not sure about that. I think he was a RFA, so the Lakers could only offer so much. Another team could have offered more but be tied up with him until the Lakers matched or not. Most expected the Lakers to match any offer so I don't think anyone wasted their time offering him. Big loss for Reaves, but that's how the system works. He may be an unhappy camper in LA.

[MU82]

Reaves has had most of one good season as an NBA player. He parlayed that, and good timing, into $58M. I'm not gonna worry about his financial future.

If he really thought he had a big payday coming, he could have "bet on himself" by signing a short-term contract. He wanted the security of a longer deal. Could he have maybe wrung a little more money out of the Lakers or another team by playing hardball? Maybe, but he obviously was satisfied with $14.5M a year. Can't say I blame him.

[MuggsyB]

Reaves has had most of one good season as an NBA player. He parlayed that, and good timing, into $58M. I'm not gonna worry about his financial future.

If he really thought he had a big payday coming, he could have "bet on himself" by signing a short-term contract. He wanted the security of a longer deal. Could he have maybe wrung a little more money out of the Lakers or another team by playing hardball? Maybe, but he obviously was satisfied with $14.5M a year. Can't say I blame him.

He's had one good season out of two as an undrafted rookie.

[MU82]

He's had one good season out of two as an undrafted rookie.

Yessir ... and he's getting paid handsomely for it -- or rather for his potential to be much better down the road.

[MuggsyB]

Yessir ... and he's getting paid handsomely for it -- or rather for his potential to be much better down the road.

Ig you look at the contracts others have gotten the Lakers got him cheap. Strus and Brown aren't better players.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Kind of cool to see...

https://twitter.com/marquettembb/status/1675989712564092929?s=46&t=EPgIwcjzegj_0y0aa83fHA

[pbiflyer]

I think given the contracts over the last few days, Herro's deal doesn't look all that terrible and unappealing anymore.  Back to back years of 20+PPG/5/4  on 44/38/90 shooting splits.

Jerami Grant just got $32MM a year with similar scoring numbers, but has lower rebounding totals than Herro despite being much bigger, not to mention assists.

Cam Johnson just got 4 years at $27 per and Herro has outperformed him statistically.

And others.  Which I think makes him easier to move.  I think Herro, Martin, and picks will be the core of it and I think there is no way its not a multiple team deal.

As a Heat fan, I don't understand the sudden hate on Herro. Unless it is Riley paying 3D chess, making it look like a team shouldn't want him, keeping him while getting Dame.

New intros for next year for the Grizzlies.

[MuggsyB]

Beasley to the Bucks.  He's a capable spot shooter.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Beasley to the Bucks.  He's a capable spot shooter.

Led the league in triples off the bench.  Seems to fill a need.  Also signed Brooks brother

[tower912]

Mavs trade for Grant Williams.   OMax gets moved down the depth chart.

[wadesworld]

Good Lord the Warriors wanted out of that Poole contract.  Having to include Baldwin, a first, and a second just to get Chris Paul back?  Wow.

[PGsHeroes32]

I think given the contracts over the last few days, Herro's deal doesn't look all that terrible and unappealing anymore.  Back to back years of 20+PPG/5/4  on 44/38/90 shooting splits.

Jerami Grant just got $32MM a year with similar scoring numbers, but has lower rebounding totals than Herro despite being much bigger, not to mention assists.

Cam Johnson just got 4 years at $27 per and Herro has outperformed him statistically.

And others.  Which I think makes him easier to move.  I think Herro, Martin, and picks will be the core of it and I think there is no way its not a multiple team deal.

Grant also has to be like 6-7 years older than Herro too.

[Jockey]

Good Lord the Warriors wanted out of that Poole contract.  Having to include Baldwin, a first, and a second just to get Chris Paul back?  Wow.

They wanted CP because of Kuminga and Moody. They weren't going to develop being on the floor with Curry, Klay, and Poole.

Weird that trading for a 39 year old is about the future.

[wadesworld]

Sounds like at least one team isn't interested in touching Herro's contract.

[Skatastrophy]

Sounds like at least one team isn't interested in touching Herro's contract.

Herro to the Nets is what I've seen