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Author Topic: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?  (Read 7241 times)

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2023, 02:29:54 PM »
Yeah, but it doesn't not not mean that it won't not be not better, either.
This statement has me all tied up in nots

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2023, 02:45:16 PM »
I don't know if it is defensible.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2023, 02:47:15 PM »
I'm most excited to see the development of our Frosh and do think Jop is more than capable of stepping it up.  Let's also not forget the potential for Leviathan seasons for Oso, Kam, and Tyko.  I think this team will be just fine and highly, highly, motivated. 

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2023, 03:08:51 PM »
I’m afraid Marquette will be in a lot of trap games now

That’s my biggest fear as well Rico.;)

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2023, 04:28:33 PM »
Omax going pro is a very good thing for MU Program. We have depth who will get more opportunities. Signals to recruits they are in a good place with their basketball career if they choose MU.

Also can't look at O Max leaving in a vacuum, there are going to be approximately 60-70 ( depending on how many foreign are drafted) players  leaving other college programs.

 
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2023, 10:07:12 PM »
Yeah, but it doesn't not not mean that it won't not be not better, either.
won't not?

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2023, 07:30:12 AM »
Yeah, but it doesn't not not mean that it won't not be not better, either.

This statement has me all tied up in nots

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2023, 09:03:39 AM »
Yeah, but it doesn't not not mean that it won't not be not better, either.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2023, 10:50:15 AM »
I'm most excited to see the development of our Frosh and do think Jop is more than capable of stepping it up. 



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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2023, 03:39:41 PM »

The best thing about freshmen is they become sophomores.

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Oddly enough, during a fair amount of Al's career Freshmen were not eligible to play. I think that came into effect in 1972.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2023, 06:18:18 PM »
Very good article.  Thanks for your work.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2023, 08:00:33 PM »
Oddly enough, during a fair amount of Al's career Freshmen were not eligible to play. I think that came into effect in 1972.
Tatum was the first player eligible to play as a freshman.
Al originally said the best thing about sophomores was they became juniors. Changed when freshmen became eligible.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2023, 08:49:31 PM »
Shaka is looking for the right replacement.  It's a loss but we will be fine and may get a hammer addition.
He is? Where? From his current roster? Yes.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2023, 06:19:39 PM »
Is there a current list of eligible transfers? My guess is that Shaka and crew knew about O-Max quite some time ago, and (hopefully) have a plan. An Ed Morrow-type would fit the mold.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2023, 06:32:21 PM »
I can't imagine Ed Morrow playing in Shaka's system.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2023, 06:42:57 PM »
I can't imagine Ed Morrow playing in Shaka's system.
Senior year of Ed Morrow was worse than Freshman year Chase Ross.

I'd rather just play small than have a Morrow.

We spent an entire year with Jae as our center. We can be play without Oso for 15 mpg.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2023, 07:09:28 PM »
Senior year of Ed Morrow was worse than Freshman year Chase Ross.

I'd rather just play small than have a Morrow.

We spent an entire year with Jae as our center. We can be play without Oso for 15 mpg.

What, Ross was the garbage standard on the team this past season.  Wtf?

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2023, 07:12:30 PM »
What, Ross was the garbage standard on the team this past season.  Wtf?

I had a tough time telling if that was meant to be a dis or compliment to Chase. I settled on "Chase last year was already better than senior year Morrow." While the wording could've been better, I imagine it was meant to be positive for Chase.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2023, 07:16:26 PM »
I had a tough time telling if that was meant to be a dis or compliment to Chase. I settled on "Chase last year was already better than senior year Morrow." While the wording could've been better, I imagine it was meant to be positive for Chase.

Comparing anything to Morrow, especially his last year when he stunk and then quit on the team I sure read as a negative.  And a cheap shot on a freshman who played well and showed a lot of upside when given the opportunity.   Plus was trusted by Shaka all season, no matter the opponent or game situation. 
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2023, 07:28:02 PM »
His point was that a freshman Chase was better than a senior Morrow, so you might as well go small than take a Morrow-like transfer.

I agree.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2023, 07:28:13 PM »
Ed was one of those guys that peaked early and then slowly regressed as his college career went on. He was worth taking a shot on, but it didn't work out; it happens. And yes, he quit his senior year, but he had fallen to third on the depth chart at C.

From a team perspective, his quitting had no detrimental effect. From an individual standpoint, I totally get why he chose to focus on his future rather than basketball where he had a less than marginal impact.
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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #46 on: May 28, 2023, 08:11:51 PM »
What, Ross was the garbage standard on the team this past season.  Wtf?

If i said Sean or Ben Gold. I would have gotten into some weird debate between an Okay center who quit on his team and two guys who played below average as freshmen.


I didn't want to do that.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #47 on: May 28, 2023, 08:19:12 PM »
Ed was one of those guys that peaked early and then slowly regressed as his college career went on. He was worth taking a shot on, but it didn't work out; it happens. And yes, he quit his senior year, but he had fallen to third on the depth chart at C.

From a team perspective, his quitting had no detrimental effect. From an individual standpoint, I totally get why he chose to focus on his future rather than basketball where he had a less than marginal impact.
What you are forgetting here were Ed’s injuries while at MU. Those injuries really affected his play. He certainly was not a major player in any event, but those injuries did seriously impact whatever impact he may have had otherwise. But, he certainly would not fit the Shaka mold.

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #48 on: May 28, 2023, 08:37:38 PM »
Good for OMAX if he makes it in the league, but I remain constant in my view that he was the weakest link among the starters last year.  Tough to replace his length but considering that he spent 40% of his time on his butt, that length was often not available for use. 

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Re: [Paint Touches] What does OMax' decision mean for MU?
« Reply #49 on: May 28, 2023, 08:56:19 PM »
Good for OMAX if he makes it in the league, but I remain constant in my view that he was the weakest link among the starters last year.

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